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hpgibbs
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I prefer using phaser myself. I use either elite fleet, advanced Andorian fleet, recently phased bio matter and biomolecular as well. Phaser is my damage type choice. More on this later
Let's start with the damage availability
Antiproton (only if you can make the critical system work. If you can't, won't be top)
True top: Plasma. Primarily because of the embassy console and the Romulan set.
Second: Polaron. Jem'hadar set
Third: disruptor
Fourth: antiproton
Fifth: phaser
Sixth: tetryon
Phaser teams for PvP are some of the strongest teams, so many shots going off, the phaser proc will take their toll, and are extremely effective. Though with the new research and development release, I'm pretty sure phaser will be made obsolete. I reference this primarily because of the engineering console that adds a +45 damage resistance rating, and with that, and other consoles of similar types, it'll make phaser useless for PvP.
What I'm not particularly understanding from the developers is the malice towards phaser, and being, perhaps the most canon of all weapons, the weapon which most people tend to avoid, just doesn't make sense.
Here's my suggestion: phasers are intended to be a tool, though more shown with hand weapons, on a larger scale, why are ship weapons all that different? Throughout the show, phasers are able to be re modulated and completely changed, yet still be considered a phaser, though on a different frequency. In these shows, the frequency was changed to provide different severities of damage, punching through Borg defenses, getting through enemy shields better and so on. Let's have phasers, while staying on a target longer, have increased shield penetration, up to a point. Let's say +5 shield pen per 5 seconds, stacks 7 times. It'll make phaser more deadly, more feared and let's be frank, effective.
I've not been one to really care about the phaser proc, it's simply not that effective in PvE, can be in PvP, though it seems to be more based on luck. I simply like phasers. Call me canon or what have you, it's my choice.
For those of those complaining that the phaser proc doesn't last long enough max out your subspace decompiler skill.
What do you guys think?
Let's start with the damage availability
Antiproton (only if you can make the critical system work. If you can't, won't be top)
True top: Plasma. Primarily because of the embassy console and the Romulan set.
Second: Polaron. Jem'hadar set
Third: disruptor
Fourth: antiproton
Fifth: phaser
Sixth: tetryon
Phaser teams for PvP are some of the strongest teams, so many shots going off, the phaser proc will take their toll, and are extremely effective. Though with the new research and development release, I'm pretty sure phaser will be made obsolete. I reference this primarily because of the engineering console that adds a +45 damage resistance rating, and with that, and other consoles of similar types, it'll make phaser useless for PvP.
What I'm not particularly understanding from the developers is the malice towards phaser, and being, perhaps the most canon of all weapons, the weapon which most people tend to avoid, just doesn't make sense.
Here's my suggestion: phasers are intended to be a tool, though more shown with hand weapons, on a larger scale, why are ship weapons all that different? Throughout the show, phasers are able to be re modulated and completely changed, yet still be considered a phaser, though on a different frequency. In these shows, the frequency was changed to provide different severities of damage, punching through Borg defenses, getting through enemy shields better and so on. Let's have phasers, while staying on a target longer, have increased shield penetration, up to a point. Let's say +5 shield pen per 5 seconds, stacks 7 times. It'll make phaser more deadly, more feared and let's be frank, effective.
I've not been one to really care about the phaser proc, it's simply not that effective in PvE, can be in PvP, though it seems to be more based on luck. I simply like phasers. Call me canon or what have you, it's my choice.
For those of those complaining that the phaser proc doesn't last long enough max out your subspace decompiler skill.
What do you guys think?
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Kirks Prot
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Thanks for the tip regarding Subspace Decompiler. Perhaps I will devote 3 points to that skill when I retrain Fed Engineer skills. That should increase the disable time by 45%.
That's how I feel about phasers too. My weapon of choice. And I like the sound that the Andorian fleet phasers make too. also it's kind of fun mixing phaser types, retro phasers, elite fleet, Andorian, biomolecular, and what not, looks like a rainbow build or skittle boat without the problems! It's fun for PvP to do that, blow someone up and post in zone, "Taste the rainbow!"
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The thing is, people will be shying away from phasers because they will be wanting something that won't be as armored against. There are better options, let's be honest.
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Kirks Prot
Yeah, I was thinking about using different phaser weapons once I start the Undine rep on my Fed Engineer toon. Waiting for one of my KDF to finish the Undine rep to get the sponsorship token. Gonna install the different phasers on a mirror cruiser and call it the "U.S.S. Skittles Special".
Neutroniums give resistance to all types, not just Phaser, and it's the most widely used armor in PvP. In other words, every damage type is already evenly armored against - some slightly more than others with some rep gear etc. But due to Diminishing Returns, that difference is often minimal.
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Min maxers perhaps.
And not just the 14 year old ones.
However, I don't think you'll find that phasers disappear (except in CC)
Their iconic status means someone will slot them.
And, if it was all about the 'better' options you'd never see anything except plasma, AP and maybe disruptors.
So you don't actually disagree that the proc is practically worthless on phasers?
The only reason why phasers have become atleast competitive in the last few month is the season 9 phaser/disruptor set...before that, AP and rom. disruptors outperformed phasers and basicaly all the other types by 10-15% (possibly more)
The proc mechanic is so random, that if it wasn't there, you would see no difference in the perfomance of your ship...not directly, not parsed...nada.
Does this imbalance matter? No, absolutely not since any content in PVE is simply faceroll and Exp. 2 won't change that.
And PVP has bigger balance issues than a single weapon type.
There were already a handfull of good proposals for a proc change, like an additional ACC mod, or only disabling weapon proc.
anyway, this issue goes way back, and in all those time it didn't even come up that ofeten or even once on the numerous podcasts.
The devs may be aware that the community wishes for a more useful phaser proc, but it seems unless you don't confront Al Rivera directly in an interview with it, you don't even get a statement out of them. And once there is a statement, they get a ****storm of insults thrown back at them.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
It's as random as any other proc.
It just doesn't show up easily on parsers because its not DPS related.
As far as i can tell, it works in PvE but there's no icon or anything to tell you.
The enemy just stops flying/shooting/having shields up for a second or so and then its back on.
In PvP, if not defended against, it can win a battle.
But it will never show up on parsers and, without a far more detailed battle stat system, you'll never be able to look at a list of facts and say 'there it is'.
I see a little ring saying "offline" trigger sometimes on borg gates,.... I don't think npc ships or cubes show it though. With the cubes I think the "icon" is so far inside the cube, that it can't be seen from outside.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
AFAIK thats not a phaser proc but the icon for one of the Jemmie consoles. Forget which one.
Actually, normal phasers are kinda ****e in many PvE situations because the NPCs have either an artificial immunity to the proc or such a high resistance to the proc that their offline status is too short to take advantage of.
Odd, since I don't have any Jemmy consoles on my ship,... I'm pretty sure it's due to Phaser proc since I was firing at it when it happened, and then the gate stopped shooting for a few seconds,... I could be wrong though. I'm usually too busy destroying borg stuff to worry about whether my proc has triggered or not.
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
I'm not 100% myself, but I dont recall seeing it in runs where there wasnt a Jemmy ship on the team.
In my experience though. The shields are the most important part of a ship. Without it theres not too much standing between you and a kill. So it makes a lot of sense to go with weapons types that eat shields/go through shields/or have a chance of knocking them offline. There would have to be substantial evidence to make me believe my weapon of choice is no longer useful.
Except damage type has nothing to do with armor...unless someone in PvP is equipping a specific type of armor...which everyone pretty much uses neutronium/rcs fleet consoles.
Armor has nothing at all to do with the proc...proccing shields has nothing to do with armor...proccing aux doesn't proccing...well you get my drift?
I fail to see your point...the armor has higher resistances against phasers...assuming it's neutronium...it also has higher resistance against AP...higher resistance against plasma....higher resistance against dis...well I hope you see where I'm going here again.
I will agree, it is pretty awesome
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Kirks Prot
Also, yes there is a symbol when a phaser proc lands, it also brings up another symbol, showing a phaser immunity for 15secs., after the initial proc which is why phaser procs, are in need of some better changes.
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