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Xindi-Reptilian Contortrix Escort- Underrated?
sovereign010
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Looking through the ship stats, I cannot help but wonder if there must be something I'm missing regarding this ship.
It is one of only a small handful of ships that boasts both 5 forward weapon mounts and 5 tactical consoles; the others are the Scimitar & the Kumari, and until DR arrives and brings the Mat'Ha it remains the only option for Klingon players if they want a ship that offers both, AFAIK.
In comparing the Xindi ship with the 3 others, the only downsides to the ship that I can see is that its hull is weaker than all but the Kumari and has the lowest crew complement.
The upsides are as follows:
The BOFF layout looks pretty strong as well, boasting a Lt Cmdr Eng station which boosts survivability, and the Lt. Univ station which can boost either damage or durability even further.
All told, I have to wonder just why it costs only a fifth of what the JHAS costs on the exchange- is there any reason I should not buy one?
It is one of only a small handful of ships that boasts both 5 forward weapon mounts and 5 tactical consoles; the others are the Scimitar & the Kumari, and until DR arrives and brings the Mat'Ha it remains the only option for Klingon players if they want a ship that offers both, AFAIK.
In comparing the Xindi ship with the 3 others, the only downsides to the ship that I can see is that its hull is weaker than all but the Kumari and has the lowest crew complement.
The upsides are as follows:
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It ties with the Scimitar for highest shield modifier
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Has the highest impulse modifier
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Has the highest turn rate
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Matches the others for weapons power (save for the Scim which has less)
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Matches console layout (Scim trades an eng for sci)
The BOFF layout looks pretty strong as well, boasting a Lt Cmdr Eng station which boosts survivability, and the Lt. Univ station which can boost either damage or durability even further.
All told, I have to wonder just why it costs only a fifth of what the JHAS costs on the exchange- is there any reason I should not buy one?
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"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Last week Elachi escorts went for 70-75M and now it's 85-88 minimum.
If there is one reason why it doesn't sell then it may just be that it's lacking a fan base for RP.
Enterprise was not the biggest ST hit series.
Yeah you may well be on to something there. I was recently looking at the potential a Hirogen Hunter escort has at T5-U and wondering why Im not seeing more of these as well.
Could as you say be a simple lack of fanbase. That and in the sake of the Hunter it is a fugly little thing, not complaining though as I have one
I think I may just invest in the Contortrix though as I like the stats and general look of the ship.
"If this will be our end, then I will have them make SUCH an end as to be worthy of rememberance! Out of torpedos you say?! Find me the ferengi!".
Therefore it is always available, if you have enough lobi or find someone who does and is willing to make a trade. It's pricedin a similar range to all other lobi ships that cost 800 lobi.
Other lockbox ships won from keys, whilst technically always available (discontinued boxes can still be bought on the exchange) tend to be priced a little lower when the market is full of them or they arent very good (elachi s'cort or hirogen hunter) and will tend to be higher in price for older ships whose boxes don't offer much else in terms of reward so people don't open many of them (cardassian/ferengi/temporal). Good ships with recent/current boxes that offer good alternate prizes will be priced in midrange (narcine/nicor).
JHAS and Bulwark are totally seperate again, only being available when special promotions are running and therefore most scarce.
Special ship prices tends to be more closely correlated to availability rather than ability...
All that said ship prices have been swinging wildly recently due to DR and the T5-U/T6 debacle. Lack of info (or indeed info given that's scary like T6-fleet) means that people are pretty unsure as to how current gen lockboxes will perform post-X2 and how they will stack up against T6.
...#LLAP...
I think the reason is.. they are sooo small, that most of the times you will miss em... :P, i honestly dont like excessive small ships, i like to "see" my ship in its full detail without the need to see my enemies in "the big screen".
Iconic is not a bad word PWE.
For me the iconic ship is the Sovereign, so one of my alts flys the assault cruiser refit
It is certainly a fantastic escort. Mine is a joy to fly.
Just I think at this point people may be starting to get a little fed up of lockbox and lobi ships, and their value is generally increasing, putting it further out of reach for most players.
That plus I think it was somewhat overshadowed by the Narcine, which is far more popular, and also an excellent ship (for different reasons).
This ship is deadly in PVP. Just imagine a Scimitar with a turn rate of 17 and a impulse of .22.
Never thought I would say this but I think the Scimitar should be buffed to mirror its size and onscreen atributes. NO, I don't mean give it 46 torpedo tube launchers. What I mean is that its stats should be rethinked. Not to be made better or worse. Just diffrent.
One thing I think should be diffrent on ships and this is for every ship in the game. The special abilitys ships have through thier consoles should NOT take up a console spot. This destroys most ship's specials because people don't equip them cause of space. The scimitar should be able fire cloaked. Just make it a built in ability thats like 10 seconds every 60. The Galaxy should not have to have a console to seperate. It goes for everyship and ships that don't have a special console should have a specail ability added. Its one of the worst play mechanics added to the game.
If you're wondering why it's priced so low compared to some ships (a few of which IMO are overrated in today's game), is supply & demand.
For the Xindi Escort's case, it's a Lobi ship and available immediately, provided you have the Lobi to buy it. This is a far different thing compared to a Lockbox ship where you either keep opening Lockboxes in the faint hope of getting the ship, or paying a high exchange fee because the availability is so random and more limited. Lockbox ships *tend* to go higher in price when the Lockbox the ship belongs to goes out of circulation. Which goes back to the Lobi ships again. You could buy a Lobi ship, say, 6 months after the Lockbox it originated from stops circulating. But the list of Lobi ships will always be there.
Quite correct on this also. Hirogen Escort has great stats and handling. But like other Hirogen ships, it looks like a Garbage Barge.
That's the thing with special abilities needing consoles to function, especially sets of them. 5 tac slots for DPS boosts, the set takes up another 3, leaving just 2 for survivability boosts. Given how many lockboxes you need to open to afford a lobi ship it's still extortionate.
I finally caved in and shelled out the ECs for the Xindi vessel- I haven't worked up the guts to actually open it yet! :eek:
You forgot Primary and Secondary Shielding. WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME IF SCIMITAR COULD EQUIP 2 SHIELDS!
One of the Consoles for the Scimitar already has that effect.
Yeah, forgot to mention that. The secondary shields have come in handy on more than one occasion
^ this.
Also: T6. T6 Fleet. T6 Lockbox coming.
Some T5U are even powerful than the first run of T6 ships but nevertheless only stopgap and will wane quickly.