Looking for a new ship

irishxp · April 2014

Hello!
I know the topic is not really informative but I didn't want to make it too long

I'm a Fed Eng flying a Chimera Heavy Destoyer.
I was looking around for a new ship and I've found 3 that seems really nice:

- Heavy Escort Carrier
- Galaxy Dreadnought
- Odissey

What do you think of these? I know that doing pve I can choose about anything I want, it's that I just wanted to know some "reviews" from people who flew in them.

rahmkota19 · April 2014

You have listed 2 ship classes.

The Heavy Escort Carrier packs quite a punch, and can take somewhat of a punishment. Its hangar bay does help to increase its damage output, depending on what you equip. As an escort-class vessel, it has a high turn rate, medium hull and shields, a strong focuss on tactical capabilites and a 4/3 weapon layout.

The Galaxy-X is the only ship out of the three that I fly myself. That ship is capable of taking a pretty bad beatup while returning the favor. The 3-pack with the consoles does help: the saucer separation makes you turn a lot better. With saucer attached, the Lance weapon does not always hit, but by slotting Danubes in your hangar bay, you can tractor beam your enemy. This seems to help to blast enemies to death by the Lance. To be truly effective in a Galaxy-X, you will need to slot Phaser weapons though, to boost the Lance. And forget that you can equip dual cannons: your turn rate and tactical boffs will not support these weapons. As a Cruiser class vessel, she has a low turn rate, medium shields and a high hull, a strong focuss on engineering capabilities and a 4/4 weapon layout.

The Oddysey is another effective vessel. Since there are three variations on the ship, you can choose the one you like the best. The console for saucer separation and worker bees are quite good, but from what I heard and saw during the Anniversary testing, the Aquarius is rather poor for a pet. Still, this ship can be a very effective broadsider. As a Cruiser class vessel, she has a low turn rate, medium shields and a high hull, a strong focuss on engineering capabilities and a 4/4 weapon layout.

You have placed 2 cruisers, so I'm thinking that that is the direction you are looking for. In this case, I'd also like to suggest you take a look at the Excelsior. That is a very tanky ship with better tactical capabilites as the Galaxy-X, but without a hangar. The fact that they don't come with a console is no issue, since you have a spare slot to slot something else. And next to that, the transwarp will mean that the trip from Nukara to Tau Dewa to Orrelius to Dyson Sphere will be much shorter for your daily mark grinding. In fact, she can transwarp almost anywhere, which really comes in handy at times.

Hoping it will work out for you.

lindaleff · April 2014

The more realistic question is what do you want to do with this ship? My Engineer uses the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier (see here), and is quite devastating with it. I specifically designed it to solo a side in Khitomer Elite, but it can also tank all day long. So if you are looking for something that could outright kill anything before it can react, then I suggest you use the Escort Carrier.

The Odyssey was the very first ship my Engineer used, and I was never able to find a love for it. Granted, the damage output can be quite great, but the thing is simply too slow. Even with [Turn] Neutroniums, turning is still a hassle. Odyssey is more for the person who doesn't mind parking the ship and never moving.

The Dreadnought can be considered as similar to the Odyssey, except with the addition of a Spinal Lance. That Lance has a very slow recharge rate, and is horrid for energy consumption, but it does significant damage. But that Lance is also the downside, in that getting the most effectiveness from it forces you into a full Phaser build.

Granted, the Dreadnought can equip Dual Heavy Cannons, but the only way to make this even remotely feasible is to use the Subspace Jumper, [Turn] Neutroniums, the Assimilated Module, and the Borg set. Even then, this may only get you to about the same rate as an Avenger, but at least you do possess the ability to turn. Otherwise, spare yourself the trouble, and simply use all Beams.

So if I had to choose only one of your ships, I highly suggest you go with the Escort Carrier.

irishxp · April 2014

Thank you all for the useful informations!

I used to fy in cruiser for most of my career and I just recently changed to the chimera to try someting different.
I like her mobility and the fact that I can still put some nice eng abilities to make her beefier: that said, I'm not that good when trying to keep the target in the tight firing arc

I'm more of a defensive player, the heavy escort carrier seemed tanky enough while packing quite a punch!
That said, I suppose I will find myself more at home on a cruiser, after having read what you wrote.

I really liked the boff seating of the odissey and I enjoyed Flying her in the first contact anniversary event, it saddens what lindaleff says, I thought she was quite a good ship!

I took a look at the Excelsior, seems really nice but I think I'll prefer a Galxy over it.
I have the Subspace Jumper but I suppose I'll still build her with beams.

What do you think of the Avenger? She leaves me with mixed feelings, never tried but she makes me think of a cruiser who really wanted to be an escort

decronia · April 2014

If you think the Odyssey is a good ship and enjoyed playing it then go for it. So it doesn't have the fastest turn rate, work with it not against it. Just because one person who replied to you doesn't like it doesn't mean it is a write off. We are all different after all and enjoy different things.

I played quite happily in the free Oddy I got during the anniversary a while back. I only changed because I wanted a ship with a hangar, I looked at the Atrox, HEC and Vesta, back then the Dread didn't have one. I settled on the Vesta line due to the versatility of it and the fact I can boost by sci powers on it in the end the hangar was the icing on the cake for me.

I am sure someone can tell you how to transfer to tribble and try them there for "free" before you make up your mind. I don't know as I have never done it.

johankreig · April 2014

I can recomend either the Escort Carrier or the Avenger, I have both nand they are very good ships if you get your build right, The HEC is nice with its special console, it allows you to hurl a barrage of photon torps at every target in range, this can be very handy in many situations, The Avenger is a mix of cruiser and escort, its got the firepower you might expect from an escort and then some, it has fairly good manouverability and has some of the survivability you would expect from a cruiser the VATA console is also very nice, I rather like having the ability to launch two torpedoes that themselves launch more torpedos/energy beams.

either can run cannons, I find teh HEC is a good cannon escort hull, where as the Avenger has the flexibility to be a beam array or cannon boat, depending on your targets.

I dont have an opinion on the ody, I opted fro the JHDC instead.

Also the Vesta line is worth some consideration, I got this on an Engi toon and have found it is very taky with the right setup, I have been surprised how effective the 3 pack vesta set is.

ltdata96 · April 2014

Just to have it said - I own and use both the Dreadnought and the Odyssey Bundle, and have enjoyed the Odyssey more.

Wiill it punch your enemies out of the universe with 30k+ DPS? Probably not. But it's a solid ship with great engineering capabilities and a really awesome BOFF layout that makes it somewhat capable for all playstyles, you can take a beating, give good damage in return and with the universal LTC even go for a bit of Science.

IMO it's the best of the 3 (though i have to admit i don't own the HEC)

lindaleff · April 2014

irishxp wrote: »

What do you think of the Avenger? She leaves me with mixed feelings, never tried but she makes me think of a cruiser who really wanted to be an escort

I see Avenger as being near perfect for both Engineer and Tactical, due to providing exactly what both associated ship classes lack. Escorts generally lack survivability, while Cruisers generally lack the ability to turn or carry Dual Heavy Cannons. Avenger provides all 3, and can even have all 3 significantly improved with the proper build. Plus, the fact that it is account wide makes it perfect for when you decide to create a Tactical, and don't need to buy a ship specifically for him. So if you have the Zen, Avenger is another ship I highly recommend looking into as a possibility, and even better if you can buy the Fleet version.

irishxp · April 2014

You gave me many interesting suggestions, it's difficult to chose only one ship when there are so many that are so interesting

I suppose I'll have to grind a lot, or spend some money :P

datocus · April 2014

(I appoligize for this post I can't post threads yet for some reason) I have been stuck in this bad loop with a few of my characters of where I should stick my Phazer Arrays, Wether in the Fore or the Aft Weapons bay can anyone please clear this up?

(Again i appligize I can't post my onw threads for some drull reason.)

lindaleff · April 2014

irishxp wrote: »

You gave me many interesting suggestions, it's difficult to chose only one ship when there are so many that are so interesting

I think you should experiment with the free ships to figure out what style you would like best. If you like the Sovereign, then you would do well in the Odyssey. If you like the Prometheus, then you would be great with an Avenger or an Escort Carrier.

datocus wrote: »

(I appoligize for this post I can't post threads yet for some reason) I have been stuck in this bad loop with a few of my characters of where I should stick my Phazer Arrays, Wether in the Fore or the Aft Weapons bay can anyone please clear this up?

I assume you mean beams? If so, then you need to place them into both fore and aft. For the sake of example, let's say you use an Odyssey. Being a Cruiser, you place beams into all 4 aft slots, and into 3 of your fore slots, the 4th slot being a torpedo, such as the Gravimetric Photon Torpedo.

johankreig · April 2014

lindaleff wrote: »

I think you should experiment with the free ships to figure out what style you would like best. If you like the Sovereign, then you would do well in the Odyssey. If you like the Prometheus, then you would be great with an Avenger or an Escort Carrier.

This is pretty much what i was about to post, it sums it up nicely, try getting some of the cheep mirror versions if they are available and give them a try, then u can hop up to the c store ones once your happy.

lindaleff · April 2014

Mirror ships will usually only cost about 300k, so you can get that from one run of Loot-O-Matic. That should make the process much easier for you.

irishxp · April 2014

Maybe I'll give it a try!

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