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Is a lifetime subscription worth it and how long do you think the game will live?
deathwolf696
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Well guys I am looking at grabbing a lifetime subscription but I want to know what are the ships like to use, are the respecs and extra ship and costume tokens an intensive or an an insult, are the 2 extra charters going to keep me playing or just introduce boredom but most importantly of all is that Android bridge officer whistling "Pop Goes the Weasel"?
Another worry is as the game is a good few years old what is the expected shelf life, is it going to be like Star Wars Galaxies and get pulled even with the fans wanting more or turn out like WoW that doesnt look like it will die while it still brings cash into the owners?
While I love the game and I want to support it I don't want to feel short changed as I don't normally put money into the MMOs I play.
Another worry is as the game is a good few years old what is the expected shelf life, is it going to be like Star Wars Galaxies and get pulled even with the fans wanting more or turn out like WoW that doesnt look like it will die while it still brings cash into the owners?
While I love the game and I want to support it I don't want to feel short changed as I don't normally put money into the MMOs I play.
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Considering even "Champions Online" is still running, my guess is we have at least 2 more years of STO ... but there is no guarantee there ...
PS : Got my LTS during Beta, lots of people calling me an idiot, because the game wouldn't last 6 months yadda yadda ... it was worth it then, because I would've had to pay Sub for 2 years anyway ... not sure if I would get one now, though [besides the 500 Zen Stipend, all of the Perks are just "nice gimmicks"]
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The extras just don't amount to that much. I bought my LTS in long ago days of yore, and I don't really use much of it regularly, except for the android boff. A healer that can come back from the dead? Handy dandy, but even that can be gotten (Voth boff) by just playing the game these days. The vet ships I think I used once or twice and never looked back, the Borg unlock I only took to max once to feel like I at least used it. As for the 500 a month? I can trade more dilithium than that in one play session if I really wanted to.
And there is the only real bonus of the subscription brought out :P
At the mo I have to say yes, as I am not able to put lots of time into the game to get dil to turn into Zen.
Even if the game was not doing well (and I think it does well, considering they are working on an expansion and we get regular season updates), I would expect it too last even longer than that, though I really don't know how long. Champions Online is still around, too, and it seems to be in much worse shape.
I can't tell you if you still want to play the game in 2 years, but I think it will be around for that. I myself took a 2 year (or so) hiatus from the game, and now I am back. I figure other people will go through similar phases, lifetime or no lifetime.
As for the LTS, it's simple really. Do you enjoy STO and see yourself playing it in the long term? Do you have the funds and are willing to spend that much for the benefits it offers? If yes to both, then grab it if it fancies you.
Personally, I love mine. One of the better decisions I've made.
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I think the next expansion will be the last. after that a series lock boxes and small updates as the player base dwindles down, much like we see in Champs now.
The LTS has lost its value since the game went F2P and if I was getting my LTS now instead of in beta when I got it, then I would put in a lot more thought into buying it and most likely determining that it was not worth it than buying it on an impulse. After all, I purchased the LTS as a method to save money in the long run and the LTS bonuses didn't even come into my reason for purchasing it. I saw myself playing STO for years and figured $240 was a lot cheaper than $15 per month for 4 years.
The extra bridge officer slots are very useful.
The extra character slots are quite useful.
Obviously, the extra 500zen monthly is great.
Account storage is super useful.
Getting rid of the energy credit cap too.
Everything here can be ground out, but the $$ you are spending is to save you all that in game effort, so you have to decide if that is worth it to you.
I have been playing since closed beta and there as always been doubt about the game continuing .
I think now im finally ready to do it but don't have the money xD so next time there is a sale i will.
Not to mention so long as STO is PWE's most profitable product.
system Lord Baal is dead
Which series, that died when?
Yep, still happy with my Lifetime sub. Bought it shortly after the Romulus expansion dropped. The stipend is nice, the android Boff is useful, the lvl 50 ship token was really useful for my KDF science toon, having Borg captain is just neat.
Keep calm, and continue firing photon torpedoes.
Having not played the game for the last 5 months, I guess it's nice to know it is still available now that I've come back.
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I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
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It's younger than I am. :cool:
I Was A Trekkie Before It Was Cool ... Sept. 8th, 1966 ... Not To Mention Before Most Folks Around Here Were Born!
Forever a STO Veteran-Minion
If you're one of those people with countless characters and a love for pets and gadgets, then yeah, you'll probably have the benefits. If however you're more like me, play with limited characters and don't use pets or the awful looking lifetime ships, then no, it's not really worth it at all.
[QUOTE=deathwolf696;17592501How long do you think the game will live?[/QUOTE]I predict another 5 years minimum. That said, I can see the community haven dropped significantly by then too, especially if Expansion #2 (and Seasons #10, #11 and #12 etc) are more of the same. We need different things to take us forward now, not more dull grinding or power creep which seemingly is what we're getting.
I am probably more than a casual player (I said more than a casual player, not necessarily a better one, but I try). For me, STO is my main hobby. I like it. How much a person wants spend on their hobbies is a question only they can answer. For me, the LTS is worth it.
As to how long the game will be around, who can say? It's difficult to predict the future. I hope the game will be around forever. It is reasonable for the OP to be concerned about paying money only to have the game shut down before he gets his money's worth but that is one of those things in life that no one can predict. I bought a fine and quite expensive set of golf clubs awhile back but then, due to some neurological problems I developed, I can't play golf anymore. I only got to use the clubs twice before my golf hobby ability "shut down". I ended up just going to a golf shop parking lot and giving the clubs to some goofball college kid who walked out. The look on that kid's face (after I assured him that the clubs weren't stolen) was easily worth the price of the clubs.
If you can afford an LTS without falling behind on your bills and if you enjoy playing STO, then the LTS would be worth it.
Heh.. aren't you supposed to be in the DOOM thread?? :P
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Just remember: It wasn't a good enough deal last time, and now the game has one less season's worth of life left in it, however much that may be. It is otherwise the same deal as last time: You will get nothing extra by buying now that you wouldn't have gotten buying last time. Why, therefore, would less of something sold at the same price as before be a better deal than the one you rejected last time?
Make up your own mind, but hey don't listen to me I am one of those strangers.
If someone is going to ask a bunch of strangers what to do with their money they deserve to lose it. The information you are getting is no more valid then if you went to a fortune teller and asked them. Heck, some of the people saying the game has a year or two left were the same people who said the game would not last 6 months after it launched - and you see how accurate they were then.
I posted this last year for folks asking a similar question. This is going from F2P to LTS what the perks would be... clearly the value to you is only what you use from this list. If you took advantage of all the benefits offered then of course it will certainly pay for itself. I know a lot of folks say the game wont be around but they have been saying that since the beginning. I've had a sub since March 2010 and then an LTS in June 2010. I think the game is doing better than it has done in terms of users and staffing or I wouldn't have bought a 2nd LTS last year for my partner.
If nothing else here is what you get and it's rough value... it pays for itself and then some as well as paying you back $5 per month in zen.
ZEN ITEM
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600z (zen) Playable Federation Liberated Borg character (Only LTS can obtain)
600z Playable Klingon Liberated Borg character (Only LTS can obtain)
Costume Pieces:
550z Special Veteran Jacket Option
Special Veteran Uniform Option (Silver Jupiter Variant)
Special Veteran Uniform Option (Gold Jupiter Variant)
550z Klingon Shoulder Pads and Cape
Starships:
2500z Chimera Heavy Destroyer (1000 day vet)
2500z Pehgqu' Heavy Destroyer (1000 day vet)
2500z Romulan Vet Ship
500z Captain's Yacht/Chariot
2500z Free Ship at Starfleet Vice Admiral
2500z Free Ship at KDF Lieutenant General
2500z Free Ship at Romulan VA
Assorted:
300z Mugato Companion
500z Android Bridge Officer
2000z 4 Additional Starship Slots
500z 2 Additional Costume Slots
1065z 4 Additional Character Slots
5000z 10 Respecs (Per character)
2000z 20 account shared bank slots
1500z 60 additional bank slot per character
1600Z 72 additional INVENTORY SLOTS (PER CHARACTER)
500z Energy Credit Increase (1 billion EC)
Unvalued items:
Captain's Table Access
Firework Ship Emote
Veteran Starship Material
Alternative Future Comm Badge
lifetime comm badge
Dilithium Refining Boost Doff Assignment
5% Skill Point and Expertise Boost
5% Team Skill and Expertise Boost
Priority Login, Full Chat/Mail Access, Full Customer Service Access, No ads in voice chat, No limitations for fleet creation.
Titles:
Stalwart
Redoubtable
Dauntless
Valiant
Relentless
Magnificent
Impressive
Vigilant
Guardian
Starfleet/Empire Veteran
Career Officer
That's nearly 30,000 zen in easily valued benefits besides the unvalued items. So over $250 in perks and $5 in zen back every month. I didn't even multiply out all the other benefits when you consider they are per character. It can be a lot up front but between the perks and the zen stipend each month you most likely recoup your cost in the first year if you are a frequent player.
Lifetime Sub since June 2010