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daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
I need to know you won't just plop the Delta Quadrant down in front of us and just abandon it over time.

I need to know there will be new things over time to make it interesting, maybe some new story or new weapon types. anything that has content worth investing in.

I want to see the DQ flow with rich stories and tidbits, not just plopped down for us to forget about over time.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need to know you won't just plop the Delta Quadrant down in front of us and just abandon it over time.

    I need to know there will be new things over time to make it interesting, maybe some new story or new weapon types. anything that has content worth investing in.

    I want to see the DQ flow with rich stories and tidbits, not just plopped down for us to forget about over time.

    The correct word is "want" not "need". You need oxygen, you need shelter, you want to k ow future plans.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Delta quadrant is huge so there's hope in that but here's the kicker...some trekkies say we haven't explored the entire alpha quadrant yet...

    So I'm going with...we go where the iconians "are"

    Next expansion could be mirror universe to get their iconians to help us defeat our iconians...
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Well, Delta rising takes place in all the areas between Season 3 episode 17, and Seasons 7 episode 2. which is like 53% of the Voyager show, and Seasons 1-3 that it doesn't cover are all in about two of the smaller "sector" zones, as it is the rest of Season 7, though that could be reduced down to one most likely.
    Explain the Kazon, then. Voyager left them behind at the midpoint of season 2.
    As for the rest of the Alpha and Beta quads, if you look on the star trek Star Charts maps, the rest of known space is pretty empty, we know of line one world in the entire Breen confederacy, one world in the tholian assembly, and then there's a handful of small Fed colonies in the areas south of the playable game area, but 99% of the known worlds in the Fed and Kilngon Empire are in in-game map already.
    Or not.
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  • tucana66tucana66 Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
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    Next expansion could be mirror universe to get their iconians to help us defeat our iconians...
    Brilliant idea, dahminus.
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  • corelogikcorelogik Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need to know you won't just plop the Delta Quadrant down in front of us and just abandon it over time.

    I need to know there will be new things over time to make it interesting, maybe some new story or new weapon types. anything that has content worth investing in.

    I want to see the DQ flow with rich stories and tidbits, not just plopped down for us to forget about over time.

    Let me know how your demand to know the future plans of a company works out for you,...
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  • dpsloss88dpsloss88 Member Posts: 765 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    STO seem fairly stable, and so far they havent squeezed us for money or given out pay to win items. Will that change now? Maybe. Companies change, directors and devs come and go. Executives get greedy.

    Why do you need an answer before Delta Rising launches? I plan to wait a few months before I make any judgements. Hold off your purchases till then. I waited a year before getting Lifetime, but considering how many games I lose interest in it was wise to wait and see.
  • neppakyoneppakyo Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Dev: For a reasonable price of $50, you can have a small 5 minute episode to explore the jeffries tubes on voyager! Get a cute neelix dwarf pet for a reward!

    Thats how I equate cyrptic and content.
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need to know you won't just plop the Delta Quadrant down in front of us and just abandon it over time.

    I need to know there will be new things over time to make it interesting, maybe some new story or new weapon types. anything that has content worth investing in.

    I want to see the DQ flow with rich stories and tidbits, not just plopped down for us to forget about over time.

    I need to know how, and why.
    I need to know who, (where's Q?)

    I need to know, which, and what.
    I need to know when they'll kill the bots.

    I want to know where and when.
    I want to know there, and then.

    I hope to know, how and why.
    I hope to know why iconians lie.


    I mean to know, here and now.
    I mean to know why cryptics shy.


    I feel, I know, I don't get what I want.
    I feel, I know, its cryptics wont's.

    I know that I feel your pain.
    I know that cryptics out to gain.


    I know that there is no fix.
    I know that you have to take the hits.

    I know that good or bad.
    I know that the game makes me glad.
  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Explain the Kazon, then. Voyager left them behind at the midpoint of season 2.


    Or not.


    The Kazon border ended around 200 light years from where we "start" in 2373, so obviously it isn't that hard to make a "small" trip and bump into us, especially with 37 years of potential border expansion.

    Also that map is a bit dubious, they have the Gamma Orionis block quite a bit off, although the in-game map doesn't help, and the Star Charts are a bit shaky on it (which is the basis for the in-game map), that one is quite a bit off (best estimates would place Cestus six sectors "south" of Qo'Nos).

    But anyway, we still have quite a bit of Delta Quadrant to explore beyond what will be added in game with the expansion, even from the canon stuff (1000 light years "north", 400 "south")
  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Well, Delta rising takes place in all the areas between Season 3 episode 17, and Seasons 7 episode 2. which is like 53% of the Voyager show, and Seasons 1-3 that it doesn't cover are all in about two of the smaller "sector" zones, as it is the rest of Season 7, though that could be reduced down to one most likely.

    As for the rest of the Alpha and Beta quads, if you look on the star trek Star Charts maps, the rest of known space is pretty empty, we know of line one world in the entire Breen confederacy, one world in the tholian assembly, and then there's a handful of small Fed colonies in the areas south of the playable game area, but 99% of the known worlds in the Fed and Kilngon Empire are in in-game map already.

    Really, all they have to do now is finish off the federation space that we cant get to yet, and then do a gamma quad expansion, which wouldn't be that large as even less of the Gamma quad is known then the Delta quad, and then they would be done.



    they said they had story content planned for it up until at least the next anniversary event.

    There's like 100 billion star systems in this galaxy. You just can't "finish off a quadrant". Not only STO but the Star Trek IP itself also got an incredible huge space to grow.
    And not talking about shenanigans like the Iconians who are definitely out of this galaxy.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    never mind the delta quadrant what about the gamma quadrant, that has been rarely explored even in the tv show and now apart from one mission "Operation Gamma" and a few species we have seen nothing of the gamma quadrant so far, how about having some content there perhaps.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

     I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.

  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need to know you won't just plop the Delta Quadrant down in front of us and just abandon it over time.

    I need to know there will be new things over time to make it interesting, maybe some new story or new weapon types. anything that has content worth investing in.

    I want to see the DQ flow with rich stories and tidbits, not just plopped down for us to forget about over time.


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  • ashrod63ashrod63 Member Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Welcome to Gamma Risings map

    https://i.imgur.com/a94d4j1.jpg

    This is the entirety of known Gamma Qaud space according to the Star Trek Star Charts book.

    Its easily doable in the 6 sectors across two sector blocks map style that DR is using, and it wouldn't even have to cut out anything, unlike how DR cuts out nearly 3 seasons worth of stuff before the Nekrit expanse, and a seasons worth of content after the Yontasa expanse.

    Just depends what scale they do it on, at Alpha/Beta scale it would be a vast number, at Delta scale though it would be 15 sectors, which is certainly achievable (I could see them leaving it at the 1000 scale to match the book though, and break it up over several updates to get their moneys worth out).
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    never mind the delta quadrant what about the gamma quadrant, that has been rarely explored even in the tv show and now apart from one mission "Operation Gamma" and a few species we have seen nothing of the gamma quadrant so far, how about having some content there perhaps.
    While I do not disagree with you, Cryptic asked us what series we wanted to see more of and we voted on it in a Poll on the forum. Voyager won, thus we are going to the Delta Quadrant in this Expansion Pack.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • jtmarshjtmarsh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I need to know you won't just plop the Delta Quadrant down in front of us and just abandon it over time.

    I need to know there will be new things over time to make it interesting, maybe some new story or new weapon types. anything that has content worth investing in.

    I want to see the DQ flow with rich stories and tidbits, not just plopped down for us to forget about over time.

    Don't worry!! This wont be like KDF!!
    Wont be like ROM!!
    Wont be like tribble breeding!
    It for sure wont be like the second deflector!!
    Or ship interior games!
    Or frequent featured episodes
    Or remastered episodes

    No No this will be better!!! :)
  • realmalizerealmalize Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Also, that map of yours is TERRIBLY wrong, I dont know who made it, but they need to look at the star chart maps more.

    Sheliak space is WAY far away from fed space, not right next to Cardassia., The Tholian assembly is in the wrong spot, as is the Gorn Hegemony, and the metron consortium is missing entirely.


    You need to get out more, Star Charts isn't the "official" map...STO's map only loosely follows Star Charts and has made some notable differences. In fact Star Charts doesn't map a number of key episode locations...it's just a map "for fun" and not really any attempt to reconcile Trek events to reality, or STO, or the Expanded Universe.

    Otherwise, you need to look more into the RL Sector Map project - and maybe you'll understand why it looks so "wrong" to you -- and perhaps, you'll open your mind to a wider Trek universe.
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  • realmalizerealmalize Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You certainly do have some very strongly held opinions.

    All I can tell you is Star Charts wasn't enough. When I make a foundry mission I want to have a place, I want it to be in a reasonably sensible universe.

    In short: it. must. make. sense.

    Mandel, et al. make maps that are beautiful works of art...I honestly love to look at them -- however, they are inaccurate to real life, they are inaccurate to a consistent universe...and they are not canon by a long shot. I applaud them for figuring out a way to make more $$ from the Trek franchise, and I applaud the beauty of their work.

    But when I pick a place for a foundry mission, I want to direct the player to a door which is close to the real life star I have chosen...Star Charts won't tell me that, and as I point out -- what it does tell me won't mesh with the real star orientations. So when I chose Tau 6 Eridani, I want that door to be as near as possible where Tau 6 Eridani really would be on the STO Map.

    As for Star Charts showing all the systems of the Federation, as you assert, no...no it doesn't. There are far less than 500 TOS-era worlds shown there, and to casually dismiss this or that place as unimportant -- what if someone wants to use it for a Foundry mission? Most of Trek takes place away from the important - asides from an unusual fetish for Earth and Vulcan.

    In short, and this is the last I'll say here, because I'm not going to argue with you on the topic -- It's a great big universe out there, why limit yourself?
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