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ATTN: DEVS! Season 9, Gamestate, pvp, and A2B. What are the plans?
chrisbrown12009
Member Posts: 790 Arc User
I just fought an A2B galor in Kerrat. it took for Federations ship, across at least two professions about 6-7 minutes just to kill the guy who had nearly 100% uptime on ALL his BOFF skills. you cant tell me that is "working as intended" Since when were ships in star trek THAT powerful and werent apart of some godrace? this ship was taking 3 ships on its own fine and for whatever ever reason the fourth allowed us to kill him......i cant even imagine why. This A2B bs needs to stop. The DOFFS that allow this need to be looked at. The build is broken and if its not touched all we will have in pvp are A2B and vape.......as if it isnt that now.......
PVE will be nothing more than Sci TRYING to look useful and A@B doing all the work with a vaper here and there who are tired of First volley killing noobs.....like it isnt that way now.....
Can a dev come along and speak on this......no that i think one will.
Ive lost great amoungs of fiath when it comes to this game becoming balanced.
PVE will be nothing more than Sci TRYING to look useful and A@B doing all the work with a vaper here and there who are tired of First volley killing noobs.....like it isnt that way now.....
Can a dev come along and speak on this......no that i think one will.
Ive lost great amoungs of fiath when it comes to this game becoming balanced.
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But yes, if you don't have SubNuc things are rough. Otherwise your timing has to be *perfect* and even that might not be enough.
Actually: whenever the plot needed it to be that strong.
The U.S.S. Mary Sue, better known as Defiant looked permanently godlike although she wasn't even a real ship.
The voyager did beat up a tac cube. You know... When the cubes... Which rolled over the entire federation fleet twice are not strong enough, the Borg sent a tactical cube, and tiny voyager did beat that one.
The scimitar? No matter how godlike and op scimitars might be in sto, they are jokes compared to her onscreen version.
Not commenting on your actual point, but this isn't an argument...
this is the point here. they claim to want balance and these builds are nearly unkillable. ive hit them with a 3 purple DOFFed BO romvaper with well over 25% crit change, using full AP and didnt even dent the shields. I NEVER seen his hull go below 95% and 4-5 ship pounded away while he was spreading DPS to an entire team. Its nuts and is in NO WAY balanced.
And as i said, Subnuc doesnt even always help. a cleansing doff or two and subnuc is removed. This isnt Romulans online or escorts online, it is A2B Online brought to us by Spacebars-R-Us.....
...they should start a hotline for all the abused spacebars to call and seek guidance....
.....SBA meetings.....Space Bars Anonymous.....
the police might get into it....
Law&Order SBVU: Unit
Prototype Ablative Jevonite Hardpoints
Elite Fleet Shields Res B
Elite Fleet Neutronium Armor
Even then if he wasn't running A2Batt, he could run dual A2Damp with the A2Damp Doff, and get an additional 40? resistance to energy damage..
He's also probably running a Keel'el (sp?) too so hitting him with debuffs won't last long..
Just saying there are other things besides A2Batt that make ships ridiculous...
but then you can run BO3 with an Elachi DBB and hope for that 2.5% with Crit, at max weapon power and score the perfect hit.. he could die in one shot.
^^ And this here, boys & girls, is why ppl always cry nerf: because they can't win. ''Balance' is just a word ppl use to sound fair; but what they really mean is "Waaah! His hull never goes below 95%, so I want him nerfed."
Learn To Play. Many good players can make kills just fine.
Anytime youve got ships that are immune to debuffs, has 100% uptime on boff powers, maxxing out all powerlevels constantly WHILE firing 7-8 beams with nearly no weapon power drain, there is a game machanic problem.
Furthermore, there are far more people NOT using A2B than there are using it so of course people can get kills. I CAN GET KILLS.
Conversely, since for the longest time the only way to level KDF was PVP, such coordination is second nature to many of them, which is why groups of them seem so OP in ker'rat and have little trouble taking out a single a2b fed cruiser.
There could also have been a sci cloaker tossing him heals.
I am betting though, it was a lack of coordination and less than effective exploitation of command and control debuffs.
as far as 1v1's taking a while, yeah, two competent players can do that, toss a competent eng in the mix and it can be a stalemate a2b or no.
Derrick - Fed Eng
That said, it can be done. I flew A2B cruisers almost exclusively for much of my first 9 months in PvP. I never knew how hard I was to kill until I switched to a non-A2B cannons escort build. But I also know that A2B boats are susceptible to sustained spike damage. Get 2 or 3 escorts hitting BO3 shots of 60K or more and they'll go down quickly. Try to FAW them to death, however, and you're in for a long match.
Bottom Line: As someone else said, it takes coordination. And the KDF has that in spades. By contrast, every Fed player wants to be "Kirk" and single-handedly rofl-stomp the enemy. So it's no wonder that it takes a "fedball" to kill a single, skilled KDF or KDF-aligned romulan player, whereas a similar "klink-ball" means the KDF owns that zone, regardless of how many Feds show up to the party.
RCK
And people say romulans are OP XD LOL.
Sounds a like an engineer tank build. S9 will weaken tanks a lot I'd imagine, especially a2b ones.
How so? the things that A2B so good ARENT the bunch of passives, but the doffs......and those arent being touched....
I am the FIRST to call myself a noob. It fact, a N00basaurus Rex... That said i thank you for the incouragement. Since ive fought you before.....even though i dont know how you are...( describing how you pwned me might help...lol) what is it i am looking for as far as timing? I find beamboats boring so how would i be a threat to such ships using cannons?
I just cant help but feel that ALL the vets are SOOO MUCH more powerful than i....
I still think A2B should be nerfed...
You can buy your way to beating AtB.
Thus, Cryptic's not going to change it...it generates revenue for them.
This. This is pretty much it. I have a pretty decent (but cookie cutter) cannon build, but as soon as I go up against someone I can tell is doing this, it becomes a short war of attrition until I've used all my "woopsie" powers and die.
Basically, it takes practice.
The Borg 2 piece nerf effects a2b the most and nakura tier 4 passive that everyone else will run but a2b cant.