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After a couple of years on and off trying to play the game and with an impending level cap raise (and difficulty rise along with it) I need some serious issues sorted out.
To put it simply, my ship feels useless. What sort of levels of DPS, shield levels etc. should I be looking at to do bog standard missions at Vice Admiral without facing certain destruction from a 3 pip ship (after a long, stretched out five minute battle that is inevitably always going to end the same way).
I'm not looking for particular examples, just a rough sanity check to see if it's me or the gear (because judging by other players in team missions I take part in they seem to be causing a lot more damage than I am, and without the back-up I feel rather useless which makes me feel I'm letting the team down a bit).
To put it simply, my ship feels useless. What sort of levels of DPS, shield levels etc. should I be looking at to do bog standard missions at Vice Admiral without facing certain destruction from a 3 pip ship (after a long, stretched out five minute battle that is inevitably always going to end the same way).
I'm not looking for particular examples, just a rough sanity check to see if it's me or the gear (because judging by other players in team missions I take part in they seem to be causing a lot more damage than I am, and without the back-up I feel rather useless which makes me feel I'm letting the team down a bit).
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Go here and show us what you got:
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/
(UFP) Ragnar
This.
To OP:
We can't give you a good advice, without knowing where you stand and what you want to acomplish.
As others have already replied, use the STO academy skill planner to provide your ship build, and possibly your skills and traits too so folks can provide some advice. It's not all about gear though, good piloting and timing can be very helpful too.
from personal experience the point where your ship actually starts feeling like its contributing and gets enjoyable is around 5k dps as it increases of course things get more interesting 10k+ dps is where things seem to get really fun
its not to hard really to get up around 5k either pretty much you want to use 1 energy type of weapon and as many tactical consoles buffing that energy type as you can get ideally 3-4, you also want to use 2 tactical ability's to buff the majority of weapons your using ie. beams (fire at will/overload), cannons (rapid fire/spread) I also like to run a torpedo and ability's for them but that's more a personal preference.
survivability you pretty much need hazard emitters and at least one other hull heal, shields at least 2 ways to heal em is also highly advised
ideally you want to have your weapon's and shield power as high as possible at all time's since more power to weapons = more damage, shields also function better at 75+ power.
range also factors in cannons are better at 5k and closer distance to target, not sure on the distance for beam's but they are still ok at a further distance.
Yeah, I am probably raining on some high DSP'ers game who wants to complete an eSTF in less than 5 minutes. But the most fun I had when doing eSTFs was when I was in group with DPS ranging between 2k to 6k. Yeah, we didn't set any records, but the possibility of being blown up added tension to the game (the Borg is a real threat; just dumb down by Cryptic to make them playable by 5 people) which ultimately made it fun.
Stomping all over enemies in a blink of an eye is no fun for me. Yeah, I can probably increase my DPS by about 1k using antiproton beam arrays rewarded by the Fluid Dynamic mission, however, I am a traditionalist (at least for now). The canon weapons of Starfleet (at least according to all the TV shows and movies) are phasers so that is what I use. I am sure slotting in Doffs can boost my DPS to about 10k if I wanted to, but for now I do not feel the need.
To OP:
I always PUG (use random groups) so you never know what's going to happen. (that's part of the fun IMO)
My ship is not 100% made for DPS, i prefer a more balanced approach between defense and offense.
When PUGing you have to know what to do to win a mission and what to do in to save the mission if things go really bad. Sometimes you have to attack, protect or CC enemy ships.
This needs a very differnt build than most ppl have nowadays.
The thing i hate the most aren't ppl. flying weak ships, what i hate are ppl racing through a STF(elite) and killing all the fun for the rest. I don't care for the marks TBH, i want to have a thrilling and exciting game.
Maybe i'm just a bit old-fashioned.
I think you mean STF, and not mission. I've never needed teamwork or coordination to complete a mission in this game.
But STFs where you are grouped with others, yeah, teamwork helps.
To the OP: I'd hold off on getting stuff right now. As is, any Mk XIII or XIV stuff that comes out will most likely be better than what you have now and spending resources now to improve what you have to the tippy top of MK XII seems like a waste of resources. Just know that the expansion with its new levels will provide you gear upgrades through the levelling process. And then when you get to the new level cap, you can start going after pricier end-game stuff then. It'll save you time. And October isn't that far away.
So how best to prepare for the new levels? Wait. Get upgrades later, when the new marks of gear debut.
Yep, I got messed up on my terms, but you understood what I meant and I hope others did as well.
I hear that STFs are just the borg PvEs.
My main is a Fed Joined Trill Engineer on a tac Vesta Class... cuz that's fun on this toon to fly with GW3, Gravimetric Torps, an AP beam weapons with 21.9% crit chance and 102% crit sev.
My Fed Borg Sci is on a Fleet Chimera Class... cuz I set her up for Disruptor beams with an emphasis on fleet support/healing/debuffing.
My Fed Borg Tac is in a Fleet Avenger with Phaser cannons for a traditional feel... and DPS/tanking.
Now my KDF tac on his Monbosh Battleship is built for BFAW on Spiral Wave Disruptors and torp spread as he's DPS support for a fleet/PUG mission.
The highest mark or rep gear, in the energy/torpedo type you like, that you can afford. In the highest tier ship you can afford that you like (with as much hull as possible).
Pretty Much for all uses;
Tac Team, Engineering Team, Science Team, Hazard Emitters, EP2S/W/E (depends on type of career), APO/APB/APD
If using cannons;
CRF/CSV
If using beams;
BFAW/BO
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
Not at all. The Borg space STFs have been around for a long time and are well understood, but they are now a small part of what is available. Because they are so well understood by a broad range of players, they are often easier to complete quickly than some of the other content. For example, I find that the Breach is a really fun one, but it takes some time to complete since it almost feels like 5 small STFs rolled into one. If you are trying to work through and grind out dilithium via STFs, 3 of the borg STFs are can be run quickly enough to get a fair amount of dilithium per hour if you have a good team to work with.
If you get some super fast teams together, you can get through 3 STFs on 4 toons in about an hour. Yes, you have to queue back up quickly and run with folks who already know what the other players will do, but that is a ridiculous 15520 dilithium in an hour! 960 dilithium per STF, times 3 STFs on one toon in 15 minutes is 2880. With 3 omega marks collected along the way, you can turn that in for an extra 1000 dilithium, for a total of 3880 in 15 minutes. Do that on 3 more toons, and you get 15520 in about an hour. I realize that it's not going to happen with pugged runs, and when you have to wait for others needing bathroom breaks at times, but it is possible. Reality is that usually 3 runs of 3 STFs can be completed in an hour, for 11640 dilithium.
Thanks for your responses at any rate, I've had plenty of communities simply ignore requests for help from other games in the past.
Well, I'm glad that worked out. Feel free to come around again if you want some build critique.
(UFP) Ragnar