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Talks about the Vesta line getting a upgrade...

lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,905 Arc User
edited August 2014 in Federation Discussion
If/when they do get one is anyone like me hoping they make em a little more sturdy? I mean the MME's are almost the size of assault cruiser yet they have just ever so slightly more hull than the Nova...the smallest fleet science ship in the game...not to mention less shields as well.

I don't expect them to bump the shields up to 1.5 or the hull to 40k...but wouldn't it be nice is she was just a bit sturdier? Like 32k maybe...I mean even the fleet Saber has over 30k hull!
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Yeah, it should get a boost to shields and HP, but that's about it really. I don't see how else it can be improved. Maybe beef up the console set bonuses?
  • pwstolemynamepwstolemyname Member Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I love my vesta, I realy do. But I have no idea why it should be getting a buff over anything else. As it stands it is the most versatile jack of all trades on the fed side.

    Yes its weakest point is tanking, but set up and flown properly it can still take a fantastic pounding.

    I think the 'big three' Galaxy, defiant and intrepid need dev attention more then the vesta.
  • nippeli222nippeli222 Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The only buff the Vesta needs is something like 3k more hull hp I havent ever seen an vesta explode so im not sure if it even needs that. I dont own the Vesa but I have seen its stats and some gameplay footage look on youtube all the Vestas are powercreeps for example look on yt on umbreonas master build on it and sci ships are not powercreeps in STO look at the Intrepid it has maybe 1/5 of voyagers fire power and the Vesta has the same fire power that it had in the books.
  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I really don't see the need. The Vesta line is the hands down best science boat in the game.



    On the other hand, it might be a foreshadowing of some nasty bad guys in future add-ons to the game. Something, as it stands now, the type would be hard pressed to handle.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The vesta is fine. I use it with a high-dps-build giving me 20k in pugs, and as you can imagine, sacrifice a lot of tankiness in there, but still dont die. All a matter of build and synergies.

    Of course I would appreciate more hull -talk about powercreep eh- but it is not really needed.
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    oldravenman3025 wrote: »
    I really don't see the need. The Vesta line is the hands down best science boat in the game.
    100% agreed.
    Other ships desperately need an better BOFF/console layout, the Vesta line is one of the few Starfleet ships (apart from most escorts and some other ships) that does NOT need such a treatment.

    I have seen ppl doing 30k+ DPS with it and with the right setup you can even easily tank Starbase 234. So i don't see the need of ANY change at all.

    The devs would be well advised to take care of other ships, not only their personal Mary-Sues.
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    yreodred wrote: »
    Other ships desperately need an better BOFF/console layout, the Vesta line is one of the few Starfleet ships (apart from most escorts and some other ships) that does NOT need such a treatment.
    Other ships needing to be updated doesn't invalidate the Vesta getting a slight tweaking.

    I just think it needs its hp and shield mod slightly tweaked. But otherwise, yeah it's fine.
  • ragnar0xragnar0x Member Posts: 296 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I would go for 32k hp and 1.43 shield mod. Only stf that i get blown away is cure found elite when I do too much dmg and get all the aggro and if i use all my survival abilities before it then I die. And maybe in cce when i charge too close the entity and their crystals kills me. and thats it.

    secondary defl. + 32k hp and 1.43 shield mod(like all sci fleet ships) and maybe a fleet version of it? with changes on the hull nacelles and everything. I could buy flleet modules for real cash just for that :)
  • kintishokintisho Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    All sci wessels should get the secondary deflector as was promised FIRST then worry about knit picking individual wessels.

    Also, BEST sci ship in game is the Wells hands down, Ill pvp any vesta and come out unscathed (I have a char with each btw)
  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I have to agree, the only thing the Vesta line should get is a secondary deflector (but so should every science ship).

    I'm hoping for a revamped Intrepid, since there's all those [redacted] species files found in data mining.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I find I rarely die in my eng. vesta, only happens if I get too much aggro (which shows just how much damage you can do to get all the aggro!) or don't react fast enough.

    In either instance I don't think more hull or shields would help much.

    And my vesta does plenty of damage for a ship with only 6 guns and 3 tac consoles, way more than a lot of cruisers and escorts I've played on teams with.

    The only thing is like to see is secondary deflectors. We've waited king enough now it's just a running joke if and when they will be added. Those may well offer options for boosted survivability.
    I'd maybe pay for an upgraded fleet version with a new skin on it though.
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  • xegiduaxegidua Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Less emphasis on the new STO nonsense ships and more on the hero and "on the telly" ships, please.

    New shiny stuff is all well and good, but most players want their hero ships to be fun to play, not something we have to struggle with just because we want to play it.
  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I figure they're just gonna make the aux phaser cannons stuck on it like the Dyson.
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  • coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    I figure they're just gonna make the aux phaser cannons stuck on it like the Dyson.

    I think they learned their lesson when people off loaded the AUX Phaser Cannons from the Vesta... hence the new Dyson Sci Destroyers having it fused.
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  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I really do not think that the vesta needs a buff. If anything, I would like to see the nebula get a boost before anything else.
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jagdhippies wrote: »
    I really do not think that the vesta needs a buff. If anything, I would like to see the nebula get a boost before anything else.

    This. Not to mention the fleet deep space sci.
    Does the prommie count as a sci boat, because that could use a revamp too! :P
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,905 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    jagdhippies wrote: »
    I really do not think that the vesta needs a buff. If anything, I would like to see the nebula get a boost before anything else.

    I just mention it and what I'd like because it has already been mentioned they went to modify it in some way but haven't gone beyond that.

    I didn't think about it beforehand but maybe stofsk has it...maybe they will give it a better 2 piece bonus since it's really kinda useless.
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    kintisho wrote: »
    All sci wessels should get the secondary deflector as was promised FIRST then worry about knit picking individual wessels.

    Also, BEST sci ship in game is the Wells hands down, Ill pvp any vesta and come out unscathed (I have a char with each btw)

    Might be the best in pvp, but for pve the tables really turn around ;)
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited August 2014
    pwstolemyname wrote: »
    I love my vesta, I realy do. But I have no idea why it should be getting a buff over anything else. As it stands it is the most versatile jack of all trades on the fed side.

    Yes its weakest point is tanking, but set up and flown properly it can still take a fantastic pounding.

    I think the 'big three' Galaxy, defiant and intrepid need dev attention more then the vesta.

    Agreed - the vesta is the most versatile sci ship in the game.
  • chemist6lpchemist6lp Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The hull could use a minor buff to bring it on par with other fleet level ships, let's say 2K. That's about it. Shields should probably stay as they are. After all, it has a hangar a very versatile boff setup. Cannons too, though they're somewhat hard to point at your target (PvP-wise).
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