Player Ratio?

aca1902 · May 2014

Hey guys i was planing to start playing star trek online and i wanted to ask if anyone know what is player ratio in this game? Is there more Starfleet or Klingon players? I was trying to find it on google and i found only one post

"Starfleet" on Google: 5,350,000 results

"Klingon" on Google: 56,100,000 results

is this correct or not? And if its not is there any way to check it? or if anyone know please tell me. Thanks

gofasternow · May 2014

Oh, nononononono.

There are way more players on the Starfleet side. I mean, we all grew up watching the adventures of the Enterprise, not a random Klingon ship.

That aside, don't let numbers tell you who you should play as. It's easier to start as Starfleet, but nothing is out there to tell you to go with the Klingons or even the Romulans (though Romulans are easily the "hard mode" here)

aloishammer · May 2014

aca1902 wrote: »

Is there more Starfleet or Klingon players?

Starfleet, by far.

Pretty easy to tell, really- the constant "we Feds want [feature KDF has and Starfleet doesn't, with cloaking as #1, #2, and #3 on the list]" threads are a bit of a giveaway.

But strangely the Klingons seem to be happier...make one and spend some time on Qo'Nos then a fed and watch ESD. The difference is night and day.

That said, play what you prefer- but seriously, if you want to cloak that's a Klingon/Romulan thing mmkay?

drowrulesupreme · May 2014

... There was an oft quoted figure for what percentage of the playerbase was KDF... 18%.

I don't think it was ever clarified if that meant 18% of the total playerbase had a KDF toon AND a FED toon or if it was 18% of the playerbase played KDF exclusively and had no FED toon but the 18% figure stuck.

I even named my KDF fleet 18 percent just for kicks.

Since LoR launched, I'd be curious as to what those figures are now. KDF got to start at lvl1 and had a new tutorial, few new mission, revamped missions and KDF-ified versions of several previously FED-only mission arcs (The Cardassian missions jump to mind).

As per previous posters though, the Feds have WAY more players, and I enjoy my Fed toons... but I prefer the KDF all the way.

shpoks · May 2014

Since Cryptic would never disclose the numbers they have on this, a discussion on the pop is irrelevant. There are traditionally more players on the Fed side than the other factions.

My recommedation - You have 3 free character slots. Make a char. of each faction and try each one out. Stick with the faction you have most fun playing in, numbers don't mean anything. Or play all of them if you have the time.

dracounguis · May 2014

shpoks wrote: »

My recommendation - You have 3 free character slots.

Yup, I suggest one Fed, one KDF and one Romulan (that probably goes Fed-aligned)

The PvP queues used to be Fed vs. KDF. Now it's mixed teams. That should tell you all you need to know.

jaguarskx · May 2014

The Federation faction is by far has more players than the Klingon faction (KDF). If I had to guess it would be at least a 15:1 ratio.

However, that is not to say that the KDF is not worth playing. I have a Fed toon and a KDF toon and I devote about equal time to both since I enjoy playing both. They represent different play styles and I treat them differently from each other.

From a space combat point of view the Klingons have the Bird of Prey (BoP); Romulans have similar ships as well; which have battle cloak which can be engaged in the middle of combat. This is opposed to "standard" cloak where you can only engage when you are not firing weapons or being fired upon. This makes for interesting tactics, however, wet tissue paper will last longer under fire than the hull of a BoP so dying is part of the "fun".

Since there are so many Fed players vs KDF players, it is really not worth trying to queue up for multiplayer PvE missions on the KDF side because there simply are not enough players interested in doing PvE missions at low level. That changes a bit at level 44+ in missions where both Fed and KDF factions can join up to fight a common enemy.

Approximately the first 25 missions you play are unique to each faction, but after that both factions plays the same mission. I believe the 1st shared mission is "Temporal Ambassador" which is right before the Wasteland story arc for both factions. You get an additional free Tier 3 starship from the mission.

However, you level up so fast in this game (1 level per main story line mission) that most people do not use their Tier 1 thru Tier 4 starships very much... but that's a different issue.

mirrorchaos · May 2014

gofasternow wrote: »

Oh, nononononono.

There are way more players on the Starfleet side. I mean, we all grew up watching the adventures of the Enterprise, not a random Klingon ship.

That aside, don't let numbers tell you who you should play as. It's easier to start as Starfleet, but nothing is out there to tell you to go with the Klingons or even the Romulans (though Romulans are easily the "hard mode" here)

the opinion a side, generally this quote is correct as starfleet players are a lot more numerous because until recently the KDF were nothing more then a empty shell with PVP and a heavy grind. no one wanted to play the KDF so the starfleet was favored more. now the klingons have got substantially more content they are getting more players naturally. add the RR into the mix and theres a fair few there as well.

spacebaronline · May 2014

Since the Romulan Sub-Faction - ie - you have to ally with Feds or KDF - the numbers have become even more hard to know.

Pure Fed might be 50%

Pure KDF might be 15%

Fed/Rommie maybe 25%

KDF/rommie maybe 10%

Some content on the KDF is very hard to do since there are not enough players, however, more and more of the games content is being made cross faction.

You do get 3 free character slots -so you can make 1 Fed - 1 KDF - then make a Romulan and decide if you want to ally with the Fed side or the KDF side.

centaurianalpha · May 2014

I've always felt that playing both sides was the best way to get the feel for the "total" Star Trek experience. So I've got a Fed & KDF char, with an allied Romulan on each side. If I ever buy the character expansion, I'll probably go with a "pure" Romulan to round out the gamut. At least Cryptic/PWE have done a pretty good job in creating a distinctly different "feel" for each faction. Sadly, that also means that the KDF has a somewhat lower success rate when it comes to DOff missions, especially in the scientific area.

edgecrysger · May 2014

centaurianalpha wrote: »

I've always felt that playing both sides was the best way to get the feel for the "total" Star Trek experience. So I've got a Fed & KDF char, with an allied Romulan on each side. If I ever buy the character expansion, I'll probably go with a "pure" Romulan to round out the gamut. At least Cryptic/PWE have done a pretty good job in creating a distinctly different "feel" for each faction. Sadly, that also means that the KDF has a somewhat lower success rate when it comes to DOff missions, especially in the scientific area.

What do you mean with a "pure" romulan? lol. There is no such a thing

revandarklighter · May 2014

gofasternow wrote: »

(though Romulans are easily the "hard mode" here)

LOL. Since when?
Faster leveling, better Bos, Battle cloak.... what about that is hard mode?

spacebaronline wrote: »

Since the Romulan Sub-Faction - ie - you have to ally with Feds or KDF - the numbers have become even more hard to know.

Pure Fed might be 50%

Pure KDF might be 15%

Fed/Rommie maybe 25%

KDF/rommie maybe 10%

Some content on the KDF is very hard to do since there are not enough players, however, more and more of the games content is being made cross faction.

You do get 3 free character slots -so you can make 1 Fed - 1 KDF - then make a Romulan and decide if you want to ally with the Fed side or the KDF side.

I'd personally guess that there are way more KDF allied Romulans then "true" KDFs. At least in terms of active characters.

zagstrukk · May 2014

I would like to know what the OPs reasons for wanting to know what the ratio is.

Besides the aformentioned queing issues on the KDF side there is really no other impact.

IF you want to que for unpopular content, well, thats what your fleet and friends are for. I never have issues getting my KDF toons into ques I want to play thanks to knowing people.

shpoks · May 2014

spacebaronline wrote: »

random stats

Pure speculation. There's just no way to know the real count without Cryptic disclosing it themselves. And I have a strong belief that won't ever happen, because it's not quite measurable parameter - especially after the Romulans and their 'allied' system blurred everything.

For example, I mostly play KDF because I enjoy it more - but I also play my Fed. chars a lot as well as my Rom. Where does that put me faction-wise?

zagstrukk wrote: »

I would like to know what the OPs reasons for wanting to know what the ratio is.

Besides the aformentioned queing issues on the KDF side there is really no other impact.

IF you want to que for unpopular content, well, thats what your fleet and friends are for. I never have issues getting my KDF toons into ques I want to play thanks to knowing people.

I think that with STO being very single player centric people tend to forget that they're actually playing an MMO.
I usually use the KDF chat channels from >this list< as well as my Fleet channels and I haven't had any issues getting KDF groups to do any content I need/want to do. People need to go back to communicating and cooperating with eachother like in a true MMO enviroment. Once one realizes that, it's not that hard to find KDF groups.

snoggymack22 · May 2014

aca1902 wrote: »

Hey guys i was planing to start playing star trek online and i wanted to ask if anyone know what is player ratio in this game? Is there more Starfleet or Klingon players? I was trying to find it on google and i found only one post

"Starfleet" on Google: 5,350,000 results

"Klingon" on Google: 56,100,000 results

is this correct or not? And if its not is there any way to check it? or if anyone know please tell me. Thanks

Advanced metrics > Counting Stats

I'd look for something other than google word searches to collect data with.

kestrellius · May 2014

There are quite a few more Fed players than KDF, as far as I know. If you want to powergame, though, go with KDF-allied Romulan. Romulans are just plain better than everyone else, basically, as they have battlecloaks on everything, singularity powers, and boffs that increase crits. And the KDF has Elite Fleet Disruptors, which (at least as of a while ago; not sure what the situation is now) are considered the best weapons in the game. You might want to consider pure KDF as well, as they have some of the better early-game content, with highly polished story missions.

And I still don't understand the playerbase's revulsion toward the idea of Federation cloaks, against all logic. What's the issue? Is it just factional territorialism, "this is mine, you can't have it"? Or some sort of devotion to what Trek is "supposed to be", or "Roddenberry's vision"? Or do people just feel that it would make the factions too similar?

Because I can tell you this. The common argument, that "well if you want to cloak, go play a Klingon"...you know, it is possible to want to cloak and not want to play a Klingon. (Or Romulan.) It's just...people are weirdly defensive about this. I dunno. Just asking.

centaurianalpha · May 2014

What do you mean with a "pure" romulan? lol. There is no such a thing

ooops...my bad! I keep forgetting that the Romulans have no future on STO as a faction...

Even if they finally moved forward with some sort of reunification with the Vulcans, they'd probably be at least neutral with the Federation. A pity too, since they are so adept at subterfuge and deception; their natural function would be to play the Feds & KDF against each other.

Incidentally, in my fleet, the Feds outnumber KDF by something like 3:1.

jellico1 · May 2014

aca1902 wrote: »

Hey guys i was planing to start playing star trek online and i wanted to ask if anyone know what is player ratio in this game? Is there more Starfleet or Klingon players? I was trying to find it on google and i found only one post

"Starfleet" on Google: 5,350,000 results

"Klingon" on Google: 56,100,000 results

is this correct or not? And if its not is there any way to check it? or if anyone know please tell me. Thanks

If you are making a new character and new to joining the game

make a kdf/romulan so you have a powerful Rich character to start with

After your feet are wet creat your fun character

adorenko · May 2014

Is this a troll post? There are a ton more on Starfleet side, more ship variety too.

rickeyredshirt · May 2014

centaurianalpha wrote: »

I've always felt that playing both sides was the best way to get the feel for the "total" Star Trek experience. So I've got a Fed & KDF char, with an allied Romulan on each side. If I ever buy the character expansion, I'll probably go with a "pure" Romulan to round out the gamut. At least Cryptic/PWE have done a pretty good job in creating a distinctly different "feel" for each faction. Sadly, that also means that the KDF has a somewhat lower success rate when it comes to DOff missions, especially in the scientific area.

Same here. If you like the story telling aspect you are best served playing both sides as you get to hear the whole story of how we got to this point in the game, plus the whole Romulan story.

iconians · May 2014

I believe in the KDF. I believe it exists. My gut tells me that's where the majority of STO players are. I feel that it has the highest ratio of players compared to Starfleet or the Romulan Republic. And I strongly believe that they are what brings in the most money for Cryptic.

That's where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up.

I know some of you are going to say "I did look it up, and that's not true." That's 'cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that's how our nervous system works.

And my gut tells me that most STO players are in the KDF.

warmaker001b · May 2014

gofasternow wrote: »

Oh, nononononono.

There are way more players on the Starfleet side. I mean, we all grew up watching the adventures of the Enterprise, not a random Klingon ship.

That aside, don't let numbers tell you who you should play as. It's easier to start as Starfleet, but nothing is out there to tell you to go with the Klingons or even the Romulans (though Romulans are easily the "hard mode" here)

There is absolutely nothing "hard" about playing the Overpowered Romulans. Everything from the Warbirds, BOFFs, BOFF traits, stacking BOFF traits are completely overpowered and make everything Fed & KDF side inferior.

eagledraco · May 2014

Look at the ratio of Fed Costumes vs KDF Costumes at the Tailor. That tells you all you need to know (and it's sad).

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