Thank you for lowering PvP rewards. I believe that you are well award of your metrics and realized a lot of bots and people from bad websites were probably using to curtail the system.
That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.
Well done OP, for speaking out for the minority of one. Nobody agrees with you, but you can have a point for bravery, sticking your head above the parapet as you've done.
Well done OP, for speaking out for the minority of one. Nobody agrees with you, but you can have a point for bravery, sticking your head above the parapet as you've done.
Tbh, I don't care so I guess you could chalk me up in the OP Trollbait corner. Of all the messed up things about PvP dilithium rewards are on the bottom of my list, (if I still bothered to keep a list that is). So, why not say "Thank you sir, may I have another" ala Kevin Bacon.
OT, this Risa stuff in the other thread is just weird to me. The fun way to get RPers to PvP was when KDF could kill the locals on Risa, but like many fun things in this game that went away years ago. Trolling RPers/PvEers b/c some rewards aren't as good as before seems a bit petty and small tbh and really the PvPers would be the ones trolled by the Devs (Geko) at that point w/all the RPers and PvEers to see.
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Their metrics showed that more people play pvp than pve .Since they invest everything in pve (including the money spent by pvp players) they have to stop people from playing or leeching in PvP...how would they explain to PWE that more people play pvp but they make pve....that would mean PWE would have to finally fire that game designer .
Their metrics showed that more people play pvp than pve .Since they invest everything in pve (including the money spent by pvp players) they have to stop people from playing or leeching in PvP...how would they explain to PWE that more people play pvp but they make pve....that would mean PWE would have to finally fire that game designer .
does not compute.
I don't believe for a second that more ppl play pvp then pve. not by a long shot.
But yeah, game design decisions are pretty strange for PvE orientation.
-reputation sets, traits, lobi-lockbox items, c-store ships/sets, DOFFs sre first and foremost made for PvP. Most set abilities and 3 min cooldown on clickies have absolutely no meaning for PvE and it's clear that stuff is made for PvP.
So, i'm confused as well.
PvP in this game is real endgame, everything points towards it, they patch the hell out of most stuff ONLY BECAUSE OF PvP, and then you see people that say they don't care about PvP, and on better look you see that there are no leaderboards, no custom games, no developer is posting here...
does not compute.
I don't believe for a second that more ppl play pvp then pve. not by a long shot.
Most PvE players farmed PvP .Their metrics probably showed lot more people in pvp (even for dili farm) than PvE (ISE is not fast enough lol ) ,thus the nerf.Imagine some dude from PWE asking Geko why hes keep making PvE when the metrics show that there are more people in PvP...you try explain that lol
Reputation is to keep people logging in: metrics!!!
Lobi-lockbox is a money grab.
Grab? you don't expect ppl working for free? servers being rented for free? how long would that MMO last? Anyway point still stands, items itself are PvP oriented.
Traits? They don't do much, they're just weird powercreep.
They don't do much? wrong. just one trait can make the difference between life-death, kill-survive. Changing 4 of them is like respeccing in some vital areas
C-store ships/sets another money grab and has the "oh how pretty" factor.
So based on your logic there is no difference between galaxy, scimitar, T'varo and FPE?
it's just "oh how pretty".
And again, ppl that model and design ships should work for free?
Most PvE players farmed PvP .Their metrics probably showed lot more people in pvp (even for dili farm) than PvE (ISE is not fast enough lol ) ,thus the nerf.Imagine some dude from PWE asking Geko why hes keep making PvE when the metrics show that there are more people in PvP...you try explain that lol
It could be that ppl that play PvP spend more time doing it, either normal PvP or that dil exploit, so that could be the reason if it is in fact like that.
There is entire channel dedicated to grinding dilithium by losing ground pvp - diligram.
20 ppl get 1440 dil in 10mins tops, then they repeat it.
Why such ppl don't play ISE instead is clear. It is not certain for them that they can finish it in under 10mins or at all.
Yes, I can. I do ISE and CSE in under 2 mins, but people on diligram can't.
That's the whole point of that channel.
NO the point of that channel was to create private pvp stomp fests to power though a repeatable mission that rewarded D.
STFs are in general pretty easy ... however I get video games aren't for everyone and the space in this game isn't for everyone either.
In that case all they have to do is go hang out in the ground zone. They don't even have to do much different then they where doing... run into a zone shoot a gun at a couple voth... if they die all well respawn and run to a different zone and shoot some voth. Before you now it bang boom You have earned 10 marks and 60d start popping up... do that 5 times and they can grind the marks for 500 more Dilithium... when the big dinos come out all they have to do is touch them to get credit... if there lazy just touching one is a better pay out then the pvp mission reward was. If they put the same effort into in fact getting good at that zone... there QQing about it being hard to play a video game that requires you to play to progress, will end.
I am not sure how much easier Cryptic can make it to get Dilihtium in this game. They gave us the gift of the purple daily mark box... I mean one quick tour of the 2 sphere zones (there connected its one click back and forth)... nets you by grinding marks your 8k in 10-20m of play time. Its not supposed to be or should it be any faster then that.
Currently not at home and thus not being able to check it myself.
Does the 20 hour CD start upon aquiring the mission (like defera hards) or does it start after turning in the mission (like BZ dailies)?
They're all beautiful Orion ladies...with hairy chests.
Rofl! And they like to gank people with their hairy chest while in girly dress and ultra feminine names (e.g. Tala, Talia, Seles, Natasha, Lina and etc)
Sorry to say, I may not have a problem with them dealing with this issue, but I believe they dealt with it with an orangutang wielding a sledge hammer.
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Nothing better than using the Dutch approach to handle problems .
I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
They're all beautiful Orion ladies...with hairy chests.
Lies!!!! This is slightly above average trolling!!!!
I'm just glad Cryptic is looking at their bottom line, or else the game might be shutoff.
Scissors will be available in the next Lock Box with a 0.001% drop rate.
Tbh, I don't care so I guess you could chalk me up in the OP Trollbait corner. Of all the messed up things about PvP dilithium rewards are on the bottom of my list, (if I still bothered to keep a list that is). So, why not say "Thank you sir, may I have another" ala Kevin Bacon.
OT, this Risa stuff in the other thread is just weird to me. The fun way to get RPers to PvP was when KDF could kill the locals on Risa, but like many fun things in this game that went away years ago. Trolling RPers/PvEers b/c some rewards aren't as good as before seems a bit petty and small tbh and really the PvPers would be the ones trolled by the Devs (Geko) at that point w/all the RPers and PvEers to see.
Edited to add link for those who don't know the reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFLPn30dvQ
Random Quote from Kerrat
"Sumlobus@****: your mums eat Iced Targ Poo"
C&H Fed banter
My chest is the hairiest!
That would explain the green chick with the big hips I saw the other day in ground pvp.
does not compute.
I don't believe for a second that more ppl play pvp then pve. not by a long shot.
But yeah, game design decisions are pretty strange for PvE orientation.
-reputation sets, traits, lobi-lockbox items, c-store ships/sets, DOFFs sre first and foremost made for PvP. Most set abilities and 3 min cooldown on clickies have absolutely no meaning for PvE and it's clear that stuff is made for PvP.
So, i'm confused as well.
PvP in this game is real endgame, everything points towards it, they patch the hell out of most stuff ONLY BECAUSE OF PvP, and then you see people that say they don't care about PvP, and on better look you see that there are no leaderboards, no custom games, no developer is posting here...
WTH..
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Most PvE players farmed PvP .Their metrics probably showed lot more people in pvp (even for dili farm) than PvE (ISE is not fast enough lol ) ,thus the nerf.Imagine some dude from PWE asking Geko why hes keep making PvE when the metrics show that there are more people in PvP...you try explain that lol
Grab? you don't expect ppl working for free? servers being rented for free? how long would that MMO last? Anyway point still stands, items itself are PvP oriented.
They don't do much? wrong. just one trait can make the difference between life-death, kill-survive. Changing 4 of them is like respeccing in some vital areas
So based on your logic there is no difference between galaxy, scimitar, T'varo and FPE?
it's just "oh how pretty".
And again, ppl that model and design ships should work for free?
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It could be that ppl that play PvP spend more time doing it, either normal PvP or that dil exploit, so that could be the reason if it is in fact like that.
There is entire channel dedicated to grinding dilithium by losing ground pvp - diligram.
20 ppl get 1440 dil in 10mins tops, then they repeat it.
Why such ppl don't play ISE instead is clear. It is not certain for them that they can finish it in under 10mins or at all.
Who is we?
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Yes, I can. I do ISE and CSE in under 2 mins, but people on diligram can't.
That's the whole point of that channel.
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NO the point of that channel was to create private pvp stomp fests to power though a repeatable mission that rewarded D.
STFs are in general pretty easy ... however I get video games aren't for everyone and the space in this game isn't for everyone either.
In that case all they have to do is go hang out in the ground zone. They don't even have to do much different then they where doing... run into a zone shoot a gun at a couple voth... if they die all well respawn and run to a different zone and shoot some voth. Before you now it bang boom You have earned 10 marks and 60d start popping up... do that 5 times and they can grind the marks for 500 more Dilithium... when the big dinos come out all they have to do is touch them to get credit... if there lazy just touching one is a better pay out then the pvp mission reward was. If they put the same effort into in fact getting good at that zone... there QQing about it being hard to play a video game that requires you to play to progress, will end.
I am not sure how much easier Cryptic can make it to get Dilihtium in this game. They gave us the gift of the purple daily mark box... I mean one quick tour of the 2 sphere zones (there connected its one click back and forth)... nets you by grinding marks your 8k in 10-20m of play time. Its not supposed to be or should it be any faster then that.
Does the 20 hour CD start upon aquiring the mission (like defera hards) or does it start after turning in the mission (like BZ dailies)?
Rofl! And they like to gank people with their hairy chest while in girly dress and ultra feminine names (e.g. Tala, Talia, Seles, Natasha, Lina and etc)
Not anymore, it used to be the case however Cryptic has buffed NPC since S9
the whole point of that was to grind 8k total, not 1k in 5 min every hour