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tomgonjinn23
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how would I successfully do a AUX2Batt build on a FACR
Here is what I got now:
For engine and deflector input the 2 piece mk xii borg set
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=currentfleetassaultcruiserrefitbuild_0
Thanks for any and all help.
Here is what I got now:
For engine and deflector input the 2 piece mk xii borg set
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=currentfleetassaultcruiserrefitbuild_0
Thanks for any and all help.
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Your Ramming Speed III deals 242658 (243540) Kinetic Damage (Critical) to you.
the hell would you put a -threat on a cruiser??? let it tank for the love of god. not like even 5 -threat consoles would keep it from taking agro. use that science as a universal. the nukara console gives some nice beam accuracy if you have trouble with that, otherwise the new undine console for +phaser damage.
I'd suspect it's because A2B cruisers can't tank a Targ pup since they miss out basically any kind of resistance/healing ability due to cosntantly low aux power. Can't have A2SIF, can't have PH, can't have HE basically anything aside from teams that could heal/grant resists is next to useless taking that route.
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It does, my bad. Nobody really uses it for the heal, although a HE 3 with max aux power is quite a powerful one.
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In theory it just takes your current aux power level and distributes that power equally to all other systems. Like "emergency power" abilities SHOULD work from a logical point of view (just using "emergency power" to do that). The ability itself is one of the many questionable engineering abilities out there. You lose your aux power and gain a boost in other systems for a short period of time.
In theory, this is almost completely useless and NOBODY would ever slot A2B if it wasn't for the introduction of the DOFF system and technician space doffs that have a magical chance on reducing all the other abilities' cooldowns. That means slotting three purple technician DOFF grants you the almost guaranteed effect on reducing every BOFF cooldown currently active which means you can activate an ability (BFAW for example) and activate A2B in direct succession to lower that abilities cooldown to "global" level (8 seconds I think). You'll want to slot two A2B I abilities and cycle those to always keep your cooldowns low which means you can constantly use damage abilities.
That's the whole magic, really. In my opinion it is a "broken" feature.
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With the unchaining of team abilities, tac team, science team and engineering team, you have shield reorientation, shield heals and hull heals with A2B builds nowadays.
If a cruiser can't tank, even with A2B, the build is messed up or the player is doing something wrong. My Fed engineer has run tanks with and without A2B successfully for STFs and other PvE content. As for PvP, I'm too much of a newbie to lay any claim to tanking in PvP yet.
As for threat consoles, the +Threat ones are for the players with ships that want to purposefully tank for the team, and the -Threat are for the ones that want to gear up for more damage. There's nothing like being forcibly warped out of a STF by some cryptic bug and hear my teammates yelling in voice chat that they are taking hits and when can I get back in the mission.
In A2B builds, use of some skills isn't going to yield much performance due to low aux power when you need it. Skills like Hazard emitters, Transfer shield strength, and aux to structural will sometimes have virtually no healing. Since hazard emitters stops the plasma burn, it's still worth having, just back it up with engineering team instead of aux to structural. Science team is a good replacement for transfer shield strength. It's all in what you set up and how you use it.
This has to be one of the biggest flat-out lies in the game, and yet it seems to be the number one "argument" against A2B builds.
tanking is about shields anyway. heck i tank pretty well in a multivector using EPtS and tactical team. my avenger uses aux2bat and is incredibly tanky with EPtS and EPtW cycling every 20 seconds or so, tactical team running almost constantly, and RSP just about every 45 seconds. granted alot of the tankiness comes from being an engineer, but it's the class i enjoy so its okay.
then again i've gotten pretty used to taking a beating in my 100% tactical warbird toon who's only heal is tactical team and a single emergency to shields. i guess what i'm saying is tanking is a timing thing, not a power thing.
Sorry, wait, what? I'm an idiot, apparently - when did they split the global cooldown on the Team abilities?
Having said that, this is my prototype for the ship, considering what I have available. Probably when I will get the ship i will have access to vulnerability locators, so I will change some tactical consoles, and I'm still thinking if APD or APB, considering that if the ship gets aggro (I love draw fire command) and has decent dps, many enemies will attack me and probably APD will work better as a counter-attack ability.
Appart from that, the rest will stay as seen in the planner.
The choice of the nukara set is really recent for me, because with the rebuild of the set it has become a quite interesting combination, for the high defensive capabilities of the resilient shield (capacity and regen. increased to be equal to MACO resilient), damage resistances of all types as MACO (but don't have the issue with plasmonic leech) with increased to radiation and tetryon, positron-style deflector more focused on shields, and the offensive bonus for any type of energy it gives among other things.
In conclusion, I don't regret getting the set for my ships.
I run a Cheapy A2B on most of my ships. I don't feel the need to get First Place Dps on every run, though it's nice when it happens. So in my builds:
I don't have any Marions.
I run with mostly Blue Techs, and I have farmed a few Purple Techs from B'Ran cluster doff missions.
I run BFAW2 and TS3 because TS3 is pretty and fun and very explodey sometimes. Suboptimal.. so what.
On some builds, I only have 1 A2B, even without 3 purple Techs... (gasp!) So it only pops occasionally. And STILL i do ok.
I occasionally explode. Sue me.
And that works AOK for me. It runs bumpy sometimes, true. And would it be great to have all Purple Techs? Sure. (I'm wokring on it.) But to say the build is 'useless' without these things? Well, <shrug>. It runs pretty ok usually, and occasionally brilliantly, without spending 40 million ECs on Marion because of 'measuring difficulties'. The idea of A2B is to move all that excess Aux to your other, more relevant at the time, stats.
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
Losing one AMP and a smattering of Nukara boost is nothing compared to an Aux2Batted APO/B+EptW+BFAW.
I don't know why you even brought that up.
SO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA to A2B and Cryptic/PW :mad:
Without A2B, to reduce tac team, you need 2 purple conn officers. To reduce EPTx abilities, which isn't a guaranteed reduction like conn officers for tac team are, you need 2 purple damage control engineers. You see where this is going? You can quickly run out of active duty space roster slots without aux to battery.
With aux to battery, you need 3 technicians, at least 1 purple and 2 blue ones, to get nearly every ability at global cooldown. So you only need 1 tac team, 1 BFAW, 1 Attack Pattern x, 1 EPTS, 1 EPTW, 1 DEM, etc., etc.
That leaves 2 active duty roster slots, 3 if you have the extra from a fleet spire, to add more fun.
You must use 2 copies of A2B, any variation of A2B1 and/ or A2B2. Whenever one of them is available, activate it. A second or 2 later, several seconds are removed from the remaining cooldown on most abilities. Several seconds later, the other A2B should be available, activate it, and more time is removed from cooldown timers. Cycle them as often as possible, just like some do with EPTx abilities.
Some people say A2B is a crutch. It is part of the game and you should understand how to maximize what the game has made available to you so you can decide whether to use it or not.
It's not perfect. It has it's short comings.
I have +th for when I really, really want them to hit me, but I'm not going to be that person who tries to pull off somebody who is actively trying to tank. Professional courtesy.
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I think the OP wants to understand the mechanics of it all. This makes sense because post on post recommends A2B, in many places besides here.
Occasionally I've seen posts going against A2B. If A2B is so good, why not use it?
It's because the high dps tac cruisers with potential 6 or higher tac bo ability slots (Scimi comes to mind) can significantly outdps a2b fit with nona2b fit (by around 5k, but with a2b scimi already pulling 50+k), due to amp and nukara aux rep. It's done by doubling up the tac essentials (faw, beta, tt) because they can, as well as doubling up eng essentials (eptw, dem + marion). This leaves room for only minimal tank, but higher dps ceiling. In theory, you can pull it off with 5 tac slot ship, by using single tt + doff boost, or even ones with 4 tac slot by going without tt and taking the small dps loss that still results in net dps gain.
Cruisers with 3 tac slots have no choice but to go a2b. These days they can't even hold aggro without it.
I rarely use TT in PvE anymore. (I don't enter PvP without it, tho) Unless I'm dealing with redundant tac slots (I also appreciate it for my cannon boats so I can keep my front arc up longer. Luckily, most ships worth using cannons on have redundant tac slots)
You can try and doff up faw and apb to fire faster too, but to do that you need to be in something like a Galaxy to slot enough engineering to not need doffs for cooldown reduction there.
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