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Why is Cryptic afraid of the Excalibur?

ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Member Posts: 755 Arc User
edited August 2014 in Federation Discussion
Removed.

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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    There can be only one Excalibur!
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    orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ccarmichael07 wrote: »
    Why is Cryptic afraid of the Excalibur?
    Loaded questions can't be directly answered honestly.
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    cbrjwrrcbrjwrr Member Posts: 2,782 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    There can be only one Excalibur!

    You know the saying about the ugly stick touching something? Well, that looks so ugly, the stick was Yggdrasil, and that ship fell from the eagle to Nidhogg, and whacked every branch on the way down.
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Subjective observations are being subjective. Personally, I find it more attractive than more than 80% of the Federtation designs in game currently.
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    questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,417 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    Subjective observations are being subjective. Personally, I find it more attractive than more than 80% of the Federtation designs in game currently.

    But "everyone" knows you have no sense of Aesthetics whatsoever. :P
    Aside from the fact that i hate the Excalibur design, i also loath the idea that newer designs should be bigger and more powerful.

    More efficient and/or better suited for the tasks they're designed for those are reasons i can get behind, but designers should move away from the notion that newer equals bigger.
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    peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    But "everyone" knows you have no sense of Aesthetics whatsoever. :P
    Aside from the fact that i hate the Excalibur design, i also loath the idea that newer designs should be bigger and more powerful.

    More efficient and/or better suited for the tasks they're designed for those are reasons i can get behind, but designers should move away from the notion that newer equals bigger.


    I actually agree with this point. It would be nice to see some T6 ships that are defiant or voyager sized.
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    But "everyone" knows you have no sense of Aesthetics whatsoever. :P
    Aside from the fact that i hate the Excalibur design, i also loath the idea that newer designs should be bigger and more powerful.

    More efficient and/or better suited for the tasks they're designed for those are reasons i can get behind, but designers should move away from the notion that newer equals bigger.

    Who said anything about being bigger?? :confused: We don't even know the suposed size of this ship, if the destroyed hulks in game are any indication - then it's no so big.
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    zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    But "everyone" knows you have no sense of Aesthetics whatsoever. :P
    Aside from the fact that i hate the Excalibur design, i also loath the idea that newer designs should be bigger and more powerful.

    More efficient and/or better suited for the tasks they're designed for those are reasons i can get behind, but designers should move away from the notion that newer equals bigger.

    I can see the reason for going bigger with ships like the Galaxy as they are supposed to be out in deep space for a long period of time, so they bring home with them so to speak. It falls apart though when the ship has a hard time defending itself against much small ships.
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    admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,560 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    There can be only one Excalibur!

    Yes and it's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hdfQOqPT8E
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    peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    Yes and it's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hdfQOqPT8E

    Urg, it looks like the illegitimate love child of a sovereign and a chimera. *shudders*
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    admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,560 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    peetapipmac wrote: »
    Urg, it looks like the illegitimate love child of a sovereign and a chimera. *shudders*



    Dude have you looked at Regent, Avenger or that T6 concept. This baby is a thing of beauty comapred to thoses
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    stomperx99stomperx99 Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    Yes and it's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hdfQOqPT8E

    I doubt will see that anytime soon......
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    ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited August 2014
    If they are referring to the dog dragging its excrement delivery zone across the carpet enterprise, then hell no please don't.
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    peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    admiralq1732 wrote: »
    Dude have you looked at Regent, Avenger or that T6 concept. This baby is a thing of beauty comapred to thoses

    To be fair, the avenger isn't meant to be a pretty ship.




    Although of the three you mentioned it's the only one I actually like the look of.
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    peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ddesjardins wrote: »
    If they are referring to the dog dragging its excrement delivery zone across the carpet enterprise, then hell no please don't.

    Didn't it make a brief appearance in one of the cut scenes in surface tension?
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    artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2014
    peetapipmac wrote: »
    Didn't it make a brief appearance in one of the cut scenes in surface tension?

    Yup. I replayed that today, it's to the left in the cutscene.
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    There can be only one Excalibur!
    100 points! :D
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    cavaleriuscavalerius Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Bahahaha, I love it when someone quotes this ship!

    Bahaha, Excalibur. More like the Constipated Butt-prise!
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    admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,560 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    peetapipmac wrote: »
    To be fair, the avenger isn't meant to be a pretty ship.




    Although of the three you mentioned it's the only one I actually like the look of.

    No they ment it to be a vengence lookalike. bad move.
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    There can be only one Excalibur!

    As you know, i actually like that ship.
    Cryptics desingers made so many awful ships over the years that look all the same IMO.
    Why not try a design that actually has SOME fans, even if some ppl don't like it?
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    shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    cavalerius wrote: »
    Bahahaha, I love it when someone quotes this ship!

    Bahaha, Excalibur. More like the Constipated Butt-prise!

    Beats the hell out of that result of a mating ritual between a clam and a snail they call the "Dyson" or this new T6 Tron squid slapped with a frying pan. :P
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    cepholapoidcepholapoid Member Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    But the Excalibur looks like a dog with worms......not saying the dyson ships are beauties but the Excalibur is just ugly.
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    cepholapoid wrote: »
    But the Excalibur looks like a dog with worms......not saying the dyson ships are beauties but the Excalibur is just ugly.

    Well there's little to do against a preconceived opinion.

    Maybe if you try to look at it without that "dog" picture in mind, maybe it doesn't look as bad.
    Of course it's rather comfortable not to do so.
    Compared to Cryptics designs (which look all the same IMO) it looks refreshingly different.
    Not every ship has to have that elongated racing car look.

    Sure the perpetuals Excaliburis the antithesis to the Sovereign, it's tall and wide, instead of flat and long. But i can't see anything bad at it. Neck and Engineering hull have merged into one.
    It's just a different design aproach.

    Sometimes things reveal their beauty at second glance.
    Open your mind for something new. :)
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    hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I heard the Excalibur kicked their puppy once. It might even have stolen a ball of yarn from a kitten. :eek:
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    admiralq1732admiralq1732 Member Posts: 1,560 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    yreodred wrote: »
    Well there's little to do against a preconceived opinion.

    Maybe if you try to look at it without that "dog" picture in mind, maybe it doesn't look as bad.
    Of course it's rather comfortable not to do so.
    Compared to Cryptics designs (which look all the same IMO) it looks refreshingly different.
    Not every ship has to have that elongated racing car look.

    Sure the perpetuals Excaliburis the antithesis to the Sovereign, it's tall and wide, instead of flat and long. But i can't see anything bad at it. Neck and Engineering hull have merged into one.
    It's just a different design aproach.

    Sometimes things reveal their beauty at second glance.
    Open your mind for something new. :)

    Just make the engineering hull a little bigger and I'm fine with the ship.
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    askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Since the OP decided to remove his entire first post, making the rest of this thread conjecture about WHAT he was talking about, I'm going to go ahead and close this thread down.

    Next time if you want a thread removed or closed contact a mod. It makes things much much easier.
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