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Engineering Team vs Aux to SIF on a High Auxillery build.
dknight0001
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A2S = Auxillery Power to Structural Integrity Field
ET = Engineering Team
ST = Science Team
TSS = Transfer Shield Strength
On an Escort, Cruiser or even a Sci ship with low Auxillery power the Engineering Team is the better option.
Since coming back and finding that Tac Team, Sci Team and Eng Team no longer shared cooldowns I've swapped my almost ever present A2S over to Engineering Team, and TSS to ST. I think ST is better then TSS especially on a ship with a lot of Sci abilities because the ST buffs your Grav Wells and Drains as well as provide a rather good shield heal, and like TSS it's usable on allies too.
But what if your ship is running 130 Auxillery Power are you better off keeping the faster although even at this power level weaker A2S over ET2 or does the slightly better but double the cooldown Engineering Team win out? In my experience ET2 appears to be worth ~1000 Hull over A2S.
Thoughts, Suggestions and Advice appreciated.
The ships are a Tac Vetsa with Aux Cannons, a LRSV (Voyager) with Torpedoes, and an Atrox Carrier. And this character would be looking at moving into a T6 Sci ship or FT5U versions of those ships. Can't make that decision until stats are known.
A2S = Auxillery Power to Structural Integrity Field
ET = Engineering Team
ST = Science Team
TSS = Transfer Shield Strength
On an Escort, Cruiser or even a Sci ship with low Auxillery power the Engineering Team is the better option.
Since coming back and finding that Tac Team, Sci Team and Eng Team no longer shared cooldowns I've swapped my almost ever present A2S over to Engineering Team, and TSS to ST. I think ST is better then TSS especially on a ship with a lot of Sci abilities because the ST buffs your Grav Wells and Drains as well as provide a rather good shield heal, and like TSS it's usable on allies too.
But what if your ship is running 130 Auxillery Power are you better off keeping the faster although even at this power level weaker A2S over ET2 or does the slightly better but double the cooldown Engineering Team win out? In my experience ET2 appears to be worth ~1000 Hull over A2S.
Thoughts, Suggestions and Advice appreciated.
The ships are a Tac Vetsa with Aux Cannons, a LRSV (Voyager) with Torpedoes, and an Atrox Carrier. And this character would be looking at moving into a T6 Sci ship or FT5U versions of those ships. Can't make that decision until stats are known.
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As far as I know, TSS and A2SIF offer some benefits and advantages over the simple click heals of ET and ST. Both TSS and A2SIF will augment your survivability rating for the time that they are active, wheras ST and ET are just simply heals. If you were to acquire ET and ST as ways to dissolve any debuffs placed on you, they would be golden.
The underlying problem with comparing the two, is that they are inherently not comparable. Both of these sets of abilities do different things, and each have checks and balances to even each other out in different situations.
Let's explore that statement a bit with the difference between TSS and ST:
Say there is some ship X who fires upon you with 30000 DPS. A hefty sum to be sure, but what do the survivability options look like then?
Advantages of Transfer Shield Strength: Let's say your TSS can boost shield resistance by 10% and heals 12k damage over its duration. As soon as the opponent fires at you for the full activation of the TSS, you basically get 45000 more HP back due to the extra shield resistance. So every 45 seconds, you get the equivalent of 57000 HP in heals. Science Team at 14k shield refill every 30 seconds can only manage 21000 HP worth of effective healing in the same time frame.
Say now there is some ship X who places a Subnucleonic Beam upon you dealing 8000 DPS.
Advantages of Science Team: 14k Heal of Science team gives you an instant Subnucleonic Beam clear and 14k HP on top of that. Transfer Shield Strength only offers a total of 24k healing in that situation, and you have to deal with increased ability cooldowns which could cripple your ability to be effective. Assuming that Subnucleonic beam just set your TSS to 150% cooldown, now the effective healing drops to a paltry 9600 HP every 45 seconds and the ST sits as the ruler of the roost at 21k, and your ship is unhampered by debuffs.
So my advice would be to consider whether or not you value general damage survivability or versatility. If it is the former, I would go for the A2SIF and TSS. If it is the latter, choose ET and ST.
Having double checked the Wiki (although not the tooltip) much like TT provides a Tac cleanse and a buff so do both ET & ST.
TSS & ST are a much harder debate opo98. The ET vs A2SIF with high Aux is my main interest here.
I've been leaning towards A2SIF over ET, but if anybody would like to weigh in I will listen.
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Ouch, I'd probably run double eptX and let my op hazard emitters be my hull refiller.
But if that's the case, aux2sif1 and the eptX of your choice
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I got a Fed engineer that does not habe Aux2SIF because I am using Aux2Bat and DEM. However, for my KDF engineer I am currently using Aux2SIF instead of Aux2Bat. I may change things around once I decide to slot Doffs. Regardless, both ships have Aux power below 50 because I primarily focus on weapons. Before using Aux2SIF I try to balance my power distribution so that Aux has about a 62 power level, but only if I have time to do that. If I need to repair my hull immediately, then I do not bother to balance my power.
I have a Fed Sci toon that relies solely on Aux2SIF because the mirror science vessel retrofit only has a Lt. Cmdr engineering station. The Boff has EPTs1, EPTw2 and of course Aux2SIF2. When I focus power on weapons the Aux level is 62, when balanced it is 97. Again, if I need to immediately repair the hull I do not bother balancing the power.
Preference for use is DOFFed ET and if I still need heal then I hit HE. If I still need something, DOFFed ET will be back in a moment. AtSIF is if I'm going to die.
You know double EPtX might be a better choice despite having to wait for the long cooldown of HE.
Nice to get good feedback I never considered ditching an Engineering Based Hull Heal.
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This is pretty much my thinking as well.