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Customization: NPCs addressing us as <Title> vs. <Rank>

captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Cryptic is king when is comes to character customization - it's one of their biggest draws in their games. I love everything I can manipulate and modify - even on my Bridge Officers!

It's just so sad that with everything else we can do to make our characters our own, that we are 'forced' into a rank system by every NPC we encounter.

I mean seriously, we have a terrific, and neverending, HUGE list of titles we can wear over our heads - including ranks. Why not scrap the <Rank> tag in the dialog boxes and replace it with <Title>? Let us customize how NPCs address us in the game.

If I want to play as a Commander (wearing Commander insignia), I set my title to 'Commander' and all NPCs then address me as such. If I chose to be a civilian ship owner (after being in Starfleet/KDF/Republic) flying a D'kora or Tuffli and decide that my moniker will be 'Torpedo Target', or what have you, well then let me do it.

Stop forcing us to be addressed by rank. Give us the customization here that we have everywhere else in our character development.

And yes, that even includes using things like 'Moist' as a title - but since the player is the only one who will see it (other that above the character's head) - who cares? :P
My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I am a CAPTAIN. A CAPTAIN you hear me!???! :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    newplayerguy7 wrote: »
    Couldn't agree more!

    Most of my toons sport captain's pips. Why does everyone keep calling me Admiral??

    Would be awesome for the people such as yourself who want the immersion of being a captain of a starship.

    I would love it if people would refer to my toons as MACO/KHG members instead of rank.
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  • xablisxablis Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You will continue to be addressed as a "top" (rear admiral upper half) or "bottom" (rear admiral lower half) and you will like it!
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    How are you Feeling Moist Neo :P

    How has your day been Neutral Zone Master Neo

    Good to see you again This Far, No Further Neo


    OMG I want that :D
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    To the people who are bound to come in and say that there are more titles than just the ranks, and some of them wouldn't necessarily be appropriate, I'm sure Cryptic could make it so that it's just if you're using rank title.
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  • exa12exa12 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'd like Bajoran style ranks as a option for my Militia character

    kjwashington wrote: »
    To the people who are bound to come in and say that there are more titles than just the ranks, and some of them wouldn't necessarily be appropriate, I'm sure Cryptic could make it so that it's just if you're using rank title.

    does anyone else see what rank NPCs use for you though, and how is it different from the way tittles are now?

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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    How are you Feeling Moist Neo :P

    How has your day been Neutral Zone Master Neo

    Good to see you again This Far, No Further Neo


    OMG I want that :D

    That's the beauty of it. YOU are the only one who sees them talking to you.

    If you want to be called Neutral Zone Master Neo - - go for it!

    If you want to be called Moist Neo - - go for it!

    At least you have the option to be called something other than Vice Admiral. ;)
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Neutral Zone Master Neo sounds like a rad anime.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    centersolace wrote: »
    Neutral Zone Master Neo sounds like a rad anime.

    I dont know why, but that just makes me think "Matrix"
  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    *grabs horse beating stick*

    Guess it's that time of the month. Was wondering where our usual Captain-Admiral thread was at.

    Well, c'mon, let's have it. The usual "everyone should be captains!" speech.
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    hypl wrote: »
    *grabs horse beating stick*

    Guess it's that time of the month. Was wondering where our usual Captain-Admiral thread was at.

    Well, c'mon, let's have it. The usual "everyone should be captains!" speech.

    i think you need a bigger stick, the old horse threads are all cropping up at once now.

    i heard this was being looked into when kestrel changed the acknowledge your species stuff in the newer content.
  • opak1opak1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It would be most agreeable if we could be referenced by our title instead of rank.

    However, this would require a TON of work and coding to make happen. There are probably tens of thousands of references that would need to be changed to "Make it go". Some could be done with automation but many probably would need a manual touch.

    As cool as it would be I don't think I see it happening...
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  • zbzznzbzzn Member Posts: 221 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Actually it would most likely involve changing a single variable to point to the player's title rather than the player's rank. I seriously doubt they have hardcoded any of those.
  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    opak1 wrote: »
    It would be most agreeable if we could be referenced by our title instead of rank.

    However, this would require a TON of work and coding to make happen. There are probably tens of thousands of references that would need to be changed to "Make it go". Some could be done with automation but many probably would need a manual touch.

    As cool as it would be I don't think I see it happening...
    zbzzn wrote: »
    Actually it would most likely involve changing a single variable to point to the player's title rather than the player's rank. I seriously doubt they have hardcoded any of those.

    That is what I am thinking. If you look at the way dialog boxes work in the Foundry (which I assume is similar to how the dialog boxes work everywhere in the game) there is a <Rank> tag which addresses the player as their rank. It seems (I say, seems, because I'm not a coder) easy enough to do a 'replace' function on all dialogs tags of <Rank> with <Title>.

    Of course things are never as easy as they seem. But it sure would be worth the effort for the improvement of game play! :)
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    tenkari wrote: »
    I dont know why, but that just makes me think "Matrix"

    If the Matrix was an 80s super robot show.
  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    My primary character is an Admiral, because all my other Fed alts are in the task force he commands. So all my other Fed characters stop at Captain, and it can get a bit distracting to be addressed as Admiral just because they're level 50. I'd love to be able to be addressed by my user title instead of the rank assigned by my character's level.
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  • jodarkriderjodarkrider Member Posts: 2,097 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Agreed. I am a Captain and totally don't like being addressed as 'Admiral'. :rolleyes:
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jodarkrider wrote: »
    Agreed. I am a Captain and totally don't like being addressed as 'Admiral'. :rolleyes:

    Oh yes, likewise.
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  • dragonsbrethrendragonsbrethren Member Posts: 1,854 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'd personally rather it not be linked to title, just so you could still have a separate title and a rank. As dumb as reading "vice-admiral" in dialogue is, reading my title would be even dumber. But really, I'm still in favor of this over how rank is handled currently, I'll just suck it up and change my titles to the ranks I want. I'd prefer if I didn't have to.
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  • jmaster29jmaster29 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    captainhunter1 wrote: »
    Cryptic is king when is comes to character customization - it's one of their biggest draws in their games. I love everything I can manipulate and modify - even on my Bridge Officers!

    It's just so sad that with everything else we can do to make our characters our own, that we are 'forced' into a rank system by every NPC we encounter.

    I mean seriously, we have a terrific, and neverending, HUGE list of titles we can wear over our heads - including ranks. Why not scrap the <Rank> tag in the dialog boxes and replace it with <Title>? Let us customize how NPCs address us in the game.

    If I want to play as a Commander (wearing Commander insignia), I set my title to 'Commander' and all NPCs then address me as such. If I chose to be a civilian ship owner (after being in Starfleet/KDF/Republic) flying a D'kora or Tuffli and decide that my moniker will be 'Torpedo Target', or what have you, well then let me do it.

    Stop forcing us to be addressed by rank. Give us the customization here that we have everywhere else in our character development.

    And yes, that even includes using things like 'Moist' as a title - but since the player is the only one who will see it (other that above the character's head) - who cares? :P

    Yes Admiral. Sorry, I mean moist.

    Seriously, that means "The fiersome Klingon warrior Moist Keshka". How terrifying.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I don't usually read the NPC babble...but I support this anyway. It would make titles a little more interesting, rather than just a throwaway line of text on top of your character name that nobody pays any attention to even when its visible (on ground maps, to team/fleet/friends or someone targeting you only).

    And if you don't want to be called Moist, don't choose that. I think it would be funny, though.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That issue comes up again and again since beta.

    And as always I abslutkey agree. This game beeing full of admirals is ridiculous, and for me..ll I just don't want to be one. Admiral is a desk job, no matter how little some people like that...

    So I want to be captain first. Also some of my characters are essentially recreations of bridge officers and should be adressed by their ranks.
    As a Romulan I would prefer to be addressed in a more "romulan sounding" rank, like sub commander instead of (yawn again) vice admiral.

    I'd also prefer to have a system to set the rank independently from title. Seriously "Heavy hitter Darllighter, so nice you were able to help us" would Sound kind of stupid.
    But I'd take the "addressed by title" variant any time over the nothing we got for for years.

    This would also give the opportunity to implement a lot of missing ranks. Colonel, Major, Commodore, Fleet Captain ect....
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I support a possibility to customize our rank and maner in which NPCs adress us. But, like revandarklighter said, this topic comes up since the beta in 2009/10 and to this day, it has never been adressed in any way shape or form. So, I think you can let this horse R.I.P ;)
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  • buckshotbybeebuckshotbybee Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I've supported something like this since launch. In fact because of the way the game is set up now I almost hate leveling up after Captain. Since at that point I become a Flag Officer who apparently doesn't have a desk job and gets orders from Subordinate Officers.

    We may be beating a dead horse but one would think that eventually Cryptic has to listen.
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  • captainhunter1captainhunter1 Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    I support a possibility to customize our rank and maner in which NPCs adress us. But, like revandarklighter said, this topic comes up since the beta in 2009/10 and to this day, it has never been adressed in any way shape or form. So, I think you can let this horse R.I.P ;)

    I'm not sure if it has been brought up before as it's own subject.

    I usually see references to it only in heated Admiral vs. Captain as end rank threads as a 'work around'. And that's not what I'm talking about here.

    I'd love to be able to have more options as to what NPCs address my characters as - from MACO Specialist to Ambassador to Trader to Lieutenant. All these and many more would be possible if the powers that be simply replaced the <Rank> tag in dialog boxes with the <Title> tag.
    My consolidated list of game improvements for STO:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
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