Steam is a legitimate storefront. That's not outside the realm of operation, and it only bothers you when you start up or finish a game.
I'd only grow concerned with PWE advertisements when they deviate from PWE products.
I don't disagree, but I wasn't complaining about the pop ups. I was merely stating that they do exist, because the person I quoted was saying to someone who mentioned Steam pop ups that he was speaking "horse s**t". A pop up doesn't have to be malware or something advertising something unrelated. Any window that opens without you intentionally opening it, is a pop up.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
Well someone missed the Real ID on the forums mess of Blizzards. The anti-troll excuse was destroyed and when they tried to show it wouldn't hurt a member of the staff posted his on the forum. Well needless to say his address, phone number, SS number FB and twitter and even his parents details were found. That post and the one by the employee were taken down fast.
It even made int into the press not just the niche ones it was on the BBCs news website. They did an about face so fast I was surprised there weren't neck injuries.
But unlike RealID, which was a bad idea from the very start, there is nothing inherently wrong with Arc, despite some people's paranoia regarding it. It's not spyware or malware, it doesn't eat up excessive memory or CPU cycles, it doesn't pop up ads, it doesn't reveal any personal identification, etc. It's just a PWE-branded launcher. That's it.
Not defending Arc at all, but I do get pop ups with Steam. Not annoyingly so or anything, but whenever you've played a game launched through Steam and exit the game, it opens a window to advertise what's on sale or what's new etc.
I don't know what version of Steam you're running to get that. Honestly I doubt it's even Steam doing it. Steam has never - repeat NEVER - popped up anything I didn't click into.
I don't know what version of Steam you're running to get that. Honestly I doubt it's even Steam doing it. Steam has never - repeat NEVER - popped up anything I didn't click into.
So again, horse****.
Please, for the love of God, stop saying things are "horse s**t" just because you haven't experienced them personally.
I am currently running the latest version of Steam. I've been using Steam for more than 6 years though and it has popped a window up to advertise things when I leave a game for as long as I can remember. I wasn't complaining about it, I was merely pointing out that just because it doesn't happen to you does not mean it doesn't happen period.
Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
But unlike RealID, which was a bad idea from the very start, there is nothing inherently wrong with Arc, despite some people's paranoia regarding it. It's not spyware or malware, it doesn't eat up excessive memory or CPU cycles, it doesn't pop up ads, it doesn't reveal any personal identification, etc. It's just a PWE-branded launcher. That's it.
No idea don't use it. However you said it wouldn't matter if every player signed a petition against it nothing would change. I showed an example in a game where something did happen even though it didn't involve every player. RealID exists in game, they just anted to bring it to the forums and ban anyone posting who didn't set it up.
People have said it does eat up resources, plus other things. Who is to say it is paranoia? Personally I don't want it because it is bloatware, that is software I do not need nor want, though that is more to do with the extras.
The added extras are useless fluff to me and so not worth the space on my hard drive. If they gave the option of a striped down version of it without the extras, advertising their other games is to be expected so would stay, then I would give it a go. Even if it meant being excluded from future ARC exclusive giveaways.
Either way it is meant to be in beta phase yet if you are new to the game the only way to get it is to download ARC first. This is not what happens with a beta, as they are meant to be opt in not forced. That alone can sound alarm bells to some people.
I've said before - if they allow us to use a 'launcher only' version (allows them to unify their launch platform - which is understandable why they want that at least); but leaves out the rest of the bloatware for those players who don't want/need these outside features and just want to log into and play the game, period. I'd be all for ARC.
If they force the full bloated version on everyone, (no choice as to what is installed with it), then I want no part of ARC.
Formerly known as Armsman from June 2008 to June 20, 2012 PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
According to the tools I've found online, the Arc sites are totally unaffected by Heartbleed. Not terribly surprising, really - if the server wasn't using a very recent version of OpenSSL, the exploit wasn't there. Thank heavens for lazy sysadmins!
According to the tools I've found online, the Arc sites are totally unaffected by Heartbleed. Not terribly surprising, really - if the server wasn't using a very recent version of OpenSSL, the exploit wasn't there. Thank heavens for lazy sysadmins!
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I don't disagree, but I wasn't complaining about the pop ups. I was merely stating that they do exist, because the person I quoted was saying to someone who mentioned Steam pop ups that he was speaking "horse s**t". A pop up doesn't have to be malware or something advertising something unrelated. Any window that opens without you intentionally opening it, is a pop up.
But unlike RealID, which was a bad idea from the very start, there is nothing inherently wrong with Arc, despite some people's paranoia regarding it. It's not spyware or malware, it doesn't eat up excessive memory or CPU cycles, it doesn't pop up ads, it doesn't reveal any personal identification, etc. It's just a PWE-branded launcher. That's it.
I don't know what version of Steam you're running to get that. Honestly I doubt it's even Steam doing it. Steam has never - repeat NEVER - popped up anything I didn't click into.
So again, horse****.
Please, for the love of God, stop saying things are "horse s**t" just because you haven't experienced them personally.
I am currently running the latest version of Steam. I've been using Steam for more than 6 years though and it has popped a window up to advertise things when I leave a game for as long as I can remember. I wasn't complaining about it, I was merely pointing out that just because it doesn't happen to you does not mean it doesn't happen period.
No idea don't use it. However you said it wouldn't matter if every player signed a petition against it nothing would change. I showed an example in a game where something did happen even though it didn't involve every player. RealID exists in game, they just anted to bring it to the forums and ban anyone posting who didn't set it up.
People have said it does eat up resources, plus other things. Who is to say it is paranoia? Personally I don't want it because it is bloatware, that is software I do not need nor want, though that is more to do with the extras.
The added extras are useless fluff to me and so not worth the space on my hard drive. If they gave the option of a striped down version of it without the extras, advertising their other games is to be expected so would stay, then I would give it a go. Even if it meant being excluded from future ARC exclusive giveaways.
Either way it is meant to be in beta phase yet if you are new to the game the only way to get it is to download ARC first. This is not what happens with a beta, as they are meant to be opt in not forced. That alone can sound alarm bells to some people.
If they force the full bloated version on everyone, (no choice as to what is installed with it), then I want no part of ARC.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
cause steam was, and u should change password now.
Sometimes laziness can be quite the boon. :P