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New Griefing: Undine Inflitration, Cover shields to prevent you from completing

ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
Sadly I got caught by this a-hole.

He lured us into the holodeck first, catching 3 of us behind the cover shield. "There this great new content in here".

I should have known better.

Some time later we're auto-transported to the tunnels. At the last junction, up come the cover shield over the the entrance.

14 minutes later, he gets bored of himself and leaves.

Thankfully 1 guy remained after waiting for the griefers to leave.

We finished - nuff said. Have a video of the incident if any devs care ;(

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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Yeah, I made a thread about his last night (and got quickly derailed :rolleyes:).

    Not sure if the team is working on it, but needless to say this might lead to a serious CS nerf. :(
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Maybe covershield will become noclip to friendlies.
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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Making it noclip to friendlies would eliminate a lot of the jumping fun. They should just make the covershield universally targetable. Make it an "enemy" to everyone.

    Or make it expire and vanish after 30 seconds or so. There's no need for it to last 5 minutes, if you're using it in combat you'll have long since moved on.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Making it noclip to friendlies would eliminate a lot of the jumping fun.
    I'm not sure the "jumping fun" is necessarily a truly desirable outcome.
    They should just make the covershield universally targetable. Make it an "enemy" to everyone.
    Making it shootable by everyone would certainly make things more interesting.
    Or make it expire and vanish after 30 seconds or so. There's no need for it to last 5 minutes, if you're using it in combat you'll have long since moved on.
    This would severely undermine its functionality, namely, for you to cower behind it while your abilities recharge so you can fight again. If it simply WENT AWAY in a few seconds without your enemy having to DO anything, it would be sort of useless as a mobile fortification.
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  • jaegernljaegernl Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'm pretty sure the 'naming and shaming' applies to video's too. You're probably going to want to edit it out.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Ah, the name in that video does not surprise me.
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  • rifter1969rifter1969 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I too got this last night also... same person....

    Too bad I didn't see this before hand... I bit the bullet and took the leaver penalty...

    It is really is horrible that people get the jollies off by doing things like this.
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Well there is a process to report this behavior and there is proof of action against the offender.
  • acrosscatacrosscat Member Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Ah, the name in that video does not surprise me.
    Well there is a process to report this behavior and there is proof of action against the offender.

    The problem is, I too can make a character named xtern1ty and implicate them into behaviour with a slideshow video.

    This is why we don't name and shame.
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  • technical42ndtechnical42nd Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    acrosscat wrote: »
    The problem is, I too can make a character named xtern1ty and implicate them into behaviour with a slideshow video.

    This is why we don't name and shame.

    Exactly. This video could be nothing more than a smear campaign by someone with a grudge. We cannot simply jump to conclusions without all the evidence.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Exactly. This video could be nothing more than a smear campaign by someone with a grudge. We cannot simply jump to conclusions without all the evidence.

    Mighty dedicated smear campaign, that's all I'm sayin'...
  • technical42ndtechnical42nd Member Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    What you see as dedication I see as a simple afternoon of effort.

    1. Rename engineering character
    2. Create similar costume to your target
    3. Join public queues with an accomplice to record video.

    Those three steps right there are a good reason why naming and shaming are against the rules.

    A smear campaign can be put together in a very short time. The video evidence is suspect at best.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Mighty dedicated smear campaign, that's all I'm sayin'...

    Considering who the person in question works with..not really a smear campaign..
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Making it noclip to friendlies would eliminate a lot of the jumping fun. They should just make the covershield universally targetable. Make it an "enemy" to everyone.

    Or make it expire and vanish after 30 seconds or so. There's no need for it to last 5 minutes, if you're using it in combat you'll have long since moved on.

    Kind of ****ing stupid to do that and defeats the purpose of Cover Shield to provide some sort of hard cover when everything out there is hitting it, esp. players with their multitude of AOE attacks.

    And 30 seconds is far too short considering how long the recharge is for Cover Shield.

    Terrible, terrible idea.
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Making it noclip to friendlies would eliminate a lot of the jumping fun. They should just make the covershield universally targetable. Make it an "enemy" to everyone.

    This isn't a solution at all, now the shield user will be griefed so you can have "jumping fun", how is that desirable?

    The cover shield should have no collision for allies. Not even because of the ability to grief with it, but because I've accidentally trapped teammates I was trying to protect in it. It's just a poorly designed ability.
  • redvengeredvenge Member Posts: 1,425 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    This isn't a solution at all, now the shield user will be griefed so you can have "jumping fun", how is that desirable?

    The cover shield should have no collision for allies. Not even because of the ability to grief with it, but because I've accidentally trapped teammates I was trying to protect in it. It's just a poorly designed ability.

    Perhaps change it to be similar to Force Field Dome; give a resistance buff to you and allies on one side of it? Make it a little larger so that it can protect more than one or two people huddled behind it?

    With all the intentional and accidental issues that crop up from Cover Shield, I think it needs to be "remastered".
  • grimrak1grimrak1 Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    Considering who the person in question works with..not really a smear campaign..

    Of course you think that. Whenever the fleet in question is mentioned, there's Ashkrik pointing his furry finger and engaging in the smear campaign. :rolleyes:
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    But you know what? I guess it doesn't matter now does it? By being allowed to visit their studios Cryptic has pretty much signed off on you and your fleet haven't they? They've said in deed what most of us have suspected for years. They're not going to stop you. They're not going to correct you. You won. After long last, you really, really won. STO is yours and no one is going to do a thing about it. Congratulations.
  • ddesjardinsddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps
    edited June 2014
    Wow - didn't expect this type of response, mostly good. Thanks.

    I did not name the individual in the post here as it is a violation of the terms of service. What I post elsewhere, and how I post elsewhere cannot be covered in this sites EUA.
    A smear campaign can be put together in a very short time. The video evidence is suspect at best.

    Anyways, I did nothing to shame anyone. The video, and the actions of that individual speaks for itself. While someone could appear to be someone else (flawed idea), my ingame report shows the @______ for the person, timestamped.

    As for Cryptic following up, I got more than the usual auto reply to the GM report this morning.

    *smiles*

    Maybe they will do something to minimize the issue. I think the answer is yes ;)

    As for dealing with these people, quietly just wait them out. They feel empowered when you express anything in game, and get bored very quickly if you don't respond.
  • buckmastergenralbuckmastergenral Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Lets consider a few things:

    1. Zorep (as a fed toon) has been seen wearing items from the KDF faction, such as the KHG cape as well as outfits that aren't available to players at all. I have also heard (unconfirmed) that he is able to change his character's gender. This is clearly an exploit and he is clearly not someone who cares about the rules and strikes me as someone who would do this or at least support it.

    2. If you pop a cover shield to prevent the team from completing the mission, you are an jerk. I don't care who you are, you ARE an jerk.

    3. These trolls don't care, they are in it for the lulz. Your misery is their enjoyment, so if there is legit evidence showing that they are doing something like this, and you don't report them, you are doing it wrong.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    grimrak1 wrote: »
    Of course you think that. Whenever the fleet in question is mentioned, there's Ashkrik pointing his furry finger and engaging in the smear campaign. :rolleyes:

    And here comes the loyal defenders or people who see the fleet in question as not what they truly are. :rolleyes:
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    nabreeki wrote: »
    And here comes another inane one-sentence post that add absolutely zero content to the thread/discussion :rolleyes:


    Not much more you can do that report to a GM and move on, OP. There's not much to be done in the forums aside from getting yourself a warning for posting a video with his name.

    Additionally: Zoerp is not the topic here. Let's not start ANOTHER derail.

    And as always, the great Nabreeki comes with the same exact comment.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Why thank you.:rolleyes:
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited June 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    And here comes the loyal defenders or people who see the fleet in question as not what they truly are. :rolleyes:


    The toothbrush king Droped a covershield in front of one of my fleet members

    Just being his usual Troll self.....he cant help it ...Its in the genes

    just like the rest of the toothbrush fleet..what few of them are left that is
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