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Suggestion for a way to handle Mirror ships in Delta Rising
leviathan99
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Mirror ships were a semi-popular lockbox item and people would like to upgrade them.
I was thinking of how to make them more flexible and interesting for Delta Rising so that people can go back to using them. This idea turns them inside out a bit.
Here's what I would offer:
Mirror Universe Hull Plating - 200 Lobi. (Offered in Fed, KDF, and Romulan variants.)
Unlocks the Mirror Universe hull pattern and ISS Prefix for all of your standard faction ships.
Mirror Universe Bridge Officers - Science and Tactical Variants, Fed and KDF versions - 300 Lobi each.
This may pose a slight technical challenge but would mirror the effect of the old bridge officer seating changes of Mirror ships.
Mirror Science Bridge Officers have space tactical abilities. Mirror Tactical Bridge Officers have space science abilities. Each bridge officer is unique. A special restriction exists so that these bridge officers may not sit at Lt. Commander or Commander stations with a bit of flavor text about regulations barring them from serving in a senior role aboard Fed/KDF/Romulan ships, limiting them to Lt. stations or lower. Special trait.
Going off the Xindi BO, these bridge officers unlock a Mirror Borasqu' or Mirror Odyssey ground costume. Literally mirrored in the case of the Odyssey. Also includes new Terran and Klingon-Cardassian Alliance insignia/badges.
Mirror Universe Special Consoles - Lockbox drop, replacing the old mirror ships in lockboxes.
Reflecting how the old mirror ships could use different console configurations, these are boxes which provide a same faction C-Store console but which are usable (and restricted to) a different ship than the normal version.
For example:
Mirror Universal - Nadion Saturation Bomb. Equippable only in an ADVANCED Escort.
Mirror Universal - Metreon Gas Canisters. Equippable only in a STAR Cruiser.
Mirror Universal - Quantum Field Focus Controller. Equippable ONLY in Deep Space Science Vessels.
The boxes containing these unusual consoles (not always a perfect mirror but they are whenever possible) replace T5 Mirror ships as lockbox prize drops.
I was thinking of how to make them more flexible and interesting for Delta Rising so that people can go back to using them. This idea turns them inside out a bit.
Here's what I would offer:
Mirror Universe Hull Plating - 200 Lobi. (Offered in Fed, KDF, and Romulan variants.)
Unlocks the Mirror Universe hull pattern and ISS Prefix for all of your standard faction ships.
Mirror Universe Bridge Officers - Science and Tactical Variants, Fed and KDF versions - 300 Lobi each.
This may pose a slight technical challenge but would mirror the effect of the old bridge officer seating changes of Mirror ships.
Mirror Science Bridge Officers have space tactical abilities. Mirror Tactical Bridge Officers have space science abilities. Each bridge officer is unique. A special restriction exists so that these bridge officers may not sit at Lt. Commander or Commander stations with a bit of flavor text about regulations barring them from serving in a senior role aboard Fed/KDF/Romulan ships, limiting them to Lt. stations or lower. Special trait.
Going off the Xindi BO, these bridge officers unlock a Mirror Borasqu' or Mirror Odyssey ground costume. Literally mirrored in the case of the Odyssey. Also includes new Terran and Klingon-Cardassian Alliance insignia/badges.
Mirror Universe Special Consoles - Lockbox drop, replacing the old mirror ships in lockboxes.
Reflecting how the old mirror ships could use different console configurations, these are boxes which provide a same faction C-Store console but which are usable (and restricted to) a different ship than the normal version.
For example:
Mirror Universal - Nadion Saturation Bomb. Equippable only in an ADVANCED Escort.
Mirror Universal - Metreon Gas Canisters. Equippable only in a STAR Cruiser.
Mirror Universal - Quantum Field Focus Controller. Equippable ONLY in Deep Space Science Vessels.
The boxes containing these unusual consoles (not always a perfect mirror but they are whenever possible) replace T5 Mirror ships as lockbox prize drops.
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However, if one were to get, say, the Mirror Metreon Gas Canisters and the the prime version, could they use both on a Mirror Star Cruiser?
And what happens to existing Mirror Ships?
In my own opinion, the mirror material unlock is a good idea.
However, the mirror boff idea sounds... odd. Only having tactical and science is also strange. Having eng varients too, with each category having 2 (one for each career). It could be exploited too, practically making ens and lt slots on every ship universal.
Obtaining the mirror boff layouts would actually work better with a boff customization option or something, which some people have suggested before. Give people the choices of the boff layouts from different varients of a selected ship.
For instance, a Fleet Advanced Escort could choose between the standard Advanced Escort boffs, the Fleet Advanced escort boffs, and the Mirror Patrol escort's boffs. Of course, ships that only have had one set up like the Avenger wouldn't have the option to change their boff layout.
Just some of my thoughts.
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The whole point of Mirror ships was cheap endgame-ish ships with slight variations from prime. 200 Lobi for the skin and 300 Lobi for the boff is more expensive than a straight up T5U upgrade or probably even a T6 ship which would have more stuff, so this idea is dead on arrival.
I would tweak the suggestion to change the Hull Plating to 500 ZEN. Further, you can already dress up a boff in a Mirror Uniform if you buy it, what you really want is ship customization which would be better accomplished with a Computer Core component for maximum flexibility instead of a bridge officer. That way it wouldn't be limited to just Mirror ships.
Quite a few of the Mirror ships have a superior Boff seating compared to the Prime version.
Preventing the upgrade of the Mirror ships also further devalues them, making them even less desired from the Lock Boxes.
Not that it'll happen.
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My point is that rather than maintain a different ship with a different BOff seating, you have special BOffs accomplish the same job and a costume/prefix unlock.
So in this case, having Science BOff who can only be slotted at Lt or lower Science stations but whose abilities are Engineering abilities accomplishes the same thing and would have side benefits like retaining your Mastery ranking or whatever.
I'm mainly suggesting that instead of having alternate SEATINGS and separate mirror ships in the 5U/6 tier, they instead have Mirror Universe BOs whose abilities come from a different profession than the one they're seated at.
So you have a Science BO in this case who sits at a Science station (but can only sit at a Lt or Ensign station) and provides Engineering powers while there.
So in this case, what you might have, streamlining the idea a bit, is this:
Mirror Science profession can use engineering or tactical abilities but NOT science abilities. You could effectively make Mirror Science a new profession that is a Tac/Eng hybrid.
Mirror Eng is a Tac/Sci hybrid with no Eng abilities.
Mirror Tac is a Sci/Eng hybrid.
This all echoes how the BO stations on the T5 MU ships differed from Prime versions but simply shifts the change to the BO instead of the seat.
If you make these, effectively, three new professions, their versions of powers can be tuned separately if devs needed to.