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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    To be fair, I only allow Marcus to appear in dreamscapes or flashbacks ;) (and his connection to T'Reya had been previously established ;) )
    Sure. It's still fanservice (but a fun bit of fanservice, IMHO).
    And equally, the detail is not always necessary... Sure, Mayer had a nightmare about walking in on a cadet getting r*ped, but the actual details... no way that was getting written... Same as when I wrote the flash of T'Reya's abuse for the Betazoid. Sure, it was pretty obvious what Scolak actually did to her, but I didn't have to actually go into anatomical detail about it... For me, that's where the line gets drawn between what would be say shown in an 18 certificate movie, and what would only be shown in TRIBBLE, and this forum isn't the forum for the latter, IMHO... All the time Enterprise was prepared to degrade Jolene Blalok by making her strip onscreen however, I figure the written word can equally delve into 'adult themes and emotions' (as the TV announcement warns of the Next Generation...)
    Agreed, with all of this.

    Sometimes, you just imply or state that something happened without going into detail about it.
    That just sounds like something I wouldn't even want to read on multiple levels...
    Yeah, she doesn't go into gory details, but she writes out pretty clearly what the guy does, and you can deduce what she doesn't state from the previously-established rules of the universe.

    The finale was good, though. Kel (the protagonist) doesn't waste time with fancy deaths or witty quips, she just decapitates the motherf*cker and leaves his body to be desecrated by Stormwings (long story).

    The guy's a great villain, but not one I'd write myself.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Sure. It's still fanservice (but a fun bit of fanservice, IMHO).
    I figured it might be a fun little twist to throw in :cool:
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Sometimes, you just imply or state that something happened without going into detail about it.
    Exactly :cool:

    worffan101 wrote: »
    Yeah, she doesn't go into gory details, but she writes out pretty clearly what the guy does, and you can deduce what she doesn't state from the previously-established rules of the universe.

    The finale was good, though. Kel (the protagonist) doesn't waste time with fancy deaths or witty quips, she just decapitates the motherf*cker and leaves his body to be desecrated by Stormwings (long story).

    The guy's a great villain, but not one I'd write myself.
    Sounds like a good writer, but definitely not what I'd pick up to read myself :cool:
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I won't be writing this challenge--in part because Alyosha is refusing to share his nightmares. Berat's are already written in another forum, and Redmond's are being written already and slated to appear in a later story.

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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,360 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'm hoping I can get this in in time. The story's only coming in fits and starts, although I do have Grunt's nightmare written out (it features the Smiling Friend, the Ferengi equivalent of the Boogeyman - according to the children's tales, the Smiling Friend smiles, offers you deals too good to be true, and the moment you accept, bares his fangs and bites your ears off). On the plus side, I have some idea where I'm going with it, and just have to work out why solving the problem's going to be an issue for Mycroft and Turing.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Jonsills: Can't wait, it sounds awesome. :cool:

    On an unrelated note, I'm bored. I think that I'm going to go write a LC 39 redux in the LC 60 thread, in which Three will prove that genetically-engineered living superweapons give exactly zero f*cks for medical ethics.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    I'm hoping I can get this in in time. The story's only coming in fits and starts, although I do have Grunt's nightmare written out (it features the Smiling Friend, the Ferengi equivalent of the Boogeyman - according to the children's tales, the Smiling Friend smiles, offers you deals too good to be true, and the moment you accept, bares his fangs and bites your ears off). On the plus side, I have some idea where I'm going with it, and just have to work out why solving the problem's going to be an issue for Mycroft and Turing.

    I love the sound of the Smiling Friend, I can't wait to read Grunt's nightmares :cool:
  • amurorx0amurorx0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Just put up my entry.

    Cagalli's past rears its head in the alpha quadrant :O

    I look forward to criticism, as it is the best way to improve, imo.
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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I wrote a thing. Because bored.
    amurorx0 wrote: »
    Just put up my entry.

    Cagalli's past rears its head in the alpha quadrant :O

    I look forward to criticism, as it is the best way to improve, imo.

    Not bad. I liked it. Nothing specific really jumped out at me, but it was a fun read.
  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I was going to do an ensemble piece set on the sentinel, but that plot isn't coming together. Its just a bunch of things being random. So instead, it will be a character piece focussing on one of my supporting characters. Time for Jenna to get a real spotlight.
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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I wasn't happy with the abruptness of the ending or Claire's behaviour, which did not come across as intended, so I've made a major re-write...

    Additional Cast:

    Will Mayer - Milo Ventimiglia
    Heath Fletcher - Simon Baker
    Todd Mitchell - Thomas Dekker
    Givi Teva - Phoebe Tonkin
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    grylak wrote: »
    I was going to do an ensemble piece set on the sentinel, but that plot isn't coming together. Its just a bunch of things being random. So instead, it will be a character piece focussing on one of my supporting characters. Time for Jenna to get a real spotlight.

    Looking forward to it :cool:
  • aten66aten66 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I wasn't happy with the abruptness of the ending or Claire's behaviour, which did not come across as intended, so I've made a major re-write...

    Additional Cast:

    Will Mayer - Milo Ventimiglia
    Heath Fletcher - Simon Baker
    Todd Mitchell - Thomas Dekker
    Givi Teva - Phoebe Tonkin

    Ok, still liked it, the only thing I saw, not to be nit picky, but shouldn't functioning be function, in the very last couple of sentences?
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    aten66 wrote: »
    Ok, still liked it, the only thing I saw, not to be nit picky, but shouldn't functioning be function, in the very last couple of sentences?

    Indeed it should, thanks for the catch :cool: Ael and her crew aren't the only ones running on empty at the moment ;) What did you feel about the ending? A bit less 'ship oversteps the mark' and more 'ship loves her crew'?
  • aten66aten66 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Indeed it should, thanks for the catch :cool: Ael and her crew aren't the only ones running on empty at the moment ;) What did you feel about the ending? A bit less 'ship oversteps the mark' and more 'ship loves her crew'?

    Yeah, it dd seem so. Especially since they were cuckoo/asleep by that point...
    But yeah, it definitely was a more, <Insert Word Here> ending, I liked it.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    aten66 wrote: »
    Yeah, it dd seem so. Especially since they were cuckoo/asleep by that point...
    But yeah, it definitely was a more, <Insert Word Here> ending, I liked it.

    Agreed. I prefer the re-write, a lot. It's more solidly "dark thriller creepy" rather than borderline squick. Also, the ending is much better now. :cool:

    Anyone other than marcusdkane and aten66 have thoughts on mine?
  • aten66aten66 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Just set up part one, more to come. Would like your opinions if you have a chance.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    aten66 wrote: »
    Just set up part one, more to come. Would like your opinions if you have a chance.

    Not bad. The paragraphs are spaced a little oddly, but I'm enjoying it so far. Do continue! :cool:
  • aten66aten66 Member Posts: 654 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Not bad. The paragraphs are spaced a little oddly, but I'm enjoying it so far. Do continue! :cool:

    Fixed spacing, hope the paragraphs are still understandable!

    Still writing the second part, which includes a couple more nightmares... ;)

    Now I just have to figure out how to end it.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    aten66 wrote: »
    Fixed spacing, hope the paragraphs are still understandable!

    Still writing the second part, which includes a couple more nightmares... ;)

    Now I just have to figure out how to end it.

    Ooh, can't wait!
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    aten66 wrote: »
    Yeah, it dd seem so. Especially since they were cuckoo/asleep by that point...
    But yeah, it definitely was a more, <Insert Word Here> ending, I liked it.

    Excellent, that was what I'd originally intended, but missed in my haste to post... Thanks :cool:
    aten66 wrote: »
    Just set up part one, more to come. Would like your opinions if you have a chance.

    Looking good so far :cool: From what I've read, Rihan is the language, Rihannsu are the people, but otherwise good stuff :cool:
  • jonnaroslynjonnaroslyn Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I went with my favourite hallucination episode trope. Really hope it works.
    Was originally going for something longer, but that just wouldn't work out, and this way I get to introduce some minor characters, yay!

    Everyone's faces:
    Admiral Joanne Roslyn
    Ensign Kamryn Banks
    Lieutenant jr grade Elizabeth Harper
    Doctor Siluur
    Ensign Yuliana Patel (but with longer hair)
    Lieutenant Ilum Aino

    very looking forward to reading everyone else's entries, I like a good scary story :D
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I am still disturbed by the fact that Claire did what she did unauthorized, but I definitely think you added more urgency and ambiguity to the situation in your new edit. I also think moving the order of the briefing scenes was a helpful touch, too. From your stated objectives, I would say this is closer in line with them. :)

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  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I went with my favourite halluciantion episode trope. Really hope it works.
    Was originally going for something longer, but that just wouldn't work out, and this way I get to introduce some minor characters, yay!

    Everyone's faces:
    Admiral Joanne Roslyn
    Ensign Kamryn Banks
    Lieutenant jr grade Elizabeth Harper
    Doctor Siluur
    Ensign Yuliana Patel (but with longer hair)
    Lieutenant Ilum Aino

    very looking forward to reading everyone else's entries, I like a good scary story :D

    Not bad. Confusing at times, but VERY spooky ending.

    What do you think of mine?
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Also, cast list for my post:

    Admiral D'trel: Linda Hamilton, in Romulan makeup and ears.
    First Omek'ti'kallan: Chiwetel Ejiofor in Jem'Hadar makeup.
    Subcommander Daysnur: Alan Tudyk in heavy makeup.
    Subcommander Jak: John Barrowman in heavy makeup.
    Adani (in D'trel's dream): Morena Baccarin in Romulan makeup and ears.
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I went with my favourite halluciantion episode trope. Really hope it works.
    Was originally going for something longer, but that just wouldn't work out, and this way I get to introduce some minor characters, yay!

    Everyone's faces:
    Admiral Joanne Roslyn
    Ensign Kamryn Banks
    Lieutenant jr grade Elizabeth Harper
    Doctor Siluur
    Ensign Yuliana Patel (but with longer hair)
    Lieutenant Ilum Aino

    very looking forward to reading everyone else's entries, I like a good scary story :D

    Oooooohhh, I'm conflicted about this one... :P

    On the one hand, it was nicely written -- Tight, focussed, foreboding...

    On the other -- I want to know what they experienced :D
  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    gulberat wrote: »
    I am still disturbed by the fact that Claire did what she did unauthorized, but I definitely think you added more urgency and ambiguity to the situation in your new edit. I also think moving the order of the briefing scenes was a helpful touch, too. From your stated objectives, I would say this is closer in line with them. :)

    Thanks :cool:

    On the note of Claire's authorisation though...

    As a ship-wide AI, she is the ship's operating system (Computer Library Access Information Retrieval Engram) As such, she not only governs all inboard systems, but is also the EMH program. A starship's CMO outranks the CO in medical issues, and can have them removed from duty if need be... With the ship's CMO incapacitated, she would inherit his responsibilities... With Ael not just 'asleep', but incapacitated by fatigue, she defaults to being an Emergency Command Holographic program with the authority and the capacity to act as she chooses... Rendering the crew medically unconscious would ensure her authority was not superseded by a delirious crew member, but was also to relieve their suffering from the nightmares, so part of her programming to take the necessary actions to protect the crew from harm :)

    I can see why it would still be disturbing, but equally, hopefully now clearer that she was acting through benevolence, rather than sinister motives :)
  • gulberatgulberat Member Posts: 5,505 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think so...though personally I would never allow such an entity aboard a starship--especially since I am still convinced that there were alternate solutions. ;)

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  • marcusdkanemarcusdkane Member Posts: 7,439 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    gulberat wrote: »
    I think so...though personally I would never allow such an entity aboard a starship--especially since I am still convinced that there were alternate solutions. ;)

    There were, but to have had Ael follow Captain Picard's solution too closely would have been pretty weak ;) In this instance, the few conscious crew members were barely conscious, and probably not even aware if they were awake or asleep, so she really was doing them a favour ;)
  • syrdethsyrdeth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Forum lurker and not-so-newish player here.

    I'm currently working on an entry for this. I was inspired by the premise. I just hope that I finish it in time and no one else has the same idea I came up with. I'm purposely not reading any entries before mine is done so I don't accidentally "borrow" any ideas. ;)
  • jonnaroslynjonnaroslyn Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    worffan101 wrote: »
    Not bad. Confusing at times, but VERY spooky ending.

    What do you think of mine?

    Heh. If I spooked you, my job here is done :D

    Really enjoyed enjoyed reading yours! Your crew is clearly better at getting out of sticky situations than mine...
    Oooooohhh, I'm conflicted about this one... :P

    On the one hand, it was nicely written -- Tight, focussed, foreboding...

    On the other -- I want to know what they experienced :D


    That's what I was going for ;) Just read yours, those were some pretty realistic nightmares! Almost makes me wish I'd gone all out with some murky pasts, too... Very abrupt ending, but I guess that had to be done.
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