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With all the flames and hate coming to the forums I wanted to make one message for the developers of Star Trek Online, and the moderators for these forums.
Thank you for your hard work.
You have crafted ships for virtually every taste out there. Done uniforms for virtually all desires. you have sweated over code and sat through meetings to implement the requests of your players.
You have written stories that I do not play once and dismiss. I leveled my first character in sto to lvl 40 just replaying the Klingon missions I liked them so much.
The revamps to the tutorials since LoR are immersive and compelling. The FEs that have gone with each new season and half season have been dynamic and moved the plot of the game forward. And each has left me salivating waiting for the next chapter.
The new crafting system can't be done in a day unless you have mighty deep pockets. For this alone I say you have proof that you listen to your players. And more importantly it does something. I can make purple buffs of any energy type for my newbie characters. And as I get better at it the more I can do. And this is just the initial release content. I am again looking forward to what you have up your sleeves for more.
Now you release the next expansion to play and I am eager to see what you do.
For the mods who have the generally thankless task of keeping the forums from melting, and keeping the relative peace while allowing intelligent discussion.
Thank you. With out the work of each of you there would be an endless string of threads about working from home or how the other posters/players are TRIBBLE's.
So thank you for making it so we have a place we can share our thoughts on something we love.
Thank you for your hard work.
You have crafted ships for virtually every taste out there. Done uniforms for virtually all desires. you have sweated over code and sat through meetings to implement the requests of your players.
You have written stories that I do not play once and dismiss. I leveled my first character in sto to lvl 40 just replaying the Klingon missions I liked them so much.
The revamps to the tutorials since LoR are immersive and compelling. The FEs that have gone with each new season and half season have been dynamic and moved the plot of the game forward. And each has left me salivating waiting for the next chapter.
The new crafting system can't be done in a day unless you have mighty deep pockets. For this alone I say you have proof that you listen to your players. And more importantly it does something. I can make purple buffs of any energy type for my newbie characters. And as I get better at it the more I can do. And this is just the initial release content. I am again looking forward to what you have up your sleeves for more.
Now you release the next expansion to play and I am eager to see what you do.
For the mods who have the generally thankless task of keeping the forums from melting, and keeping the relative peace while allowing intelligent discussion.
Thank you. With out the work of each of you there would be an endless string of threads about working from home or how the other posters/players are TRIBBLE's.
So thank you for making it so we have a place we can share our thoughts on something we love.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
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Yes, for every taste. As long as it is a Tac taste.
Which is why the game is still full of bugs.
Yea, because everyone here was demanding a new crafting system be poorly disguised as a glorified rep grind that can take about 345 days to max, despite the devs saying it wouldn't be longer than a regular rep grind.
Not with that newbie character. A new toon will outlevel the rep system. Unless you become one of those guys that drops heaps of dilithium into it.
Star Trek: The Original Grind
Star Trek: The Next Grind
Star Trek: Deep Space Grind
Star Trek: Voyage to the Grind
IF you do not like this game ... do not like the development of this game ... do not enjoy this game any longer, do us all a favor... quit now.
To the OP, I second your post as a positive measure of thanks for the developers of this game. I may not agree with everything they do but without them, I wouldn't have the experience of Star Trek Online that I do now.
Because some people on this forum exist merely to whine about everything and everyone. They clearly despise the game..yet they stay. Contradictory much?
This game remains the best MMO to me.
This game isn't perfect and there are appropriate places to vent/provide useful feedback. But please, allow some appreciation to stand without blemish.
I've been noticing a growing discontent on the forums with people who seem to complain just for the sake of complaining, who turn every little thing into a criticism of the game or cryptic, and I'm glad to see that. I'm hoping it's a first step toward a more reasonable environment, one that Star Trek deserves.
So they should come in here and lie and pretend to be in support of it?
No, they don't have to come in at all. That's what DOOOOM threads are for.
I enjoy this game. I want it to develop. I may not agree with everything Cryptic does or implements. I do *not* whine and moan like someone kicked my puppy and mommy turns away without providing consolation. Ignore posts that you do not agree with and go vent on one of the numerous other posts on this forum.
Without Cryptic, we wouldn't be here discussing it. No one says you cannot do whining posts, just ignore the posts that you disagree with and move on and let some of us post our views on the forum for a change.
So... all power to you, OP, for being more on the positive side.
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1. Escorts royally blow. Cruisers and Science ships are far more useful. People who think that DPS is everything deserve to be miserable.
2. Every game has bugs. MMOs have their bugs spotted faster because there's no reason not to nose around.
3. I'm at level 10 in two schools of the crafting system already. Once you get to level 15, "levelling" the crafting system is just a formality. You can get to level 15 in about as much time as it takes to max out a reputation. It's REALLY not that hard.
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While I DON'T agree with the OP, and have my own feelings regarding Cryptic and it's handling of the game...
I COMPLETELY AGREE that tearing apart someone's expression of gratitude to the Devs is inappropriate and rude.
We all have our own feelings, thoughts and beliefs about the game and it's developers, and should be free to express them, good or bad.
"You shoot him, I shoot you, I leave both your bodies here and go out for a late night snack.
I'm thinking maybe pancakes." ~ John Casey
Unless you're an original Star Trek series (1966-1969) fan; and would like to be able to realistically use your favorite Hero ship (aka the ship that STARTED the Star Trek franchise) in end game.
(And sorry, with all the other ridiculous Lock Box 26th century and other stuff they've added to T5 and will probably continue with T6 - please spare me the - "But it's immersion breaking..." response as BOTH CBS and Cryptic abandoned any pretense at 'Star Trek immersion' YEARS ago.)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
while I find myself in a weird place.. actually somewhat looking forward to the expansion, I cant help but wonder about your point of view either..
you say, why does everyone feel the need to be negative (in so many words).. well, what I ask you, is why is more than three quarters of the forum goers negative.. I mean, its not like its 1 or two people being negative.. the poor development up to this point of the game, has created more and more distastefull fallowers..
why do we stick around, well, its our star trek fix.. we want this game to be good. we are not just ranting and raving to hear our own voices.. most are legitimately trying to show the devs something is wrong, and it needs to be fixed.. and I have watched the negativity grow on these forums, because even when 90 percent of the people posting here, disagree with something (best example is the 4th year anniversary) they don't do anything about it.. even though they say they are listening and things are subject to change, nothing has ever changed..
this inherent lack of caring for not only the game, but for the general customers wants and needs creates this sespool that are the forums.. this backlash, and this negativity (not just on these forums, but all over the internet) is entirely their own doing. cryptic has created a track record for itself, and there is a reason not a lot of people take them seriously.
and again, if it was a handful of people who were negative, and the majority of the population here were positive, I could see your point.. but since its not, I do not.. honestly, ask yourself.. are all the negative people wrong?... are we all just making stuff up just to have a field day giving it to the devs?... or is there something really terribly wrong here. sure, some of the morons on here take it too far.. frustration gets the best of some people.. others are trolls. also, a lot of these thank you threads, or cryptic is great threads are trolls trying to start the very wars that end up happening in them.
as far as giving the devs thanks.. well, while positive reinforcement is nice, I don't see the need for thank you posts.. its a business, they are not trying to do us, the consumer any favors, as they are trying to make money ( as they should). overly praising someone for doing their job, what they get paid to do, seems a bit over the top to me. in most cases, it is a person thinking he will get special treatment because he is kissing dev butt... I very rarely get thanked for doing my job... and I don't expect it.. my thanks is my paycheck and the fact I still have a job week to week, year to year.
guess they dont care for your praise? wouldnt be the first time they upset someone.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Before I started it I asked Bluegeek if there was a way to just send a thank you to the devs and mods. He recommended I just put in a thread. I am very happy to see he is right and there are those here that still love this game.
Play on.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
Um, give it time?
Took me a day to notice it and I'm not trying to get a game expansion out in two months.
I can't speak for anyone but me, but I appreciate the 'Thank you'.
Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
Also, a love for the original trek does not kill things for me.
But please keep the ragers. They are a great source of entertainment when I can't play. I'm sure they cause a lot of laughter at Cryptic too. Hell, if I worked there I would make changes just to see the rants. Don't tell me you guys don't do that once in a while for the fun of it! I would guess that there is even betting.
"The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." - James T. Kirk
What? How does that make any sense?
"The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." - James T. Kirk
Um, don't think so. Mostly, the raging seems to be a source of frustration. Seems a lot like they take heat no matter what they do, where the forums are concerned.
And I, personally, don't like the raging because it brings the whole community down and makes it more difficult to keep the peace while letting everyone's voices be heard. But, that's part of the job.
There's a big difference between constructive negative feedback and flaming the Devs in nerd rage. It's not really that fine of a line most of the time. The one is allowed, the other is not, and management toleration of those who try to skirt the rules is at an all-time low. I try to let people vent, but that's closer to the line. Mocking people who are venting, just doesn't help improve the atmosphere. Reasoning with them... doesn't always work. Letting it go on and on and on, definitely counter-productive.
I've seen enough Dev comments to know that they do appreciate when someone praises something they've done and it helps. They also appreciate when somebody finds a gotcha and respectfully lets them know about it. They want to know when something's not working the way they intended, even if they might not be able to do something about it right away.
Raging is just not the right way, that's all.
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"The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." - James T. Kirk
Thank you for not forcing me to have ARC, to play the game.
Thank you for adding cool TOS Era stuff, even though it's really only good for a little while.
Thank you for (mostly) ignoring my rash posts, early in the history of the forums.
Thank you for being the only ACTIVE Star Trek game still mostly fun to play.
Thank you for up-grading the graphics of the game occasionally, which has encouraged me to finally break down and purchase a new desk-top to replace my 8 year-old HP 'Frankenstein'.
(ordered a Dell XPS 8700 - it arrives Monday)
Thank you for giving us BranFlakes to harass for awhile (that was really fun) :P
Thank you for not having "cups" in the office because of those ATARI idiots, and surviving.
Thank you for being there, whenever I need a Star Trek fix.
(though you do occasionally seriously cut into my TRIBBLE time with the GF, cause she plays also!) :rolleyes:
Thank you for making "SOON" and "CRYPTIC" the catch-phrases of the forums.
Thank you for making TacoFang part of your company and one of the best parts of these forums.
Thank you for reading this far through my "Thank You" rant.
And finally...,
Thank you for continuing to add interesting and delightfully debatable expansion-packs to the game.
I'm getting giddy now, time to go read the "DOOM" thread.
:cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
Thank you for 4.5 years of fun and the occasional Trek-STO-Nerd-Rage. :cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
One assumes you don't have a problem with the way that Cryptic talks about us (players aka customers) in podcasts, such as the recent STOked interview, or the STLV event.
Time for some "loyal player" to post a doom thread that has no footing in the game. TRIBBLE
Know the difference
It could save your life...
I only started playing about 40 days ago due to being off work with a broken shoulder but now I'm hooked and have 2 level 50 fed and rom toons.
I've really enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to DR.
First, I have not heard the interviews since I am either at work and can only check forums during breaks. Or I am at home and probably playing, not on the forums or wherever they do the audio from.
And for my second. When I wrote this thank you there were two pages of hate as the only topics to be mentioned. If the level of constructive (ie helpful) feedback is buried in bile then I do not blame the devs for feeling there is nothing worth while in most of the feedback. Because they would need someone to full time sift through the hate to find one or two useful posts.
So yes, I do not have a problem with the way that the people at Cryptic have spoken about the players at large. Because the players earned that ire.
And I have said it once. And I shall say it again. The devs and Cryptic are appreciated for their hard work and patience in giving us something nice.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.