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w3est0fn0w3r3
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Been playing with drains in PVE and want to see what I can pull off in PVP.
Yes I know it's not the best way to play PvP out there, and yes I know I'm going to have to build deep into it for it to work.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=scidrainpvp_0
This is what I've got so far, and have not looked into rep as of yet seeing as it is changing soon.
I'd like to go high aux if possible and any constructive feed back is welcome, I'm pretty much new to the PvP side of this game so bear with me if I come off dense at some point
Yes I know it's not the best way to play PvP out there, and yes I know I'm going to have to build deep into it for it to work.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=scidrainpvp_0
This is what I've got so far, and have not looked into rep as of yet seeing as it is changing soon.
I'd like to go high aux if possible and any constructive feed back is welcome, I'm pretty much new to the PvP side of this game so bear with me if I come off dense at some point
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First grab the Jem'Hadar Deflector, still gives the highest boost to flow caps as far as I know.
Second, ditch Tachyon Beam, its useless. Replace it with Energy Siphon. I would drop grav well for siphon as well.
Bear in mind that both Tykens and Energy Siphon are cleared by Hazard Emitters. A skill that most of the PvP community carries. That means you will have to be strategic with your drains.
I also notice you have Tractor Beam Repulsors. I like it. Get the Voth Doff that changes the push to a pull. Help you drag your target in the Tykens rift if he tries to escap and deal decent damage at the same time.
For a full drain build I would suggest getting the Voth Palisade (drain special console.) or a carrier for siphon drone hangars. Your build lists your faction as a KDF allied rommie, so you should pick up the Draguas sci ship from C-store for the Aceton Assimilator console and the Vandal Destroyer for the Plasmonic Leech console.
For your Skill Tree, I would drop all the points from Stealth it is a useless skill. Put them instead into Impulse Thrusters, you want to be as swift as possible. I would also suggest dropping points from Driver Coil and Projectile Weapon Specialization, add points into Electro-Plasma Systems and possibly Threat Control to add some more resists.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=scidrainbuildms1_0
Note. Slightly altered tac boff powers, you really need two tac teams when you can afford it in pvp. Also added APD for added defense. Also modified Skill tree.
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At this point, it's really not recommended for Romulans to get drain builds, unless you get a lockbox carrier. Make your Romulan the dps dealer, and your klink the drainboat instead.
Now I'm leveling a Rommie right now, is it just the ships that are a bad choice or the race as a whole? Cause once I hit 50 I can invest into Klink carrier via C-store if it's just the ship
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=scikdfdrain_0
decided to try the carrier route and took some of the suggestions above
http://www.romulanstarempire.com/
You do know that Romulans cannot fly T5 allied ships, right? You won't have access to any carriers besides the lockbox/lobi store ones.
It's the ships which are.....rather inflexible choices.
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I would have dropped the gravity well and put on energy siphon 2 there. Tachyon Beam 3 works fine, don't listen to this bozo, specially with 3 deflector doffs.
now you were the person I was hopping to chime in, you seem to really know your drains
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Tachyon Beam 3 is very deadly in a support role, I myself use Tachyon Beam 2 because my 1 sci lt cmdr slot is occupied with ES2, but I would love to have Tachyon Beam 3 instead.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=scikdfdrainv2_0
this is what I've got now, I switched to KDF now so I could get a carrier under previous suggestions, hope I was not led astray
http://www.romulanstarempire.com/
The Elite Siphons will absolutely shut ships down that are not heavily specced into power insulators but with all the grav wells being spammed you need to keep them in the hangar bay until it's time to strike.
I'd have to disagree on the Tachyon Beam, I found it useless in my PvP drain builds, up against a competent team or player it does next to nothing. A well timed Tykens on a group of ships that your teammate has grav welled can be awesome. Phased Polaron Beam Arrays are great in my opinion, getting the system offline with a possible power drain is a great support weapon.
Look into the various Doffs that synergize with a drain build like the subsystem offline with energy siphon one etc.
Edit: after further review of your Vo'Quv build I think switch the tachyon out for a transfer shield strength 2 would be best. Keep Aux batts stocked at all times and cycle between aux batts for heals and offensive and shield batts for defensive and switch the Engineering team one out for an Emergency power to Aux. I'd run this build as a pure support keeping close as possible to 125 aux and 100 shields or vice versa. Beams will only be used for procs.
Elite fleet adaptive resilient shield is a must have for PvP. I'd drop the Kinetic cutting beam for a Breen Cluster torp set to auto fire as well. It may be too late for you, but the fleet mine neutroniums with hull heal are ideal for a support ship along with dropping the borg assimilated console for a SIF generator.
#1 - It procs 25% of the time if you slot 1, 2 or 3, so you only need to ever slot 1 if you do want to use it, the others just take valuable space. The bug is known to developers, but I've seen no movement on it, although they lately tend to fix doffs with season releases.
Bug -> http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=902991
#2 - Anyone who tells you this doff should be slotted is a moron. Why? Energy Siphon global CD is 30 seconds. The doff procs 25% of the time. What does this mean? It procs once every 2 minutes for 5 seconds. You're better off using phaser weapons, viral matrix, or just plain draining power levels to zero than this junk.
To the OP, just PM me if you see me in-game or PM me here. I'm done with this thread.
* Sits back, waits for more replies so he can laugh a little. *
Why: Everyone runs leech and decent amount of resist in insulators. Rift is a joke since one can just fly out of range. The nail in the coffin is the fact that pretty much everyone runs sci team.
If you're into support, the only real option is being a healer.
fair enough I'll try to contact you as soon as I figure out how to pm on the forums
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This is why I never use more than 1 anyways, do to the fact when it does proc It triggers a lockout anyways.
I simply use this doff to back up any of my other subsystem knockout tries, so this way I have 3 or more ways to try and take one out.
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All hail the supreme emperor of drain builds. Who claims that tachyon beam works in PvP. :rolleyes:
It procs the deflector doffs, uptime is high, running it with ES and Tykens/gw is not a bad idea if you can fit it. Plus the doff for it is good and its fixed on tribble to work for all 10 pulses. S9 will make it much more useful since placate is gone.
Tractor beam with drain doff is great but there is no interaction with deflector doffs which since the recent bug fix are truly awesome.
* Still sitting back, waiting for more replies so he can keep laughing. *
Note: The OP asked for a drain build for PvP to serve as a support role and never mentioned DPS being his goal. All your advice starts with DPS because in all your minds it's the end goal of every captain and ends with the drain part. How about start with drain, add survivability, then finally add DPS at the end if possible, but assuming it's not necessary at all.
Ok, so Taking this mans advice I have scrapped and gone back to my romulan build with some changes
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=rommiescidrainbuild_0
Going 3 deflector doffs for the CD reduction on drains Still working on what the other 2 will be.
This is not in any way going to be a dps monster, that was never my aim, I'm just going to try to shut down shields long enough to let the heavy dps to alpha the hull and get a kill cloak up and wait.
http://www.romulanstarempire.com/
Looks pretty decent to me, just a difference in advise I would maybe ditch the subsystem attack to shields, for maybe one to their weapons or engines but any of the 3 would be good.
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