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Getting Christopher Doohan as Scotty...?
leviathan99
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This may be a smaller request than the typical actor recruitment that goes on (Tim Russ, Michael Dorn, etc.) but I would very much like it if Cryptic looked into getting Christopher Doohan in game as Scotty.
He's taken up his father's role as Scotty in two fan films and his father's role as Arex in a third. (He also cameo'ed in both Abrams Trek films as a transporter officer.)
He's had to do some work on his accent but the man has his father's voice and seems to enjoy playing the part more and more with each chance he gets.
Check at about 1:38 on in this video.
http://youtu.be/dkFLnFoG544
He has a lot of fan goodwill. There was a petition to get him as Scotty in 2009.
Sadly, with his father gone, we'd be unlikely to get anyone closer... and I doubt Simon Pegg is necessarily lining up to do STO and even that might raise issues with Paramount.
Also... My suggestion would be to take a page from the initial ideas with Leeta and Dabo and make Chris Doohan as Scotty the voice of STO's planned crafting revamp.
Heck, TNG suggests Scotty wrote many of the engineering manuals. So whether Scotty is still around in 2409 or not (some novels have Scotty living decades past STO's setting) a hologram or the like would be a welcome addition, along with going back and voicing Scotty's other appearances in STO.
He's taken up his father's role as Scotty in two fan films and his father's role as Arex in a third. (He also cameo'ed in both Abrams Trek films as a transporter officer.)
He's had to do some work on his accent but the man has his father's voice and seems to enjoy playing the part more and more with each chance he gets.
Check at about 1:38 on in this video.
http://youtu.be/dkFLnFoG544
He has a lot of fan goodwill. There was a petition to get him as Scotty in 2009.
Sadly, with his father gone, we'd be unlikely to get anyone closer... and I doubt Simon Pegg is necessarily lining up to do STO and even that might raise issues with Paramount.
Also... My suggestion would be to take a page from the initial ideas with Leeta and Dabo and make Chris Doohan as Scotty the voice of STO's planned crafting revamp.
Heck, TNG suggests Scotty wrote many of the engineering manuals. So whether Scotty is still around in 2409 or not (some novels have Scotty living decades past STO's setting) a hologram or the like would be a welcome addition, along with going back and voicing Scotty's other appearances in STO.
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Maybe a time travel mission to the Jenolan when it first found the sphere, that would be pretty cool. Especially if there was more going on than the crew was aware of at the time. The spheres are, after all, Iconian fortresses.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
exactly.
and there are many other ways to honor deforest and james then characters in game, statues of the great men on new esd, two gold pillars with plaques commemorating these good men. add archer and a few others who were just as much integral to starfleet, bring these same sort of statues to andoria with ty'lek shran the peacemaker and founder of starfleet. soval and t'pol on vulcan the founders of the ufp and starfleet. degra, the hero of xindus and peacemaker. damar the hero of cardassia and savior of the alpha quadrant and alidar jarok the first romulan republic hero on new romulus.
thats just one such idea.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Why?
No, seriously- why?
I'm hard-pressed to conceive of a greater non-issue's very existence.
There are plenty of characters whose actor still lives and could be hired, plenty of original characters to be added, and no matter what you pull you're not getting James Doohan to do Scotty for a very obvious reason. Like those threads from 2010 that keep popping up, let's leave the dead to their well-deserved rest.
as i recall, scotty didnt have a family of his own which was only reinforced when to his surprise he learned sulu somehow made time for a family of his own. and then why bother bringing up the issue for if all your going to do is ignore the obvious issue of the scotty character?
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Well first of all he said Christopher Doohan, not James...as hiring James Doohan would be kind of...difficult to say the least :P
But yeah if it were possible to hire Christopher, i'd love to see Scotty with a voice, Leonard Nimoy did an awesome amount of VO work for STO, so Spock is in game. why NOT let Scotty have a voice? he's one of only 3 TOS crew in the game, if Spock is voiced, then both he and Bones should be voiced (though i have no idea who would voice McCoy, besides maybe Karl Urban, and then licensing issues abound) in my opinion.
And as stoleviathan said, if Cryptic ever does get around to the crafting revamp, Scotty, in hologram form perhaps (as i doubt at his age, if he is indeed alive in STO's timeline, he would still be working) would be the voice of the new system, explaining to players new and old how the new system works.
Yes, I know he was talking about hiring James' son, Captain Obvious. My point: That would be no more having "the real Scotty" in-game than hiring any other random voice actor to do it would be.
Absolutely agree here. well said.
But it's been 40 years since Scotty was found on the Dyson Sphere. What's to say he finally found the time?
Deleted scene from Star Trek II also had Scotty with at least one son (who died) and I think Cryptic was trying to imply that Cassidy from Night of the Comet was the mother. The real James Doohan had twin boys (one even named Montgomery).
In any case, Christopher Doohan has been working with a professional voice coach to fine tune the accent. His acting career is pretty much entirely paying tribute to his father, appearing in official and unofficial Star Trek projects, and the Doohan family is cool with that. It doesn't strike me as being nearly as crass as hiring an imitator.
We already have Scotty in game but maybe this would warrant giving his likeness the Tuvok treatment with unique textures (and THAT even involved creating new hairstyles and facial features that players inherited for more customization).
For my money, not every voice for STO has to be a neverending progression of bigger and more expensive actors every patch. I imagine Doohan would be easy enough to work with that you could get him without the expense of the typical STO voice actor and could possibly be done alongside someone like Garrett Wang without breaking the bank. He has a lot of the vocal quality and has been studying his dad's "not quite Scottish" accent.. He's probably in a position to sign off on perfecting his dad's likeness.
Along with remastering some of the Romulan and the entire Cardassian series, I'd suggest that the big "stand outs" in the Featured Episodes are the inconsistent use of voiceover.
Since Borticus played Kurland (and got sick partway through the 2800), you could probably get him to rerecord and end the "Kurland here" business. I'd imagine the Breen series is fairly easy to polish up since it's largely just Deferi voices needed. Cryptic regularly works with Obisek's voice.
However, that does leave you with the need for a Scotty, Cassidy, and a McCoy at some point anyway if you want to bring the FEs all up to the same standards. Maybe retune the drink mixing game. The Devidian series is one of the buggier ones historically even though I've never had issues and is the first chronologically in the game flow.
And with crafting set for a revamp, it seems to me like the stars could align here.
definitely not kids, he was born 2222 and by the time he was discovered by the enterprise-d crew, he spent 2369 - 2294 = 75 years stuck the transporter that means 2294 - 2222 = 72 years old in real years otherwise he would of been almost 150 years old if you counted every year in between. and as im aware older people just dont have the patience or ability they once did for children when they were younger. he would likely be around enough to see them grow, but not enough to run around after them and care for them and even if scotty somehow managed to get a young woman to deliver a healthy baby for him out of love, he would be 90 or 91 by the time his kid would be 18. if your trying to tell me thats fair of scotty or any potential kids or even his girl, then thats a no.
in reality it wouldnt be appropriate, but what was know about scotty's retirement is the transwarp beaming device he came up with before it was used elsewhere.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Because I'm sure that early 21st Century geriatric knowledge is perfectly applicable, with no possible advancements or deviations, to the medical and social status of the elderly 400 years from now.
If he had kids, it would have been in the 23rd century. A deleted scene (restored in some airings, never been clear on the canon status of this kind of thing) does place him with at least one kid as of Wrath of Khan.
But, heck, it could be a hologram and if you want to play fast and loose, it could be a hologram that phases in and out of being Scotty or something.
I just think it could be nice (and probably not hard on the pocketbook and a nice goodwill gesture) to get Christopher Doohan in for some voiceover and while he's in touch, get his approval on a Scotty re-do ala what Worf and Tuvok have received.
you want to limit yourself to such sarcasm? be my guest. when your ready to make a point, get to it.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
i cant accept that, not because i dont want to but because you stated it yourself, its questionable status. so until its verified by cbs or whatever, i still havent seen anything to substantiate scotty ever having a family.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
So is the Enterprise-E or the revelation that Miral Paris is the reason Klingons got their ridges back after TOS. I don't see how some voiceover for one mission (with CBS' blessing) and a hologram are all that radical.
the klingons it was never fully stated they ever got their ridges back, they could still be getting cosmetic work and at some point the genome would reset itself, maybe with advanced genetic testing and altering the dna. once the empire had such precise technology, dunno if it was ever used on such a massive scale though.. and miral paris was some religious figure to the klingons from old texts that state she would save the empire, but that precise role was never identified in canon either, sto devs assume it was a genetic thing that eliminated the augment dna completely and restored the ridges during the tos era, however that like the stuff found in books isnt hard canon.
the ent e is a sovereign class ship that took part in the battle of sector 001 and served for years after.
it needs confirmation if scotty had kids to get the hologram to play that one out first and a holo of scotty still would mean someone has to do that work. i dont see whats so hard about doing a near accurate impersonation of scottys voice through james's son, i dont see this as too much trouble either.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Sorry, I didn't realise my point was so deftly hidden behind my veil of impenetrable sarcasm (FYI, that is more sarcasm), I shall try again:
Early 21st Century geriatric knowledge is not necessarily applicable, due to possible advancements or deviations, to the medical and social status of the elderly 400 years from now.
Oi did i call you names? please be civil
and as for the "real" scotty, scotty is a character, who's been portrayed by more than one actor in licensed works, and by numerous actors in fan works. james doohan portrayed scotty in one fashion, christopher doohan in his own way, and simon pegg in his own way. they're all playing the same character, but one man is not scotty, even if james originated the role
it'd be like saying there's only one "real" Superman, or James Bond, or Batman...yes the first person to play the role is -usually- the best. but that doesn't make the actors who come after any less the character than others.
Scott had at least one sister, whose youngest child, Peter Preston, served aboard the Enterprise in 2285 as a midshipman during a Starfleet Academy training cruise. Preston was killed when the Enterprise was attacked and severely damaged by the USS Reliant in a surprise attack by Khan Noonien Singh. Scott was grief-stricken after the tragedy. (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan). Chris could voice the part of a gand-nephew or something.
That was his nephew Peter Preston, he died on the Enterprise during the attack by Khan in the Reliance.
My grandfather on my dad's side was well into his 60s when my dad was born, and this was back in the early 1940s, and he's not even the youngest.
R.I.P. lady.
Deforest I didn't realize was gone in 99 either, but he was older I believe, either way god rest all of their souls.
While I enjoy seeing new life being breathed into the original cast, it just isn't the same too me anyways.
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