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T5-U upgrades - Potential LTS perk?
jexsamx
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Someone had to say it.
There's a golden opportunity here to placate LTS members, offering some value where up until now it's sort of lacked. LTS should get free upgrades on everything.
I wish I could pad this post out with more stuff but the benefits here are self-evident. LTS gets some value and your LTS members are happy. I understand the stipend could be put towards upgrade costs easily but that's beside the point.
There's a golden opportunity here to placate LTS members, offering some value where up until now it's sort of lacked. LTS should get free upgrades on everything.
I wish I could pad this post out with more stuff but the benefits here are self-evident. LTS gets some value and your LTS members are happy. I understand the stipend could be put towards upgrade costs easily but that's beside the point.
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yes.. they can be upgraded to 5u (10 chars)
Yes but the only advantage to it is the +1 console and that is only if you have the fleet version.
But one, the vet ships aren't an LTS bonus, but a 1000 Day Vet bonus. Different things. The vet ship upgrade benefit any and everyone who's got 1000 days subbed at least, which is fantastic. But LTS ponied up a lot for that status and other than instant vet reward access and some baubles, there's not many benefits (aside from the obvious now-till-the-servers-shut-down access).
And two, it wouldn't hurt Cryptic to acknowledge LTS players. This is just the quickest, easiest way I can think of for them to do that.
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sorry I have to disagree with you here, as a lifetime subscriber it is my opinion that everyone should get all their t5 ships upgraded for free.
its bad enough that anyone who has paid zen or faced a long hard grind to get a particular ship is now faced with the prospect that the ship they spent all that time or money on is now 2nd class, now to add insult to injury we find that some of these half way upgrades are actually going to cost us even more is absolutely disgusting.
I honestly cant see how cryptic can get away with scamming us like this.
cryptic you really need to rethink your policy here why not just introduce a nice easy repeatable special daily mission we can play where we get our ships upgraded for free one at a time, at least that will get everyone a free upgrade and it will get people playing the game which is what you want in the first place after all.
I really cant see how you can differentiate one ship from another, the dyson mega pack is I prime example here, we paid 10000zen for this pack that's no small amount in anyone's book, now we find that only 3 of the 9 ships will get the free upgrade is absolutely ridiculus.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
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--A free Retain Token
--A Free Ship Token
(Because those are Rank-Up Traditions)
--The Vet Ships should be Tier 6 because they have a substantial price tag on them. Lockbox Ships come for only EC at the Exchange. C-Store Ships are usually $25. Vet Ships cost in the hundreds.
Otherwise, I don't see Lifers needing anything else.
I think this would be plausible.
Or at least a T6 vet/LTS ship.. not a T5-U but a full on T6 ship
*nods* I thought it sounded reasonable. I suggested as much in the News Thread about either upgrading the current Vet Ship to T6 or having a different Vet Ship at T6 that unlocks at Level 60.
Well, perhaps an "Upgrade Token"? Upgrade one ship on each toon to a T5-U?
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I do not think that is the way that they are going to go, though. It sounds more akin to the way that Fleet Ships work.
I am ok with the idea ok giving a free t6 ship to lifers at lv60 but I still think all t5 ships should get the free upgrade.
it doesn't matter if you spent $5 or 500zen to $100 or 10000zen for a ship or bundle of ships they all cost money or hard grinding to get them and should all get a free upgrade.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Well, you do get 500 Free Zen per month. You could use it for an upgrade. I think that is the closest that you can realistically hope for.
you forget they still haven't fixed the price yet, they say "likely to be somewhere between $5 and $10", whats the betting that its more likely to be the higher quote then the lower.
for anyone with the dyson bundle you will be looking at a years and a halfs worth of zen to upgrade them all.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Nope, as I read it the vet ships get the +1 console, 10% shield & hitpoints mod and the Mastery traits.
Just like all T5-U ships get.
I think that here is the problem. Just guessing there vastly are more LTS than 1k day subbers (hell probably even more than 700d subbers) & a big deal probably from pre FTP days and/or LTS sales. Considering the amount a, say 800d, subber would have ponied up Cryptic would gain far more to make it a x00 days sub exclusive; with maybe reduced cost for LTS.
But with the way LTS has been promoted all hell would, rightfully, break loose then.
Which is very probably also why there is not 1100+ days stuff. Not enough ppl subbed that long. At that point the only gain they could probaby get would be through an LTS as reward for being subbed at 1100 days.
Thoose who thought ahead and saved up their stipend can upgrade all their toons ships in an instant. Thoose that didnt have to wait a couple of month until they can rise enough ZEN from the stipend.
But if you look at it long term you getting it for free.
My LTS has already paid itself off from the monthly stipend now. And basically everything is free from the point were the LTS has paid off.
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Wasting real money on upgrades to 'near' top tier doesn't seem like a wise investment decision for my small wallet.
Would you rather have 10 consoles on the base vet ship, like the tier 6 just without the extra boff power, or 11, also without the extra boff power, with the t5 fleet upgrade? IMO upgrading the base ship just is not worth it, but if you think it is that's ok too...
Tier 5 Fleet Excelsior upgraded to Tier 5U = Extortion Fee and 1000000 ZEN
You're wrong.
It's worse that that.
Only the FREE Dyson Science Destroyer (given as Q anniversary reward) gets the free upgrade.
All of us (myself included), that just purchased the 10k mega bundle all get shafted.
Oh, and that only upgrades it to the C-Store level anyway.
EDIT: If we have to pay to upgrade, then it should be Full T6 capability. I don't care about the Intel BOFF slots (well I do, but not terribly so), but I want the full mastery with trait unlock, and 13th BOFF ability. Then it's worth it.
+1 to the Free token, it's a LTS/Gold tradition.
EDIT2: At least make it a free *upgrade* token if not a full ship token. At least it softens the blow.
It's a bad idea to seperate Monthly Veterans from onetime paying veterans, so it's a no-go.
Lifers already get a special forum title and playable borg character over regular gold subscribers.
I'm happy with that.
Any new 'veteran' rewards should equally apply to gold subscribers.
Think about this:
Compare people, like myself, who have been a lifetime member since beta (4+years) with people who have been subscribed continuously (or close enough) for the same time period. Those monthly subscribers have contributed far more money on a subscription basis at that point than I. I don't think they should be penalized for that.
That said, like in my previous post, I wouldn't mind a gold perk like a free ship/upgrade token.
Since we're on the subject: how about a 2000 day vet reward, devs? Say a T6 veteran ship?
Some of us will be approaching that within a year.