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Levelless Items will STOP at 50 - WTF?
jackal1701apw
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So on the latest Tribble Release Notes it is stated that levelless Lobi items (i.e MK Infinity gear and consoles) will stop raising in stats once a player hits 50.
They outline that there will be an alternate method to upgrade these items (probably connected to the standard 12->14 upgrade system that is slowly being introduced to the test server piece by piece...)
I have a MASSIVE issue with this.
We have paid for levelless items for the VERY reason that they will level up with us and this should continue to be the case beyond 50 up to 60.
I will not PAY AGAIN for an item to upgrade it past mk 12, when it is supposed to be a Mk-Infinity item that continues to upgrade as my character ranks up.
This is the case for Lobi store ground and space gear, the galors spiral disruptors, the various quad cannons within the game and a WHOLE HOST of other items with Mk-Infinity.
I will pay for my Mk XII to upgrade (in what looks like a long time and expensive dilithium gated system), but I think having to pay for something that should auto-upgrade, and something that WE BOUGHT IN THE KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD AUTOUPGRADE is plain wrong.
Stop trying to nickel and dime us. We will leave and you will all be out of jobs.
They outline that there will be an alternate method to upgrade these items (probably connected to the standard 12->14 upgrade system that is slowly being introduced to the test server piece by piece...)
I have a MASSIVE issue with this.
We have paid for levelless items for the VERY reason that they will level up with us and this should continue to be the case beyond 50 up to 60.
I will not PAY AGAIN for an item to upgrade it past mk 12, when it is supposed to be a Mk-Infinity item that continues to upgrade as my character ranks up.
This is the case for Lobi store ground and space gear, the galors spiral disruptors, the various quad cannons within the game and a WHOLE HOST of other items with Mk-Infinity.
I will pay for my Mk XII to upgrade (in what looks like a long time and expensive dilithium gated system), but I think having to pay for something that should auto-upgrade, and something that WE BOUGHT IN THE KNOWLEDGE IT WOULD AUTOUPGRADE is plain wrong.
Stop trying to nickel and dime us. We will leave and you will all be out of jobs.
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Two dimes vs four nickles kind of thing.
(...) More information will be available soon explaining how these items can still be viable for level 51 60 content. (...)
...so I hope they will find a fair way for this...I spent more than 5000 lobos in the shop..!
A little history: It will all depend on our actions and not what we say. I remember back in the D. Stahl days they tried to take dilitium away from the STFs..people nearly completely stopped playing them and 2 days later they changed it back. The force is with us!:)
That said, i also totally agree that it makes NO sense that they don't just keep scaling past 50. Not that it annoys me really, it's a minor inconvenience at worst.
I don't see a problem, unless this is another entitlement thread.
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It's asking us to sink more time/dilithium upgrading things that we could reasonably have expected at time of purchase to never require upgrading. And these things are ALL EXPENSIVE. Whether they are lobi store or Z-Store purchase/unlocks.
It is nickel and diming the playerbase AT IT'S WORST.
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I have spent less on this game since the Free-to-Play change than I did playing World of W*rCraft for one year. The game itself is a free download, and technically (at least for now), you don't actually need any money to play (and even compete) in the game. Spending money is like pressing the "easy" button.
Don't want to level up at a regular pace? Hit the easy button and buy a skill point bonus.
Don't want to use the stock ships? Interested in a cheeky reusable console? Hit the easy button and buy a levelling-tiered ship.
Don't like the selection of costumes? Hit that easy button, baby!
You can buy Mirror Universe ships to mimic Tier 5 ships, turn Dilithium into Zen point, and buy Master Keys from other players in exchange for Energy Credits. The fact that levelless items are being phased out is fine by me. Levelless items are behind the curve anyway.
Captaincy, Excelsior-Class U.S.S. Bianca Beauchamp NCC-99947-F
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They haven't even said there will BE an upgrade. They just said they'll be "useful" For all we know that means "hey, they will still fit on your ship slot, lol."
They just lost a Delta pack sale from me. Greedy.
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I'm unsettled by this "news," myself, but they haven't even talked about how upgrades will work. The full system isn't on Tribble yet, so any guesses are pure conjecture. I also point out that Lobi ships are upgraded for free... while ground gear is significantly less expensive than a ship, it's not hard to think that the devs will treat all Lobi stuff the same... WE JUST DON'T KNOW YET.
Unless these tokens open the door to increasing the rarity of said items... taking a blue (or purple) item to UV isn't a bad thought.
Ive not payed for anything in this game for 11 mths or more n im not going to open my wallet again to ive had a year were they dont nerf stuff ive payed for or worked had to get.
Okay, this is a freak out thread then because it's just speculation.
It's been said before in multiple places: don't buy anything with Zen or any big EC purchase until after DR releases.
If anything, we should be able to craft additional mods to them, but not be forced to get double dipped on them.
This is absurd.
this is what is in the patch notes.
"All are now Purple quality.
Weapons may have gained one or two additional [Dmg], [CrtH] or [CrtD] mods in order to bring them up to Purple quality levels.
Some weapons have benefited from this conversion more than others.
All leveless Lobi Store Ground and Space Equipment will now stop scaling once the player reaches level 50.
More information will be available soon explaining how these items can bstill be viable for level 51 – 60 content."
Many of the items are getting upgraded to purple quality for 50 are getting one or two extra modifiers. so thats good, a straight up buff, no problems there. they do not say this is a buff to compensate it to 60.
they then say more information will be available from 51-60. thats it. the information on what happens beyond 50 has not been released. we dont know if there are technical reasons or if it will be free or anything. reacting badly to something you know nothing about is overreacting.
But we DO know something about it; they wont level past 50.
The point is, we shouldn't have to LIFT A FINGER for them - they should level with us. End of story.
I'll give you an example. They have mentioned that level 51-60 work a little differently to the previous levels. So if there is a technical reason why all items have to do this as the levelness does not work from 51-60, and we get a free claimable token you not prepared to LIFT A FINGER to slot it?
They said the levels will work differently in terms of points and leveling...never because of a technical reason.
There is nothing keeping them from leveling. Nothing. Certainly nothing they have stated so far as a technical reason.
Free? This is Expansion 2: Nickle and Dimed in the Delta Quadrant. We're going to be double-dipped to upgrade every damn thing.
You missed the point. the fact they chose to change the level system beyond 50 may have created the technical reason that affects the already created leveless items. if items are designed to do A and you change the system to do B it may have created a conflict.
you can not claim to know how the items are coded into this game with certainly. you simply dont know and are overeating to a lack of information. I'm only giving you a hypothetical scenario. there could be others.
the fact they have not stated a technical reason does not mean one exists and the only information we have is that more information is coming, so wait and see.
except all the free content, and 5 guest actor VO, the upgrade to lockbox and lobi ships, rep gear and everything else thats free?
Why should people trust level-scaling items ever again?
Don't worry people like that are the ones who insist they have to buy everything even if they bankrupt themselves, they have no idea how to save or spend money properly, so they get angry and type things like that.
I for one am grateful we don't have to pay for the entire expansion like you do with SWTOR
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And what about my priceless [CtrD]x3 Mk XII Phased Biomatter Weapons? Will they scale too?