this is even better http://www.omegaprimary.com/dpsguide/
Lets look through this for DOFF requirements they have
they say to not put anything in tac consoles slots, yet if you look through their builds they do
Tell you to spend 52 million energy credits on a Marion doff... yet they don't have you put DEM on... if youre running a proper aux to bat, you don't need that energy weapons officer for a chance to reduce cooldown on special beam attacks.
If you're going to have people spend EC on doffs, get Keel'El
TheGrateLordeCheesus Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM Doesn't Owe AnyoneEC Kirks Prot
B4 you start teaching people, make sure you actually have a effin clue about what you're talking about first... your courses are probably why the general player base is so hopelessly bad at PVE in this game.
Didn't read the thread. Or the OP. Saw the Avenger link though. All I can say is, that thing is fitted like TRIBBLE. I mean at least you're aux2batting but cannons and beams? Bad bad bad. All beams, Faw2, APO1/APB2.
Is this thread a joke or do you seriously think these build links are how you are supposed to build a ship? These builds are as bad, or worse, than some of the ones those people who barely manage to pull 500 dps use. Is this PWE new strategy, we complain about lack of challenging content so they decide to train the player base how to suck hard enough that the content becomes a challenge?
If this is a serious thread then the coaches need to learn how to actually play the game before they try to teach others. Good god.
I missed the first two classes. Stuff came up IRL, long sorry. I'm likely not going to be making any. I'll try to be there next time, though. If there is one.
This is actually a serious thread! No one bothered to see if these guys were any good before giving the go ahead. Now everyone is being taught how to build terrible ships! And no, there is no trolling here. that's the sad part.
Oh and icegavel, don't take any advice from them. they know not what they're doing. Talk to people who know how to play the game. Nova Core comes to mind, RedditAlert, TBC, and others. The help you'll get is far superior than anything the bootcamp will offer.
TheGrateLordeCheesus Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM Doesn't Owe AnyoneEC Kirks Prot
without plasmonic leach....or a maco shield.....how are you going to power 8 energy weapons ? 5 beam arrays use all the power a new player can generate...you assume he has unimited items and resources....He does not
this is for a new poor just starting player with no rep no fleet credits barley any ec
without romulan -threat consoles bfaw will send the new player to the respawn point a new player doesnt have these either
you show a lot of inexperence here
no we have records of your dps ..its 4.5k..........
FYI, The MACO shield cancels out plasmonic leach in case you didn't know. So, NEVER run the two together.
But, more importantly, we all know that no one can get above 10k dps--unless they are hacking their combatlog to fool the parser. Furthermore, it is also widely known that you should never use 5 DHC's up front as the game engine is incapable of firing them all off, so you waste a forward weapon. Much better to use a torpedo or beam array in that 5th spot.
I swear, so many trolls in this game. How on earth is a new player ever going to sort it all out?
But, more importantly, we all know that no one can get above 10k dps--unless they are hacking their combatlog to fool the parser. Furthermore, it is also widely known that you should never use 5 DHC's up front as the game engine is incapable of firing them all off, so you waste a forward weapon. Much better to use a torpedo or beam array in that 5th spot.
I swear, so many trolls in this game. How on earth is a new player ever going to sort it all out?
Please make sure you're not spouting provably false bad advice before claiming other people are trolling.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Furthermore, it is also widely known that you should never use 5 DHC's up front as the game engine is incapable of firing them all off, so you waste a forward weapon. Much better to use a torpedo or beam array in that 5th spot.
Wait, is this actually true? I've heard this particular tale before, but never reliably confirmed.
But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
Its not hacking to get over 10k, its running a proper setup. Take for example the scimitar, 5 fore beam arrays, 2 aft with the Kinetic Cutting Beam (mind that these are fleet) and 5 spire consoles for the appropriate damage type, is an easy 15k damage
TheGrateLordeCheesus Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM Doesn't Owe AnyoneEC Kirks Prot
Its not hacking to get over 10k, its running a proper setup. Take for example the scimitar, 5 fore beam arrays, 2 aft with the Kinetic Cutting Beam (mind that these are fleet) and 5 spire consoles for the appropriate damage type, is an easy 15k damage
I think that was a great idea but like always realy wrong people to do it, a few bad moves :
- they're posting "basic/beginner" build with a2b setup only,
- & still asking people to use multiple copies of abilities without explaining.
- parsing with a non STO dedicated soft which need beta (alpha) plugs that all are giving different numbers from eachothers and most of it prety hard to setup for a beginner.
- and the most ilarious but not the last one they dont alow copy past of parsing in team....
By the way, A2B isnt the only good setup in game and surely not the cheapest one (probably the most pricy one)...
and not even usable on most escorts and sci ships. So why chose to stick with that one only ?
this is nonsense.
Spencer96 & hpgibbs know me well for not using A2b on most of my chars and still doing +25k DPS in STFs like ISE, CSE, KSE....
that is with engineers chars btw.
And I swear I dont know how to trick parser or do cheat they're talking about with that impossible +10k DPS.
Even my 100k ground skills KDF eng which I dont change traits when I do space STFs, usualy do around 15k - 20 k DPS with green weapons, blue mk xi tac consoles, no fleet stuff at all.
anyway, just to tell that I'm far from being good or God in PVE/PVP but looking on how this great idea is turning and who is using it...
I would have expected some people at least with twice the modest knowledge I have of game mechanics.
I feel prety sad for those new players that will folow their lead....
Dark Side (KDF)
HOUSE OF BORG
"I am FLATULUS of Borg, Resistance if Futile! Prepare to pull my finger!"
http://www.omegaprimary.com/beam-torpedo/
This is a "beginner level 50" build they offer, something they say is easy and cheap to get. For the length of the class they offer, it is by no means cheap, these people will want to get it up and running as soon as possible. For many veterans, this startup is cheap, but for a fresh level 50? not nearly so. its a minimum startup cost (just for the doffs) is 10 million energy credits. Now factor in decent armament, consoles and the like, its approaches 20 million. Everyone hyping about plasmionic leach? lets bring it to 50 million. So while A2B is a good build, its not viable for a fresh level 50. You can get the free purple technicians from the B'Tran cluster missions, but that takes about 2 weeks to get the doffs (more depending on the frequency of play, these weekend players will take months for that) Non-A2B builds are the best to teach for this, yet all they teach is A2B.
also.... look at that build..... Cannon Rapid Fire 1 with no cannons on the build.
TheGrateLordeCheesus Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM Doesn't Owe AnyoneEC Kirks Prot
By the way, A2B isnt the only good setup in game and surely not the cheapest one (probably the most pricy one)...
Pricy ??? I understand that you don't like A2b and you have my respect for that but ... are you a veteran and have you never heard of the B'Tran Cluster ?
Do you know another reason why it is so popular, apart from the gcd, the smashing spacebar "effort" and energy spikes of course ... ?
Because it's damn cheap ... you just need to sit in b'tran cluster, doing the chain doffing assignment and waiting for the crits and you don't need to spend ... let's see ... 30 or 60 millions for the attack pattern doff, another good bunch of millions, I forgot how many for the energy weapons officer doff, all purple of course ... talking about a scimitar now.
Perfect for a casual player.
Btw, that Avenger build I've seen before from that link with turrets and beams is horrible ...
The first problem here is that there is no such ability as A2B. Written out, that's Aux Two Battery. Unless you think the ability is Auxiliary Power to the Number Two Emergency Battery? Either way, you're wrong. It's ATB. Get it right or pay the price.
ATB is popular for all the wrong reasons. It's nearly necessary for some ships like the Galaxy-X. On others, it's a waste of potential. Using ATB gives up the Nukara T4 reputation passives that are so crucial in S9 for additional DPS and staying power.
It's great for PvP, but I have a hard time imagining it hitting 30k.
FYI, The MACO shield cancels out plasmonic leach in case you didn't know. So, NEVER run the two together.
But, more importantly, we all know that no one can get above 10k dps--unless they are hacking their combatlog to fool the parser. Furthermore, it is also widely known that you should never use 5 DHC's up front as the game engine is incapable of firing them all off, so you waste a forward weapon. Much better to use a torpedo or beam array in that 5th spot.
I swear, so many trolls in this game. How on earth is a new player ever going to sort it all out?
I never said you coud use both plasmonic leach and the maco shield together.......read again carefully...you missed the ( Or ) part
our parsers must be broken they have recorded much more than 10k dps all of the time for over a year now..................
as far as the 5 DHC the weapons shows its firing......the clock hand turns showing its firing so without going into slow motion to see it the clock hands showing its firing is good enough for me on a total energy build
by the way your groups patethic attemptes at trolling show just how inexperenced your entire group is
make a build without no rep no lobi no zen no advanced gear for a new player with a few hundred thousand ec to equip his ship and allow him to survive a stf without blowing up several times
you dont start out on the top.....you start out on the bottom...the ignorance i see from the gibbs group shows this plainly
i bet you dont even know how powerful the accolades are ...do you offer training in that ? I bet once you wiki it you will be experts on it huh ?
what i see is patethic trolling by those who have forget what it means to be brand new in the game
almost all of the counterdvice ive read is for players who are a long way past being new and level 50 in the game..
Remember this boot camp is for them...not advanced players
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Pricy ??? I understand that you don't like A2b and you have my respect for that but ... are you a veteran and have you never heard of the B'Tran Cluster ?
Do you know another reason why it is so popular, apart from the gcd, the smashing spacebar "effort" and energy spikes of course ... ?
Because it's damn cheap ... you just need to sit in b'tran cluster, doing the chain doffing assignment and waiting for the crits and you don't need to spend ... let's see ... 30 or 60 millions for the attack pattern doff, another good bunch of millions, I forgot how many for the energy weapons officer doff, all purple of course ... talking about a scimitar now.
Perfect for a casual player.
Btw, that Avenger build I've seen before from that link with turrets and beams is horrible ...
I think u didnt get what I meant on that one :
Sure B'tran cluster will get u purple tech on critic (not always btw, critic can get u a blue one too). but this missions has a +24/48h CD which means you'll have t wait at least +2 weeks (if you are Lucky) so basicaly what I meant is you are not going to do a PVE boot camp and ask new players to wait and come back in +2 weeks.
And yes pricy cause if u want them right now, like I told someone else earlier in game it's 2.4 Million EC / blue technician when it's only 180k for a blue DCE.
for other doffs, my op is that you realy dont need to spend that much for beginner... 3DCE + 2 CO blue is realy more than enough to do realy decent dmg for any cruiser or escort builds.(less than 1.2 Millions EC).
oh and btw I'm also using a2b on my tacs chars to get a bit more power but mostly on PVP, didnt noticed much diff
Dark Side (KDF)
HOUSE OF BORG
"I am FLATULUS of Borg, Resistance if Futile! Prepare to pull my finger!"
by the way your groups patethic attemptes at trolling show just how inexperenced your entire group is
what i see is patethic trolling by those who have forget what it means to be brand new in the game
Remember this boot camp is for them...not advanced players
What people will find more patethic here is that you cannot accept being wrong about many things and are going to lead beginners in a wall realy fast.
I admit some here have been rude from start but hey ! you wanna go public, teach some stuff ? be ready for it sir & accept it
if you cannot admit when you are wrong, imagine if everyone you try to teach anything is doing like you... I'm not clairvoyant but I can already predict you a big mess around !
have fun anyway
Dark Side (KDF)
HOUSE OF BORG
"I am FLATULUS of Borg, Resistance if Futile! Prepare to pull my finger!"
As for the builds being bad, we're not saying you need better or more expensive equipment, they are TRIBBLE because of simple things like running 2 copies of an ability when you have A2B, or mixing cannons and beam arrays etc... mistakes that even noobs shouldn't make, yet you somehow think yourself good enough to teach other people - and infest our new players with such malpractice...
What people will find more patethic here is that you cannot accept being wrong about many things and are going to lead beginners in a wall realy fast.
I admit some here have been rude from start but hey ! you wanna go public, teach some stuff ? be ready for it sir & accept it
if you cannot admit when you are wrong, imagine if everyone you try to teach anything is doing like you... I'm not clairvoyant but I can already predict you a big mess around !
have fun anyway
wrong about what ?...have any of you been in my class and heard what i teach......no you havent ..not one of you
I see the Gibbs group pointing out lot of things that have nothing to do with teaching a new player the basics...as i have pointed out
When Mr Gibbs was in our teamspeak and if he had listened more and talked less he would understand a lot more than he does
Frankley someone who cant top 5k DPS in a jem Hadar attack ship doesnt impress me a lot when my cruiser tank is pushing much more than that
Mr Gibbs wanst considered seasoned enough to teach new players the basics...his posts clearly point that out time and again as well..............His performance in the sTFs we conducted showed it as well.
any builds posted on the web site arnt even used in the class.......wow didnt know that huh
Because every student has a differnt ship Race and needs dependent on his current equipment and ship as well as his skills.....which usuallay are a total mess
not to mention lack of dilithium/zen/EC
you can offer broad advice but each student has differnt needs and the instructor has to be able to adapt to his students needs for that student to benifit from the class
imo Mr gibbs did not have this requirement to be a instructor ( Adaptability )
And that and that alone is what this smear campaign is all about................
and point out anything I am wrong about in the context of this class....especially because you havent attended the class..I will find your conclusions most interesting based on your totlal lack of knowledge of what your talking about
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
And as Oricolawle linked above. Porchsong has the 5th highest DPS ever recorded, and he is one of the Admins of the DPS channels.
Akkkkk. . .. .I've been outed!!!
But, you should have realized that with my last sentence that I was trolling.
Now back to reality. . . .
First, I did 16k with my avenger with what came on the ship when unboxed with simple "fill-in's" of TRIBBLE white/green gear--just to show people you can. So yes, you can do significant dps without ubergear.
Now for the builds offered here, they are "anti" dps builds focused entirely on the wrong things. You see, if you are going to be a dps'r, then be the best dps'r you can be and be pure dps. Same with sci, same with eng. When you try to be "all around" you end up being mediocre. Hyperfocus. Your best defense as a dps'r is overwhelming offense--kill them before they can shoot back.
As for teaching, we have been doing "boot-camps" for well over a year. I have done whiteboards with Teamspeak explanations numerous times. Just taking one of our builds and jumping into an stf without understanding what you are doing, and how things work in synergy is foolish. What we do has taken time, massive testing, tons of practice. That is how we did ISE in 61 seconds, start to finish.
But, it is disturbing to see threads that teach people the wrong things. Although I appreciate the thread for making the attempt--so kuddos. But, spreading ignorance only makes for massive re-training in the dps channels--and it gets old.
We are not and have never been elitist in our channels--in fact we kick people we see that are. Our ethos has always been to help others--not just give them builds (which we freely do), but help them understand why we built them the way we do. Then they have a base from which they themselves can build off of.
But, I wouldn't listen to me. . . .I'm just a troll. . . .
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Doesn't Owe Anyone EC
Kirks Prot
http://www.omegaprimary.com/dpsguide/
Lets look through this for DOFF requirements they have
they say to not put anything in tac consoles slots, yet if you look through their builds they do
Tell you to spend 52 million energy credits on a Marion doff... yet they don't have you put DEM on... if youre running a proper aux to bat, you don't need that energy weapons officer for a chance to reduce cooldown on special beam attacks.
If you're going to have people spend EC on doffs, get Keel'El
Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM
Doesn't Owe Anyone EC
Kirks Prot
OMFG: http://www.omegaprimary.com/avenger-basic-build/
B4 you start teaching people, make sure you actually have a effin clue about what you're talking about first... your courses are probably why the general player base is so hopelessly bad at PVE in this game.
If this is a serious thread then the coaches need to learn how to actually play the game before they try to teach others. Good god.
I missed the first two classes. Stuff came up IRL, long sorry. I'm likely not going to be making any. I'll try to be there next time, though. If there is one.
Oh and icegavel, don't take any advice from them. they know not what they're doing. Talk to people who know how to play the game. Nova Core comes to mind, RedditAlert, TBC, and others. The help you'll get is far superior than anything the bootcamp will offer.
Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM
Doesn't Owe Anyone EC
Kirks Prot
FYI, The MACO shield cancels out plasmonic leach in case you didn't know. So, NEVER run the two together.
But, more importantly, we all know that no one can get above 10k dps--unless they are hacking their combatlog to fool the parser. Furthermore, it is also widely known that you should never use 5 DHC's up front as the game engine is incapable of firing them all off, so you waste a forward weapon. Much better to use a torpedo or beam array in that 5th spot.
I swear, so many trolls in this game. How on earth is a new player ever going to sort it all out?
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Please make sure you're not spouting provably false bad advice before claiming other people are trolling.
It used to be true, it's been fixed for ages now though.
Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM
Doesn't Owe Anyone EC
Kirks Prot
I think that was a great idea but like always realy wrong people to do it, a few bad moves :
- they're posting "basic/beginner" build with a2b setup only,
- & still asking people to use multiple copies of abilities without explaining.
- parsing with a non STO dedicated soft which need beta (alpha) plugs that all are giving different numbers from eachothers and most of it prety hard to setup for a beginner.
- and the most ilarious but not the last one they dont alow copy past of parsing in team....
By the way, A2B isnt the only good setup in game and surely not the cheapest one (probably the most pricy one)...
and not even usable on most escorts and sci ships. So why chose to stick with that one only ?
this is nonsense.
Spencer96 & hpgibbs know me well for not using A2b on most of my chars and still doing +25k DPS in STFs like ISE, CSE, KSE....
that is with engineers chars btw.
And I swear I dont know how to trick parser or do cheat they're talking about with that impossible +10k DPS.
Even my 100k ground skills KDF eng which I dont change traits when I do space STFs, usualy do around 15k - 20 k DPS with green weapons, blue mk xi tac consoles, no fleet stuff at all.
anyway, just to tell that I'm far from being good or God in PVE/PVP but looking on how this great idea is turning and who is using it...
I would have expected some people at least with twice the modest knowledge I have of game mechanics.
I feel prety sad for those new players that will folow their lead....
This is a "beginner level 50" build they offer, something they say is easy and cheap to get. For the length of the class they offer, it is by no means cheap, these people will want to get it up and running as soon as possible. For many veterans, this startup is cheap, but for a fresh level 50? not nearly so. its a minimum startup cost (just for the doffs) is 10 million energy credits. Now factor in decent armament, consoles and the like, its approaches 20 million. Everyone hyping about plasmionic leach? lets bring it to 50 million. So while A2B is a good build, its not viable for a fresh level 50. You can get the free purple technicians from the B'Tran cluster missions, but that takes about 2 weeks to get the doffs (more depending on the frequency of play, these weekend players will take months for that) Non-A2B builds are the best to teach for this, yet all they teach is A2B.
also.... look at that build..... Cannon Rapid Fire 1 with no cannons on the build.
Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM
Doesn't Owe Anyone EC
Kirks Prot
Maybe the Cannon RF1 is only for enemies, so they get it and kill u faster ?
troll mode off :
Ship build coordinator for The Breakfast Club http://WWW.TBCSTO.COM
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Kirks Prot
Pricy ??? I understand that you don't like A2b and you have my respect for that but ... are you a veteran and have you never heard of the B'Tran Cluster ?
Do you know another reason why it is so popular, apart from the gcd, the smashing spacebar "effort" and energy spikes of course ... ?
Because it's damn cheap ... you just need to sit in b'tran cluster, doing the chain doffing assignment and waiting for the crits and you don't need to spend ... let's see ... 30 or 60 millions for the attack pattern doff, another good bunch of millions, I forgot how many for the energy weapons officer doff, all purple of course ... talking about a scimitar now.
Perfect for a casual player.
Btw, that Avenger build I've seen before from that link with turrets and beams is horrible ...
ATB is popular for all the wrong reasons. It's nearly necessary for some ships like the Galaxy-X. On others, it's a waste of potential. Using ATB gives up the Nukara T4 reputation passives that are so crucial in S9 for additional DPS and staying power.
It's great for PvP, but I have a hard time imagining it hitting 30k.
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Member of DPS-30000
I never said you coud use both plasmonic leach and the maco shield together.......read again carefully...you missed the ( Or ) part
our parsers must be broken they have recorded much more than 10k dps all of the time for over a year now..................
as far as the 5 DHC the weapons shows its firing......the clock hand turns showing its firing so without going into slow motion to see it the clock hands showing its firing is good enough for me on a total energy build
by the way your groups patethic attemptes at trolling show just how inexperenced your entire group is
make a build without no rep no lobi no zen no advanced gear for a new player with a few hundred thousand ec to equip his ship and allow him to survive a stf without blowing up several times
you dont start out on the top.....you start out on the bottom...the ignorance i see from the gibbs group shows this plainly
i bet you dont even know how powerful the accolades are ...do you offer training in that ? I bet once you wiki it you will be experts on it huh ?
what i see is patethic trolling by those who have forget what it means to be brand new in the game
almost all of the counterdvice ive read is for players who are a long way past being new and level 50 in the game..
Remember this boot camp is for them...not advanced players
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
I think u didnt get what I meant on that one :
Sure B'tran cluster will get u purple tech on critic (not always btw, critic can get u a blue one too). but this missions has a +24/48h CD which means you'll have t wait at least +2 weeks (if you are Lucky) so basicaly what I meant is you are not going to do a PVE boot camp and ask new players to wait and come back in +2 weeks.
And yes pricy cause if u want them right now, like I told someone else earlier in game it's 2.4 Million EC / blue technician when it's only 180k for a blue DCE.
for other doffs, my op is that you realy dont need to spend that much for beginner... 3DCE + 2 CO blue is realy more than enough to do realy decent dmg for any cruiser or escort builds.(less than 1.2 Millions EC).
oh and btw I'm also using a2b on my tacs chars to get a bit more power but mostly on PVP, didnt noticed much diff
Hey just dropping this here, don't mind me.
http://i.imgur.com/MoeyuI8.jpg
Leader of Quantum Mechanics
Member of DPS-30000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BysyVyYzrMA
I'm quite inexperienced.
And as Oricolawle linked above. Porchsong has the 5th highest DPS ever recorded, and he is one of the Admins of the DPS channels.
What people will find more patethic here is that you cannot accept being wrong about many things and are going to lead beginners in a wall realy fast.
I admit some here have been rude from start but hey ! you wanna go public, teach some stuff ? be ready for it sir & accept it
if you cannot admit when you are wrong, imagine if everyone you try to teach anything is doing like you... I'm not clairvoyant but I can already predict you a big mess around !
have fun anyway
As for the builds being bad, we're not saying you need better or more expensive equipment, they are TRIBBLE because of simple things like running 2 copies of an ability when you have A2B, or mixing cannons and beam arrays etc... mistakes that even noobs shouldn't make, yet you somehow think yourself good enough to teach other people - and infest our new players with such malpractice...
But muh playstyle
Leader of Quantum Mechanics
Member of DPS-30000
wrong about what ?...have any of you been in my class and heard what i teach......no you havent ..not one of you
I see the Gibbs group pointing out lot of things that have nothing to do with teaching a new player the basics...as i have pointed out
When Mr Gibbs was in our teamspeak and if he had listened more and talked less he would understand a lot more than he does
Frankley someone who cant top 5k DPS in a jem Hadar attack ship doesnt impress me a lot when my cruiser tank is pushing much more than that
Mr Gibbs wanst considered seasoned enough to teach new players the basics...his posts clearly point that out time and again as well..............His performance in the sTFs we conducted showed it as well.
any builds posted on the web site arnt even used in the class.......wow didnt know that huh
Because every student has a differnt ship Race and needs dependent on his current equipment and ship as well as his skills.....which usuallay are a total mess
not to mention lack of dilithium/zen/EC
you can offer broad advice but each student has differnt needs and the instructor has to be able to adapt to his students needs for that student to benifit from the class
imo Mr gibbs did not have this requirement to be a instructor ( Adaptability )
And that and that alone is what this smear campaign is all about................
and point out anything I am wrong about in the context of this class....especially because you havent attended the class..I will find your conclusions most interesting based on your totlal lack of knowledge of what your talking about
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Akkkkk. . .. .I've been outed!!!
But, you should have realized that with my last sentence that I was trolling.
Now back to reality. . . .
First, I did 16k with my avenger with what came on the ship when unboxed with simple "fill-in's" of TRIBBLE white/green gear--just to show people you can. So yes, you can do significant dps without ubergear.
Now for the builds offered here, they are "anti" dps builds focused entirely on the wrong things. You see, if you are going to be a dps'r, then be the best dps'r you can be and be pure dps. Same with sci, same with eng. When you try to be "all around" you end up being mediocre. Hyperfocus. Your best defense as a dps'r is overwhelming offense--kill them before they can shoot back.
As for teaching, we have been doing "boot-camps" for well over a year. I have done whiteboards with Teamspeak explanations numerous times. Just taking one of our builds and jumping into an stf without understanding what you are doing, and how things work in synergy is foolish. What we do has taken time, massive testing, tons of practice. That is how we did ISE in 61 seconds, start to finish.
But, it is disturbing to see threads that teach people the wrong things. Although I appreciate the thread for making the attempt--so kuddos. But, spreading ignorance only makes for massive re-training in the dps channels--and it gets old.
We are not and have never been elitist in our channels--in fact we kick people we see that are. Our ethos has always been to help others--not just give them builds (which we freely do), but help them understand why we built them the way we do. Then they have a base from which they themselves can build off of.
But, I wouldn't listen to me. . . .I'm just a troll. . . .
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