Weekend events not only aren't working anymore, most are useless. 5 days of XP bonus for most players is useless at this point in the game.
But what about the people that call for the old Mirror Event mission for XP grinding? Apparently some people still need XP. Maybe most don't need it, but some clearly do.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
Open Source. This is why open sourced games have lasted 20 years or more, and continue to exist so long as people are willing to put energy into it, while closed-source games inevitably die. As closed systems, their entropy can only increase, never decrease, so death is inevitable.
You're still not describing a closed system in the thermodynamic sense.
1) Cryptic loses old team members and hires new team members.
2) Cryptic team members can learn new stuff, by attending conferences, reading articles, or attending seminars and courses, and sharing experiences with developers from different games (be it in-house or external).
3) Players give feedback to the development team. The players themselves are not limited to the game - some are new joiners, others have experiences from other games.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
I checked that Steam top 100 link someone posted. STO has more steam players online than EVE when I checked. Leading me to knee jerk, "hey, if it's beating EVE it can't be that bad."
I do miss the hourly schedule. But I'm not going to go so far as to say that that one thing is the death knell for the game. If they put it up for a vote, I'd vote to bring it back, but really the hourly was just something I looked at to see if anything good was coming up, I didn't plan my day around it.
Same with the STF's. I have days when I live in the queue's. But after getting my Hakeev, I've been hanging out in Red Alerts and running my Romulan through the story. So I'm one of those people who is a regular in STF's but haven't been running them as much for a while. I'm still in the game, just doing something else. I imagine I'm not the only one who is taking some time off from pew-pew after the two week slog.
After four years of reading posts about how the game is dying and will be lights out in X days or weeks unless Y happens NOW! I've decided that as long as I keep seeing these posts then everything is going reasonably well. When people actually quit posting doom-rants and just leave, that's when it's time to worry.
Honestly, comparing games to EVE is like comparing foods to rotting road kill. Even if its bad, it will still come out on top.
Honestly, I saw a forum signature. It said "Cryptic took out the hourly events, and all people complained about was a free ship. You deserve what's coming next."
Aaaaand Cryptic is delivering that full:
-Nerfing reputations.
-Bugging up romulans.
-Making swimwear Risa only. Damn, would it have been too much to let us use it on foundry maps with water where there are no trolls?
So yes. Cryptic got away with that, and now they are getting away with everything else.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Honestly, comparing games to EVE is like comparing foods to rotting road kill. Even if its bad, it will still come out on top.
That's nonsense. Most roadkill people dismiss as "rotting" is actually quite fresh, having been lying there for less than a few hours. In fact, roadkill can taste quite good.
But let's look at why the comparison is flawed: Firstly, it's a STEAM comparison. This means it only collects meaningful statistics for USERS WHO PLAY THE GAME THROUGH STEAM. Comparing an unknown percentage of players who play one game to an unknown percentage of players who play another game, neither of which actually requires Steam, is a meaningless result.
I disagree with the assertion that it is a "nerf". If you look at the actual hard numbers, the changes INCREASE, not DECREASE, power. The simple fact is that whatever you do before and after, your ship will be tougher and/or harder hitting after the change than before. This therefore cannot be characterized as a nerf. Yes, it is a change. Yes, therefore, it will make the game worse on net in keeping with the Second Law. But it is not a "nerf" as you would characterize it.
It is a test server. Bugs are expected. It is premature to claim that this is some malign intent, when, in fact, the entire point of a test server is that it is frequently broken.
Well the aim of this post is to give an early warning - if we wait till people actually stop posting, the game will be well and truely dead, and by that time, there will be nothing that you, I or Cryptic can do about it.
Unfortunately the first thing seen in this early warning is "GAME DYING FAST!". Kinda strikes as another person calling wolf. People have been saying the game is dying since launch. It's 4 years in now, it's a little dated. The game will die eventually. So eventually someone will be right with their doom thread. I doubt this change is the game killer it's being heralded as though.
I stand by my original projection, and give the game one more year, before PWE pulls the plug.
fancy a wager on that?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
. I stand by my original projection, and give the game one more year, before PWE pulls the plug.
And in two years we'll have all forgotten your predictions. Just like we forgot who the people were who at launch said with absolute certainty it wouldn't last 6 months. You wouldn't have happened to have been one of them would you?
I think the game will die on the 28th Feburary in 2016. Probably at 7:54 am or pm (the method I use is a bit vague on that).
Later, game historians will conclude that the introduction of non-replicatable crafting equipment and the first nerf to the Borg set was what caused the game eventual demise, and that nerfs to reputations or removal of hourly events where just signs of what was to come.
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
I have plenty to do with fleet and rep systems grind, but i miss the hourly events. It seems a bit empty and boring without them going on. i used to log on more to make certain events, now its just, whenever.
Yes, but that's pretty much a nonstatement. All games have been dying since launch. Some die fast, some die slow, but in the end, entropy always wins. That's just how things are. To say that this is some kind of special thing is simply hyperbolic.
I think the game will die on the 28th Feburary in 2016. Probably at 7:54 am or pm (the method I use is a bit vague on that).
Later, game historians will conclude that the introduction of non-replicatable crafting equipment and the first nerf to the Borg set was what caused the game eventual demise, and that nerfs to reputations or removal of hourly events where just signs of what was to come.
id just like to state that i am aware that this is only steam users and that i am not stupid i was just trying to help hi-light the numbers that ppl are asking for in this thread.....sorry for being the only guy on here that did research in to the dwindling population before qq'ing about it....
Poor research IMO.... Steam is currently the EXPENSIVE way to play the game....
It is clear that Cryptic believes that they are on the path that they need to be on to retain players and to gain more players.
You can type 'til your fingers bleed in these forums but it's just noise (if even that) to Cryptic/PWE. The most coherent sound that no business can deny is that of money.
Consider this the next time that you are thinking of buying another ship, costume or converting your money to Zen.
If YOU don't like what Cryptic is doing, DON'T give them any more money. Money is what makes a business function - that is what they are focused on - deny them that and you will get their attention.
Star Trek Battles Channel - Play Star Trek like they did in the series!Avatar: pinterest-com/pin/14003448816884219Are you sure it isn't time for a "colorful metaphor"? --Spock in 'The Voyage Home' SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
Sure. If this game is still live on 4/7/2015, you can haz my stuff, I'll admit right here in these very forums that I was wrong, STO is the greatest thing since bacon, and never darken your door again. Provided I'm still here.
What do I get if I win?
Sounds good. I will paypal you $100 American if the game closes prior to 4/7/2015.
Please submit and maintain a current inventory of your stuff. Do you have any robots or jetskis? How about spaghetti?
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
No robots, jetskis, or spaghetti. I have a non-functioning Time Machine that looks like something Captain Fantastic would ride through the Everglades in. Two hotdogs (I had a full pack but a big Rottweiler ate the other eight), and a broken vintage 1975 Mego Star Trek transporter.
WHY did you take it out of its box???
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
At a guess? It was '75, he was a little kid and liked watching the spinning bits. Besides, the PVC covering on those things didn't hold up very well in the long run.
Once again, you have fallen for one of my classic pranks.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard: "We think we've come so far. Torture of heretics, burning of witches, it's all ancient history. Then - before you can blink an eye - suddenly it threatens to start all over again."
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
While i took a look at the hourly events, especially the Mirror Event while i was levelling a new PvP Toon, i don't care at all about those Weekend Events. Do not need those. A lot of Queues are for more empty now then before that change.
Basic problem is that all the new content for season 9 can be played threw the day it's coming out. It lacks any true re play value. The grinds in game are not there to help you overcome challenge they are the end game. You grind the reps to do.....?
Then even beyond that problem is that they refuse to challenge players in any real way. You can do the content the day you hit lvl 50. Will you get the best reward? Maybe not but really does it matter? Look at MI, entire groups who didn't want to bother with it would go afk for the first part till the dread came out and then kill it. Is that good game play? Good design?
Too much focus on lower level stuff and complete neglect of higher level stuff. What's the point of redoing Earth Space Dock if people are leaving in droves at max level because there's no new content? People are not playing the game for Earth Space Dock, it's upgrade is a total waste of resources that could of been spent towards something more useful.
Last but not least is the basic problem of Cryptic has trapped it's self into a box. They cann't do a end game because if they attempted to to it would be total failure. There's no balance between ships, career or anything else. You can not meet the goal of having content that is a challenge and expect people to beat it in any ship with any mix of careers. It's not possible to do because they are not even close to being balanced with each other.
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1) Cryptic loses old team members and hires new team members.
2) Cryptic team members can learn new stuff, by attending conferences, reading articles, or attending seminars and courses, and sharing experiences with developers from different games (be it in-house or external).
3) Players give feedback to the development team. The players themselves are not limited to the game - some are new joiners, others have experiences from other games.
Honestly, comparing games to EVE is like comparing foods to rotting road kill. Even if its bad, it will still come out on top.
Honestly, I saw a forum signature. It said "Cryptic took out the hourly events, and all people complained about was a free ship. You deserve what's coming next."
Aaaaand Cryptic is delivering that full:
-Nerfing reputations.
-Bugging up romulans.
-Making swimwear Risa only. Damn, would it have been too much to let us use it on foundry maps with water where there are no trolls?
So yes. Cryptic got away with that, and now they are getting away with everything else.
But let's look at why the comparison is flawed: Firstly, it's a STEAM comparison. This means it only collects meaningful statistics for USERS WHO PLAY THE GAME THROUGH STEAM. Comparing an unknown percentage of players who play one game to an unknown percentage of players who play another game, neither of which actually requires Steam, is a meaningless result.
I disagree with the assertion that it is a "nerf". If you look at the actual hard numbers, the changes INCREASE, not DECREASE, power. The simple fact is that whatever you do before and after, your ship will be tougher and/or harder hitting after the change than before. This therefore cannot be characterized as a nerf. Yes, it is a change. Yes, therefore, it will make the game worse on net in keeping with the Second Law. But it is not a "nerf" as you would characterize it.
It is a test server. Bugs are expected. It is premature to claim that this is some malign intent, when, in fact, the entire point of a test server is that it is frequently broken.
Last year, you ASKED for this. This year, you get it, and now you complain.
Unfortunately the first thing seen in this early warning is "GAME DYING FAST!". Kinda strikes as another person calling wolf. People have been saying the game is dying since launch. It's 4 years in now, it's a little dated. The game will die eventually. So eventually someone will be right with their doom thread. I doubt this change is the game killer it's being heralded as though.
fancy a wager on that?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
And in two years we'll have all forgotten your predictions. Just like we forgot who the people were who at launch said with absolute certainty it wouldn't last 6 months. You wouldn't have happened to have been one of them would you?
Later, game historians will conclude that the introduction of non-replicatable crafting equipment and the first nerf to the Borg set was what caused the game eventual demise, and that nerfs to reputations or removal of hourly events where just signs of what was to come.
I have plenty to do with fleet and rep systems grind, but i miss the hourly events. It seems a bit empty and boring without them going on. i used to log on more to make certain events, now its just, whenever.
Post of the day, right here. :-D
My character Tsin'xing
You can type 'til your fingers bleed in these forums but it's just noise (if even that) to Cryptic/PWE. The most coherent sound that no business can deny is that of money.
Consider this the next time that you are thinking of buying another ship, costume or converting your money to Zen.
If YOU don't like what Cryptic is doing, DON'T give them any more money. Money is what makes a business function - that is what they are focused on - deny them that and you will get their attention.
SCE ADVISORY NOTICE: Improper Impulse Engine maintenance can result in REAR THRUSTER LEAKAGE. ALWAYS have your work inspected by another qualified officer.
Sounds good. I will paypal you $100 American if the game closes prior to 4/7/2015.
Please submit and maintain a current inventory of your stuff. Do you have any robots or jetskis? How about spaghetti?
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
WHY did you take it out of its box???
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
At a guess? It was '75, he was a little kid and liked watching the spinning bits. Besides, the PVC covering on those things didn't hold up very well in the long run.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Then even beyond that problem is that they refuse to challenge players in any real way. You can do the content the day you hit lvl 50. Will you get the best reward? Maybe not but really does it matter? Look at MI, entire groups who didn't want to bother with it would go afk for the first part till the dread came out and then kill it. Is that good game play? Good design?
Too much focus on lower level stuff and complete neglect of higher level stuff. What's the point of redoing Earth Space Dock if people are leaving in droves at max level because there's no new content? People are not playing the game for Earth Space Dock, it's upgrade is a total waste of resources that could of been spent towards something more useful.
Last but not least is the basic problem of Cryptic has trapped it's self into a box. They cann't do a end game because if they attempted to to it would be total failure. There's no balance between ships, career or anything else. You can not meet the goal of having content that is a challenge and expect people to beat it in any ship with any mix of careers. It's not possible to do because they are not even close to being balanced with each other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXU8w336oGs