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Odyssey uniforms and Starfleet enlisted (take two)

starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
edited August 2014 in The Foundry for Star Trek Online - Discussion & Feedback
Forum glitched out when I posted this earlier and I ended up with an empty thread somehow. :confused:

With ThomasTheCat having posted the guide Cryptic's using for the Odyssey uniforms on NPCs (courtesy link), I started putting the NPCs in my Foundry missions ("Bait and Switch, Part I" and two missions in development hell) into the uniforms. It occurred to me that we still don't have dedicated rank insignia for enlisted personnel other than CPOs.

The solution I used was to apply officer insignia to the enlisted color patterns, with Master Chief Wiggin from B&S1 getting four pips (captain's insignia). In full, my insignia system is as follows:
  • Crewman Recruit, Crewman Apprentice, Crewman (E-1 through E-3): Chief insignia
  • Petty Officer, Third Class (E-4): Ensign
  • Petty Officer, Second Class (E-5): Lieutenant junior grade
  • Petty Officer, First Class (E-6): Lieutenant
  • Chief Petty Officer (E-7): Lieutenant Commander
  • Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8): Commander
  • Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9): Captain
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  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I'm concerned this might lead to confusion with common players who aren't going to immediately recognize the distinction between officers and enlisted.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2014
    I changed the code slightly (such as adding the Vet jacket as the CiC), Enlisted now use The TNG films / DS9 top with Oddy colour schemes, silver ranks, and WoK trousers.

    Chief - Crewman 3rd Class
    Ensign - Crewman 2nd Class
    Lieutenant JG - Crewman 1st Class
    Lieutenant - Petty Officer
    Lt Commander - Senior Petty Officer
    Commander - Master Petty Officer
    Captain - Chief Petty Officer
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    thegreendragoon1 wrote: »
    I'm concerned this might lead to confusion with common players who aren't going to immediately recognize the distinction between officers and enlisted.

    Well, I've frankly had it with pandering to the lowest common denominator. If they can't read the part of the dialog window that says "Master Chief So-and-So" on it, compare it to the window that says "Commander Whatsherface", and put two and two together, lack of military knowledge is the least of their problems.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Another thing I've done is use H10 gray as the divisional color for an acting ensign, and use H10 silver braid on a flag captain (captain of an admiral's flagship).
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • dariuskoronikovdariuskoronikov Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    hows it pandering..if in star trek itself..only the chiefs had an insignia?

    I find personallyusing the dress uniforms for the Admirals gives a very classy look previously they'd look like they were wearing oversizd coats in some places.

    I had to change all my 40 sims npcs cos i religously used the antares 2 uniorm (as most npcs in ships and spacedock wore them i assumed it was the more..common in starfleet )

    I'm glad all the default npcs have changed too (the mishmash of uniforms got annoying after a while )
  • adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    dariuskoronikov wrote: »
    hows it pandering..if in star trek itself..only the chiefs had an insignia?

    I find personallyusing the dress uniforms for the Admirals gives a very classy look previously they'd look like they were wearing oversizd coats in some places.

    I had to change all my 40 sims npcs cos i religously used the antares 2 uniorm (as most npcs in ships and spacedock wore them i assumed it was the more..common in starfleet )

    I'm glad all the default npcs have changed too (the mishmash of uniforms got annoying after a while )

    Totally agree with the Admirals, they look so much more dignified than they used to.
    I also like the colour distinction between Vice and full Admirals with silver and gold
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