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I hate how quiet our CM and Devs are.

strorusstrorus Member Posts: 328 Arc User
It is a real shame that there has been a decline of Dev and CM communication.

Remember when you would log on to the Dev Tracker daily and there would be 2-3 pages of Dev comments for you to catch up on.

I miss those days.

Also, WoW have just realeased they next expansion trailer... I wish there was one for DR (and not the Convention clips, I mean a proper game footage trailer).

Real Shame. :(
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    1. I miss it too. I hope it's just pre expansion hush hush

    2. If that warlords of draenor machima is their actual trailer is their official release version....id lose a good chunk of respect towards blizzard. Used to be a raid leader, was good times...new family pushed it away so I have no illl will...but Blizzard cinema is the stuff of legend...to release that makes me wonder what other "cuts" they made.

    There will be a trailer, typical new series/episode revealing
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I think I understand their strategy.

    With LoR, it was awfully hyped up with lots of energy and it died down a bit before launch. So I'm getting they are wanting to save the energy for DQ launch so they are just giving tidbits that help us understand what's coming. At the same time, they are letting the embers from the Tier 6 rage cool down a bit.


    But the Devs are posting, I seen the Taco still taking up an active role, Zero and Frost helping out with bugs and the Foundry, and the ship team taking input.
  • sekritagentsekritagent Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    There's no strategy. They just don't care and they're busy. Not to be cynical but they've said as much.
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  • mirrorterranmirrorterran Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'm wondering why the forums were down all day...but I guess that falls under the category of "communication"
  • adwynythadwynyth Member Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    There's no strategy. They just don't care and they're busy. Not to be cynical but they've said as much.
    Actually, I'm sure statements like this, as well as all the snark, hostility, and accusations of incompetence have very likely eaten into a lot of their willingness and enthusiasm to engage.

    If my customer base was as rabidly hostile as a good-sized segment of the active forum-posting players, I'd be looking for ways not to engage them too. I can't blame them.

    Not saying we don't have reasons to be angry or disappointed, but there are far better ways to express it than many I've seen around here.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I wouldn't hold much hope for this threads survival.
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  • puttenhamputtenham Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    i miss the old days of joking with and interacting with the devs.. i miss sharing back and forths with dstahl, well i guess i just miss stahl all together. lol..

    the interactions between the company and the players was one of the things that set cryptic and sto apart from other games.. it is a shame its gone..

    i miss engineering reports, and state of the games.. even though there was some stuff on them that didn't come to fruition, it at least helped to keep the forum population talking about stuff in a more positive light.. now we are left with tidbits of info, and everything else is up to interpretation. that always spells disaster anytime that happens (not just in sto).

    pre pwe cryptic rocked..
  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Ask Cryptic REALLY needs to come back at this point, if anything just to give us something to talk about. There's only so long a forum community can go with no news on the game it's supporting before it starts to turn on itself.
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited August 2014
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.
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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.

    So you're saying you're one of the smarter evil overlords that keeps his plans of world domination to himself?
  • fcaptkmtonfcaptkmton Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.

    Tacofangs, shut up and be quiet! :)
  • puttenhamputtenham Member Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.

    yeah, but I don't group you in with the other devs... you play the game on a different level than the rest.. and we appreciate it.. even if we don't like what you have to say, you still do a good job of getting the facts of what your commenting on out, and it usually stops or avoids a flame war...

    keep on keeping on taco...
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I miss Bran he was very active in forums etc...

    And kept us informed all the time
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Think of it like a movie trailer..... you get 1 or 2, sometimes 3 or more *glares at marvel* and they don't say much about the new movie.

    Games are kind of the same way, they space things out, drop hints here and there and then you get to enjoy content. And I agree, over-hyping of ANYTHING is a bad idea, games, movies, music, etc.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.
    You sir are the one exception to what seems to have become the rule, you communicate with us, listen to feedback and explain why things can't be a certain way, something that we can no longer count on from your fellows in other departments, I don't think it was intended to include you in these concerns.
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    I miss Bran he was very active in forums etc...

    And kept us informed all the time
    I think he is very active now over in the FireFall forums.
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  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Tacofangs is the perfect example really. He communicates regularly, he gives updates on things he's working on when he can, and even when he has to tell us that something definitely isn't being worked on, on the whole the community doesn't mind because the majority is just satisfied to know, one way or the other. Sure, it can be disappointing to learn that something you'd really like to see (like ship interior missions in my case) isn't on the cards, but I appreciate Taco's honesty, and the fact that he was willing to actually engage us and give us a straight answer, with an additional explanation of that answer! I'd also like to give a shout out to the devs in charge of the Foundry and Tribble boards, they're also active with their respective communities and provide a visible Cryptic presence.

    On the other hand, we now have two community managers, and it seems to me like Brandon managed to post more times per day than both of the new guys combined. Man, I miss him.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I agree that effective communication between PWE/Cryptic and the players is one of the most vital areas of the game that needs to be improved leaps and bounds above the current standards.

    That said, there are devs like Tacofangs, Crypticfrost, Borticus, Adjudicatorhawk, Jheinig, Callevista, and Crypticquack who not only post quite frequently on the STO forums, but actively communicate with the playerbase via the forums in regards to questions and feedback players have.

    I may not like all of the communication from Cryptic, but I will always be appreciative of their effort to communicate with us via the forums.

    And I would prefer to hear bad news from Cryptic than no news at all.
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  • jarodroto123jarodroto123 Member Posts: 1,337 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    I miss Bran he was very active in forums etc...

    And kept us informed all the time


    Bran wasnt hamstringed by a PWE overseer telling him how to do his job either........
  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Bran wasnt hamstringed by a PWE overseer telling him how to do his job either........

    Bran was a PWE employee, not Cryptic.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Communication has been awful recently.

    A good example would be the recent problems with doffing.

    Slow to update and, for many KDF toons, a freezing up of doff missions preventing new ones being slotted.

    This applies even to R+D slots.



    The last communication about this, according to the dev tracker, was a week ago today.

    However, the issue has not appeared on any subsequent patch notes as a known issue and we are now into a junior officer appreciation weekend.

    Thursdays apparent attempt at a fix has failed, and there's been no either acknowledgement or response to that.

    The response about the issue that was on the 'never forget' list only came after the event has began...almost as if it had been entirely forgotten and a response was slapped together hastily.


    Pretending that there is no problem with PR and CM atm does nobody any favours.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I miss when the DEV's use to talk a lot, and I got to tell them that they suck at their jobs and should be fired into a sun, whenever they did not listen to me or appreciate my greatness.
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  • shantavishantavi Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'm sure it has *nothing* to do with the fact that when a Dev posts the posts invariably get twisted about and turned into "The Devs are lying to us! They're not giving us what they *promised*".

    Honestly, I tend to feel the community has some responsibility in the Devs not posting anymore.


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  • hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    NO, there around. I hear them breathing. Think you can hide from me....DIIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
  • cptdungeoncptdungeon Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    They hasn't been a lot of convo in like what, a week? week and a half? Sans Taco and Smirk of course.

    Who cares, big deal they've been hush for 8 days.
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  • pwecaptainsmirkpwecaptainsmirk Member Posts: 1,167 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.

    LoL

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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shantavi wrote: »
    Honestly, I tend to feel the community has some responsibility in the Devs not posting anymore.

    I agree. If the community was more mature and open-minded to information from Cryptic, they wouldn't be so hesitant to provide that information. I'm guilty of it, too. It's something I try to improve on, but sometimes I falter.

    LoL

    Now you have released the Kraken.

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  • havokreignhavokreign Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    KrakenTacos?

    /10char
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    tacofangs wrote: »
    I think that's the first time I have ever been accused of being quiet.

    Not you Taco. If every dev commented as much as you, these forums would feel way more useful.
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