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scrag0416scrag0416 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
I am considering this - but wanted to get some opinions on it first. Basically is it worth it at the sale price?
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'd say if you got $200 that you could literally throw away, really love Star Trek, and intend on playing the game for a long time no matter what nonsensical thing Cryptic does, I'd say go for it.

    Otherwise, save your money. Or use it on something more worthwhile to you.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    hypl wrote: »
    I'd say if you got $200 that you could literally throw away, really love Star Trek, and intend on playing the game for a long time no matter what nonsensical thing Cryptic does, I'd say go for it.

    Otherwise, save your money. Or use it on something more worthwhile to you.

    As another lifer.

    This. ^^

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    as another lifer I would still recommend lifetime sub while its at sale price, I play STO a lot and still enjoy most of it, I just avoid playing the bits that don't appeal to me so much.
    I believe theres still a lot of life in the game and lots more updates on the horizon, some of it will be good I am sure, some of it might not appeal to everyone but while there is this level of support from the devs I am sure the game will be around for a long time to come.

    if you are playing STO more then a few hours a week and still enjoy most of it as I do then you will not be sorry to pay the sale price of STO lifetime sub and I am sure you will get your moneys worth for a long time to come.

    check here for a full breakdown of the rewards you receive when you go lifetime, you get them all instantly and don't have to wait the 1000 days like monthly subbers do.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Veteran_Rewards

    and check here for a full breakdown of the value of the rewards compared to the cost of subs.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/User:Eklinaar/Subscriber_benefits_breakdown

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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited June 2014
    So be smart. Don't let the prejudices of complete strangers trick you into making a bad financial decision. Only you know what Gold/LTS perks you'll get the most use from and if the value of those perks outweigh the cost of the LTS.

    This. Great advice, and great breakdown!

    Once I learned about LTS, many on here recommended I wait for a sale. I did, and I had a little money set aside for it. Once the sale hit, I jumped. Very happy about it.

    Now, will I still be happy 6 months from now? 12 months? I hope so! The monthly ZEN will certainly help... Scimitar or Vesta pack, here I come! :D
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I like STO enough that I have set aside some money to buy the LTS.

    Unfortunately, I will have to postpone doing so since something rather expensive broke and I need a lot of money to replace it fast... So I will likely buy the LTS the next time it goes on sale which I think happens twice per year.

    There are a lot of benefits to getting a LTS so as long as you think you are getting a good value then go for it. sopwithsnipe has already listed many benefits. When you go LTS you get 500 Zen per month; or as stated $60 worth of Zen per year which is great for just buying stuff even if it is just master keys. Paying $200 to get $60 worth of Zen per year is a 30% return on your "investment". That means after 40 months you will get back $200 worth of Zen; thus break even. Will the game last another 40 months? Hard to say. But keep in mind this is on top of the other benefits you get.

    If you are not sure, then you can just subscribe to the game for 1 month which provides it's own benefits. You will get 500 Zen for paying $15 to sub for one month. You also get the following which are permanent even after you cancel your one month subscription:

    - Additional Toon Slot
    - Respec token you received when your level up to the next rank when subscribed. Max level toons gets nothing 'cuz they can't level up anymore.
    - 6 additional bank / inventory slots for each rank. You will have 90 slots instead of 60 slots at max level. This is separate from the slots you buy using Zen.
    - 4 additional Boff slots.
    - Account Bank with 20 slots

    Not sure if you get any additional ship slots.


    I started a one month subscription just a few days before the LTS went on sale 'cuz I wanted the extra bank / inventory slots. Had I known about the sale I would not have subscribed. Anyway, that doesn't change the fact that I need to redirect the money I put aside for the LTS towards something more urgent.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Don't listen to the haters.

    Don't listen to the fanbois either.

    Instead do some research and check the math then decide if an LTS is right for you.

    Right now the LTS costs $200 bucks. Now go over the Gold/LTS perks and add up what you value.

    For example:


    Golds get $60 bucks worth of free Zen each year


    Do you use a lot of respecs? Golds get 5 free respecs per character as they level. That's a $25 value per character and LTS's get an additional 4 respecs for another $20 bucks you don't have to spend.


    Do you like costumes? Theres three vet costume sets worth roughly $15 bucks total.


    Want more ships? You get access to three (Chimera Heavy Destroyer (Fed), Peghqu’ Heavy Destroyer (KDF), Daeinos Heavy Destroyer (Rom)) which would sell for $25 bucks each if they were on the C-Store. As well as one of three free shuttles (Captain's Yacht (Fed), DujHod Chariot (KDF) and Commander's Gig (Rom)) valued at $5 bucks


    Each character gets a free Android Boff valued at $5 bucks per character.


    You also get other stuff listed here, here, and here.


    Some people never regret buying their LTS while others will never see any value in buying an LTS.


    So be smart. Don't let the prejudices of complete strangers trick you into making a bad financial decision. Only you know what Gold/LTS perks you'll get the most use from and if the value of those perks outweigh the cost of the LTS.

    I like your math. For someone with one character it will take a little over a year to get back the base value of a sale LTS. But someone like me with 20+ characters ends up ahead of the curve.

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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    scrag0416 wrote: »
    I am considering this - but wanted to get some opinions on it first. Basically is it worth it at the sale price?

    It depends, if you often see yourself playing this game, don't mind the changes, and would like to play as a liberated Borg, along with getting the goodies, by all means take advantage of the 200 dollar sale. Just don't sacrifice your energy bill or grocery for the month for it. :P

    However; if you see yourself only playing casually, logging in here and there, or see yourself not playing in the long run, then don't bother. The 500 zen a month stipend is not even worth it either.
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  • zbzznzbzzn Member Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    If you spend money on something, it is by definition not free. Using the term "free" in this manner reeks of marketing weasel wording.
  • jarodroto123jarodroto123 Member Posts: 1,337 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    zbzzn wrote: »
    If you spend money on something, it is by definition not free. Using the term "free" in this manner reeks of marketing weasel wording.

    Care to do something contructive? I didnt think so
  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    scrag0416 wrote: »
    I am considering this - but wanted to get some opinions on it first. Basically is it worth it at the sale price?
    $200 is a lot of scratch to invest in a game. Having said that, I have spent that much, and probably quite a bit more, easily just on zen and subbing. EDIT Obviously not all at once though.

    I deleted a huge long effortpost because I felt I was being too negative. Ultimately, whether you think it's 'worth it' or not is up to you. The stipend will take years to 'break even' with the upfront cost, but if you want zen then you could just buy $200 worth. The other vet rewards vary between 'useful' to 'cosmetic'. Individually, it's hard to justify the upfront cost, but collectively? Only you can determine that, it's your money after all.

    The game might last years, or it might hit a brick wall in the next 12 months. It's successful enough for a second expansion pack to be developed, so I think the game will last at least for the time it will take the stipend to break even. That may or may not matter to you though.
  • zbzznzbzzn Member Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Spoken like a person who can't refute the facts presented against his point of view. :P

    What point of view? I noted a bias in your tone, nothing more.
  • siobhaninsiobhanin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    If I had to make the decision whether to spend the money or not right now, I would wait until it is clearer where Cryptic is going with the game. I thought I had a pretty good idea, but with the introduction of the new crafting system I am not sure anymore. If this is going to develop into what Neverwinter already is, I would feel like an idiot for spending the money on a LTS to only then find out that crafting etc. are now pretty much pay to win. Sure you get a ship and all the other rewards, but you will still have to spend additional money to go anywhere in the game.

    Another thing to consider is that they might eventually offer the LTS rewards individually in the shop or for free to other players. In Neverwinter for example, anyone can be a drow now - you had to buy the 200 $ pack when the game came out to be one. They didn't even give the free drow another class skill. The same is true for the spider mount. The shop mount's coloring is a bit different, but the skin design is the same. STO is slowly moving into that direction too with the Dyson Klingon and Romulan ships being recolored LTS ships.
  • hatax2hatax2 Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Been a lurker on the forums here for a bit, and recently I picked up the LTS (actually the day it went on sale as I had been waiting for it)

    There's some nice bonuses in there but it's not anything that makes the game that much more enjoyable. The win for me was getting the veteran rewards all at once as since I'm late to the game it's the only way to get those rewards at this point.

    I felt I got a good value for my spend, the only expansions I had done to my account was the bank and inventory add ons. About 2 months ago I had picked up the gold subscription for the account add-ons, but other than that I have only put zen into some C-Store ships.

    My other alts now have a nice ship without needing to buy anything, it's not as good as most of the C-Store ships but it's better than being stuck with a T4 ship or mirror class vessel from the exchange.

    As everyone else has said, you have to weigh if it's worth it or not for yourself, if you're into the game and don't think you'll be leaving within a year or two I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
  • scrag0416scrag0416 Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I appreciate the replies to my question - both sides of the coin provided some insight.
    Thanks again!
  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    scrag0416 wrote: »
    I appreciate the replies to my question - both sides of the coin provided some insight.
    Thanks again!
    So what did you end up deciding?
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,698 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Don't forget the liberated borg character is unlocked as well
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