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Devs Please Buff the Narcine's Mobulai Frigates
gooddaytodie39
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I'm loving the Narcine so far, so kudos on a great ship that looks great too albeit a little flat. With that said, I think the Mobulai frigate pets could really use a tweak to their firepower. I parsed them at 1300 DPS. Seems pretty low for a Frigate and iirc that would put it below some fighters out there and probably towards the bottom of the list for frigate DPS.
From what I've seen so far, the mines they drop are pretty useless.
My suggestions would be to give them Torp Spread. You could start with TS 1 for the basic Mobulais and go up to TS3 for the Elites. I suggest TS just because it would be different. No other pets use that BO power.
For their beams I'd suggest giving them Beam Overload I-III though beam Fire at Will would be cool too.
Thanks for the consideration.
From what I've seen so far, the mines they drop are pretty useless.
My suggestions would be to give them Torp Spread. You could start with TS 1 for the basic Mobulais and go up to TS3 for the Elites. I suggest TS just because it would be different. No other pets use that BO power.
For their beams I'd suggest giving them Beam Overload I-III though beam Fire at Will would be cool too.
Thanks for the consideration.
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I agree that they should be unlocked. But I don't agree that the Narcine out classes the Jemmy. Without looking at a head to head comparison, that only thing that sticks out in my mind is the turn rate. But considering you'll be running either as beam boats because of the OP beam reasons, turn rate makes no difference.
I parsed the voth elite frigates with about 500 dps (one wing). There were complaints about them being sensless since release... They got still no buff, so balancing pets seems not to be intended.
I'd really rather not run Scorps or Swarmers...
Well they're called fighters but honestly they're more equivalent to shuttles.
In this game though, I don't see a point to having a "tanky" hangar pet with low DPS. If the Devs intended role for these guys was just good ol' survivability and low damage and they'll confirm that then I'll understand and go get me some elite swarmers or Scorps. But like I've said, I'd prefer they buffed the current ones so I can run the pets that match the ship...ya know?
As to their role; the Mobulai fit somewhere between DPS and Debuff, the beam's needle burst proc, the mines, the resonance cascade burst...they're all about AoE damage and minor damage resistance debuffs. They work wonders when you run a sci in the carrier's lt cmdr slot for GW1 and their habit of hugging their target makes them good reflectors for the carrier's Ripples of Death console.
If that's for the elites, wow, how really really sad. Does that include the cascade as well?
My guess is it's the combination of poor weapon layout and lack of offensive abilities besides the mine dispersal.
Beautiful as it is, it's entirely too flat, LOL. Keep in mind they're supposed to be filled with water, and they're quite bulky (in Enterprise at least).
Their size is off too. They need to be as large as a Voth Citadel (or close to it). Maybe that's impractical for the game, I get that; but yeah, they're too flat.
Bridge is a bust too, btw. Like with the Undine ships, seems they've given up on making nice bridges.
OT: Yeah, at 100k FC a pop. pets could use a buff. They don't die a lot, though, so nurturing them may well pay off (haven't gotten mine long enough to tell; only bought the ship yesterday).
It was for the basic ones that come with the ship. The only difference between the basic and elite are more mines and stronger cascade and with the mines doing next to nothing because they're not dropped near targets, I can't imagine there would be a significant dmg increase with the Elites.
I don't know enough about the Cascade's debuff versus say Attack Pattern Beta. Does it stack?
I'm guessing Bort and Dev's are super busy preparing for the Vegas Trek and we won't hear anything on this till after the convention...
But this thread needs something to talk about :P
As lebtron pointed out they don't seem to care much about modding carrier pets, ai or build.
The Heavy Fighters are junk and have been since release...which was a long time ago. I just don't think they will bother with the Mobulai either...the only things I've seen them do to carrier pets in the last what...year or more has only made them worse.
Still think it's the setup, I'd like to see the beam configuration switched to Phased Biomatter Dual Beam Bank x2 and an Omnidirection Phased Biomatter Beam Array plus Beam Overload 3 or something, the mine is not cutting it.
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I am sry I dont understand, 4.5k dps is not good enuff? I remember when rom drones came, parsers showed same, on elites too. And I think at some point in the past someone parsed my elite jhas pets too at the same 4k-5k dps range. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying they dont need improvements, but for different reasons. I'll explain why:
Now here are the stats, had to quote them since wiki dont have them yet.
I've noticed that the fore beam array doenst fire. Only the dual beam and torp seems to fire from fore. The aft beam array fires normaly.
And as about the mines, the pets do launch them, but it seems only when they are in range. Here I have to say they are smarter then other pets like the yelowstone pets, wich spam plasma all over the place. Probably thats why some ppl thought the mobulai didnt use its mines, becouse were expecting to just spam them all over the place.
My only suggestion is to switch dispersal pattern alpha with beta. Alpha, acording to wiki, both rank II and III spawn the same number of mines. And I know wiki is outdated and unreliable, but here I tend to agree. I've witnessed very low number of mines deployed with dispersal pattern alpha III. This way pets efectivness with increase and still keep them WAI.
Also one last thing, would be nice if the elite version would gain an extra skill, like alot of other hangar pets have, even if its rank I.
Question is are you expecting them to spew out as many mines as a player? Pets only drop a single mine while a unbuffed player mine launches 4.
although it would be better if it had spread or something else