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encadi
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Hey guys i just recently got my Romulan to 50 if anyone has the time and the eforrt to give me a good round guide how they would fit the Daeinos for a Tactical officer i would be extremly grateful
- Slot Layout: Weapons, Deflectors, Impulse, Singularity, Shields. Consoles (bit rusty so if you cana void acronyms it would be awesome)
- Tactical captain skills advice would be amazing also
- Tactical Officer Kit (any advice with this is also welcome! they made this customizable sicne i last played)
If you want add like a newbie (no repus) to optimal (all repus) so I can see what i should work on
Thanks alot for the help and reading this!
- Slot Layout: Weapons, Deflectors, Impulse, Singularity, Shields. Consoles (bit rusty so if you cana void acronyms it would be awesome)
- Tactical captain skills advice would be amazing also
- Tactical Officer Kit (any advice with this is also welcome! they made this customizable sicne i last played)
If you want add like a newbie (no repus) to optimal (all repus) so I can see what i should work on
Thanks alot for the help and reading this!
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Must haves are also Kinetic cutting beam+assimilated Module (both omega rep) and plasmonic leech (exchange/Tal shiar lockbox on fed/ Vandal-Destroyer (a lv20-ship for 1k zen) on kdf).
As for weapons, it would be interesting if you want Dual heavy cannons (DHC) or beam arrays.
Energytype is up to you, most powerful would be AP, Plasma and (depending of build) Disruptor, though that doesnt really make a big difference if you dont want super-duper-imba-dps where every single point of dps is important^^
Tactical consoles are of the choosen energytype of course, and best fleet locators.
BO-Layout depends on what weapons you want, but you should have 2 Tactical teams (or 1+2purple Doffs for it), 2 abilities for your weapons (like fire at will or rapid fire) and 2 Attack pattern betas (II+III). On Enginnering Emergency power to shields and weapons are recommended. 1-2 Hazard emitters and 1-2 Transfer shield strength are also recommended (since i wouldnt use aux2bat, TSS is better than science team).
Thats pretty much outlines how it should look like, all other consoles are nice to have (like lobi-consoles for crth/d or fleet embassy consoles flowcap with [Pla]-mod).
-SHIP SLOTS-
Fore Weapons: 3x Plasma Dual Heavy Cannons 1x Plasma Torpedo (Cannons better than beam arrays for such ana gile ship?) (Plasma from New Romulan makes a nice theme for a romulan ship?)
Aft Weapons: 1x Kinetic Cutter (Omega) 2x (Plasma Turrets?)
Deflector: Assimilated (Omega)
Impulse: Assimilated (Omega)
Singularity: Elite Fleet Singularity Core [AMP] (Fleet)
Shields: Elite Shield [resB] [Adapt] (fleet)
Engineering Consoles (3): (Whats best here?)
Science COnsoles (2): Plasmodic Leech (whats the cheapest/easiest way to get this) and Assimilated Module (omega) (should i put these 2 universal here?)
Tactical Consoles (4): 2? x Plasma Damage 2? x Advanced Tactical Vulnerability Locator? (not really clear with this)
-BOFF SLOTS-
Commander TAC: Tac Team I, Scatter Voll I, Torpedo Spread III, ???
Lt Commander Univ (TAC?): Tac Team I, Torpedo Spread II, Scatter Volley II
Liutenant Engi: EP2W I, EP2S II
Liutenant Science: Hazard Emitters I, Transfer Shield Strenght II
Ensign Universal (SCI?): Hazard Emitters I ?
- THINGS I DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND -
- should have 2 Tactical teams (or 1+2purple Doffs for it) (Can tactical teams have the same rank?)
- Whats better rapidfire or scatetr volley and can they be the same rank?
- Opinions on beams vs Cannons for this ship
-CAPTAIN SKILLS-
Im so lsot in this section I know there are some pretty basic one si should get but kinda lost voerall
- BOFFS PASIVES AND TRAITS-
What BOFFs pasives and Traits you guys like or consider good fro a ship like this? Romulan captain btw
-KIT POWERS-
OMG! they chanegd the kits and im quite lost theya re fully customizable now?
I know tis quite a logn psot but any help would be apreciated, thanks again!
Ah, i forgot: for the EptX-Skills you will need 3 damage control engineers to reduce CD of them. The rest is pretty much optional, though i would suggest using a warp core engineer for chance for more energy too.
This means No torpedos whatsoever?
Sounds like a good mix?
If i put the Universal consoles in Engineering aka Borg and Plasmodic and then add a Neutronium what would you recomend putting in science then?
This means NO +plasma damage consoles and put 4x (no stacking penalties?) Advanced Tactical Vulnerability Locator
Wops my bad i meant doffs not boffs, hehe like the damage control oens you said
Any recomendaiton for the overall elite STF's without gettign into specificaitons for a tactical captain?
Oh wow! so there are traits you need to buy or get it and dont come with the normal character leveling? Thats soemthing I didnt know i guess i should read on that!
- EXTRA QUESTIONS -
1/ I guess overall miniguns are still the prefered ground weapons?
2/ Since the ship coems with the cloak I guess its always a better idea to start the combat form cloak so youg et the bonus damage, but is it wise going in combat cloak to get that bonus damage or you normally lose DPS doing that and become really vulnerable?
3/ For the gear you recomended i guess i should really work on the Romulan and Borg Reputations specially, anything goodf rom Rukara, Undine and Dyson ones?
4/ I have got a bunch of keys and boxes from pretty much all times, are boxed more or less balanced or if i can choose what boxes you recomend me opening?
Oh wow so many questions sitll hehe sorry! Anyway thanks alot for the help and thanks for bringing me up tod ate guys
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Cant really tell you, since I dont have it. It doesnt look bad, so if you put it in either engineering or Sci-slots, it should be ok. Just test it, maybe against mentioned flowcaps from embassy, what every performs better or you like more, take it. There are very well within parameters of player style and wont have much impact on performance, so even if its only situative or looks good, you can take it without remorse.
As a tactical captain you recomend close range kit but that mostly gives the stun granade, a melee dmg buff, a gap closer with exploit attack and an aoe melee dmg, I rememebr hearing in the past that melee weapons were quite gimp in dmg and quite dangerous to use? What do you think about that? wouldnt using that melee kit be wasteful or?
Wops also a second question =p Do bridge officers space traits apply to the ship?
These things are easy to change; you probably have or can easily get spare bridge officers -- they don't need gear, just a little expertise for space work. Swapping a torp in for a cannon is also trivial. You can see which setup you like best, they all have merits. You could even set it up with dual beam banks and A2B with the uni being engineer -- its a flexible ship.
Consoles, the usual suspects are sweet... leech, valdore, and then you have to consider if you want to use its special console or not. With it you get a dps increase but you may find that increase to be too small for a console slot. This is another try it yourself to see what you like.
Well, melee was always top against borg. With that kit (though stun grenade was substituted with Ambush for more dmg) you dont "need" a weapon against borg. Sure, in some cases you might need some longrange-weapon (manus in infected), but I use kit-powers 99% of the time.
It is dangerous, since you can get assimilitated, but on the other said borg wont shoot at you at close range, and those can be more dangerous.
Sweeping stirkes are very powerful, laying whole mobs in 2-3 attacks. Lunge ignores holds/roots, so you can close gaps even if rooted. Motion accelerator is great for dmg and speed. Ambush ( added this one to my kit) enhances the next attack, which can result in aoe-instant-kills. As fifth ability I use Biotech siphon against bosses, giving me 50% of my outgoing melee damage as heal, making me virtually unkillable for 15seconds, if they dont get lucky at hit me with an orbital beam (Armek) or plates go on overkill (Hive Queen), the latter one is a one-hit for sure, the first one tend to one-hit, so high heals dont help in that regard. Though at least armeks orbitalbeam is normally not a problem, as you stand aside him were it normally doesnt hit you.
Of course you can also go on range attacks with ambush, photon grenade and plasma grenade and other abilities. I usually use motion accelerator for every tactoon, just because its a very convenient ability. Battle strategies or rally cry are also worth considering. Though both are viable, I get better results with the all-melee approach. You might have to experiment whats better for you.
Edit: Yes space traits apply to ship. Thoug Infiltrator doesnt stack if you use multiple BOs with it, but Superior rom operative does. Leadership (Humans) and efficient (which is totally obsolete though) do also stack.
- Scimitar Pack for a tac officer worth it? I guess use the scimitar model (tactical)
- Are the 3 consoles worth it?
- Beam or Cannon Scimitar?
- Any other super good consoles for the scimitar?
Thanks again!
The Scimitar is at present the mightiest player ship in STO. However, for that very reason, I'd recommend against it. Odds are your Daenos is far more pleasant and entertaining to fly, and it doesn't turn game content entirely trivial.
Back to the Daeinos...
I have a Fleet Ar'kif dual heavy antiproton cannon build, armed to the gills with things meant to murder things with hard pounding weaponry supplemented by high critical hit and severity. However, even since Seaon 9 came out, I found the dual heavy cannon builds far less capable of dealing with the new content in comparison to beamboat builds like my Federation Avenger battlecruiser A2B BFAW set up.
So, I decided to adapt one of my romulan ships to that. The Fleet Daeinos seemed ideal for an mostly-plasma beam build, since plasma infusers (or the vulnerability locator equivalents) would also improve the plasma lotus as well.
If you can compensate the low turnrate, a DHC-Build is possible, though Beam are easier to fly with.
I was surprise to see Beam arrays instead of Banks but i guess you always learn new things hehe
Maybe change the boff layout a bit specially science and engi to be a bit more like the Daeimos for the extra heals?
Also about fighters are the scorpion good? I kinda like them thematically but got any opinion about fighters performance and what are the best ones for DPS?
Thank you
The linked build is ok, but has several enhancement-possibilities. Something like this might be better to start with, giving you high dps and very high survivability. Its a build which need 2 connofficer for tacteam and 3damage control engineers for EptX. Of course, Locators instead of normal plas-consoles. Also romplasma with crtdx2 for more damage.
- Singularity Powers? I tended to use the damage one but noticed it break other weapon powers so prolly not a good idea to use it? i know theya re kinda situational like the jump or the shield but which one you find useful?
- Energy levels you would use for the sicmitar?
- Fighters normally on intercept?
Warpshadows is the most powerful ability, giving you 15seconds breathing room. Second one would be Quantum Absorption (Heal). Overload is wasted since it sets other abilities on CD.
Energylevels depend on build, you weapons should be near max, and everything else should be over 75 energy in combat with all continuus buffs (EptX,Leech) if you use Elite fleet singularity core with AMP.
CSE aside they should be on Attack.