Lets just say we can go back and forth into space, like we do now with flying from place to place. You can buy a ticket, and off you go into space.
Now what would you do with you ticket to space?
Lets say the following is in place.
Work:
There will be jobs in orbit on the many different types of Space Station.
Jobs on the Moon Colony
Jobs in Orbit around Mars
A Jobs that take you out past Mars.
Even Jobs that take you toward the sun.
What these Jobs are, let your imagination take over.
Living:
You can living on the one of the Space Station in Orbit, on the Moon or on a Station over Mars. There would be places over Venus too. Other places would be opening up soon, after the constrution is finished.
Visit:
This would be going to the Theme park on the Moon, a Hotel in orbit around the Earth or Mars, or taking a long Cruise to Mars or Venus and back to earth.
Meaning how long it takes to get from place to place.
Earth to the moon would be 2 hours.
Earth to Mars about 2 months
Earth to Venus about 2 months.
This would be the new times over what we have right now. Does this make a differences in your mind?
It would depend on what level of comfort those commutes would be as well. If it was with a bit of maneuvering room, like the shuttle in 2001 (see 6:00 mark)or the 2001 gerbil wheel it might be okay. If you travel in a capsule like an Apollo mission, I'd go stark raving mad in 2 months, not to mention the dangerous muscle atrophy.
That said, I'd probably do like others have said an set up an asteroid mining operation. Chances are I could do one without much government red tape as to where I harvested, whereas planet-side, or moon-side, United Nations would probably step in for "environmental" sake.
I'd be interested in Martian colonization as well, just not on the first ship out. Build a few domed/sealed-canyon villages first. A population of 500 or more would be good for not feeling isolated. I'd probably study to focus on using algae and bacteria to generate oxygen for further colonization and the beginnings of terraforming the vast planet. No alien mountain filled with frozen oxygen. We'll have to do it the long, hard way.
If i could go to space and sustain myself there i'd never come back
My parents have been gone for decades, I'm the oldest and my siblings have their own lives and families, I have no ties and there is nothing keeping me here. Living and working in space would be tailor made for the kind of person I am.
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steamwright To answer your question. In the setup I putout, yes you would have room to move around, and run around. The long range ships would be setup for huge payloads, and the gravity issue wouldn't be there as some parts of the ship would have some man-made gravity. Why? So you don't fill like a lead weight when you return to natural garvity.
That would be one type of ship used, the freighter would be the work horse, and mainly needed to help move cargo from planet to planet or station to station.
I see ship building taking on a whole new level, vs how we see it done today. But if you want a personal craft of your own, you will have to put up 1/2 the cost before any builder makes your ship.
I can also see the cruise liners making small fleets of ships, just to take people around the inner system, maybe they would have stations setup around key points for a tourist photo op, and quick servicing on the cruise ship. Heck I can see these stop offs as a mini-theme park/ hotel place, with a great view just out the windows.
Not every job in space would be for mining, and I can see a ton of people rushing into that field. But then you have the new problem you are facing. Who has the rights to mine in what areas, and for how long can you mine there?
Plus who will enforce such a law in space?
BTW the 2 hour trip to the moon would be faster, but due to Earth Traffic Control, you are under speed restriction due you all the traffic between the Moon and Earth.
Lets just say we can go back and forth into space, like we do now with flying from place to place. You can buy a ticket, and off you go into space.
Now what would you do with you ticket to space?
Lets say the following is in place.
Work:
There will be jobs in orbit on the many different types of Space Station.
Jobs on the Moon Colony
Jobs in Orbit around Mars
A Jobs that take you out past Mars.
Even Jobs that take you toward the sun.
What these Jobs are, let your imagination take over.
Living:
You can living on the one of the Space Station in Orbit, on the Moon or on a Station over Mars. There would be places over Venus too. Other places would be opening up soon, after the constrution is finished.
Visit:
This would be going to the Theme park on the Moon, a Hotel in orbit around the Earth or Mars, or taking a long Cruise to Mars or Venus and back to earth.
So what would you do with your ticket to space?
i would buy a ticket to a facility that can offer a free ship with plenty of space for 1 person with ftl internet capability, full facilities for living and recreation with a self sustaining energy device and a replicator. the ship has self repair mechanisms and due to the replicator it can construct anything to repair the ship if needed. then all i need to do is go into space near earth and just live there without anyone bothering me and if i wanted a change of view i could move the ship where ever i wanted.
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Lets just say we can go back and forth into space, like we do now with flying from place to place. You can buy a ticket, and off you go into space.
Now what would you do with you ticket to space?
Ooooh, I like this hypothetical.
The mass colonization of space would mean an influx of the general populace. They would need to be conditioned, trained, and taught how to deal with the new dynamics in place. I would want to work with making this transition to space-life easier. This would include physical conditioning as well as mental conditioning.
*laugh* no thats just my initial reaction
at this point going up into space and down into the ocean are the 2 frontiers we have yet move into fully. Personally I am of the opinion that the resources available to us in the near earth section of the solar system alone, make it a much more viable place to move into.
If I were among the first, it would be as simple as assisting in near earth habitats, for the initial stream of people, basically the first workforce. Because once up there, ice mining, fuel mining, all these things will have to become real because you can only bring so much up with you initially. Eventually you are going to need to turn to the 'local' resources in order to continue expanding. While JJ might think its fine to build a Constitution(ish) class ship on a planets surface, more likely then not any future endeavors into the solar system alone will be launched from near earth orbit or the moon. I would love to be among the first to be out there forging that.
Sadly I dont know this will happen, thanks to our more inwardly looking leadership who don't see the value of looking forward to the future and are more comfortable with looking to their next election.
I don't think space travel will ever be as convenient as flying in an airplane, at least not within our lifetime. So anyone who works in space will probably have to live there for months at a time. Hopefully we'll have perfected artificial gravity soon.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
BTW the 2 hour trip to the moon would be faster, but due to Earth Traffic Control, you are under speed restriction due you all the traffic between the Moon and Earth.
Traveling from Earth to Moon at a constant 1g acceleration would take about 70 minutes each way, not counting liftoff and approach/landing time, so without inertial dampers you aren't going to get transit time below an hour anyway.
Fun trivia: A 1g constant-acceleration (i.e. accelerating about 10 meters per second squared) trip to the Moon would require only about 2.5 times as much delta-v as a minimum-energy trajectory that takes five days, and barely over twice the delta-v of the 60-odd hour free-return trajectory used by Apollo.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them." -Thomas Marrone
lilchibiclari this whole setup isn't based on current tech or it's limits, but based in tech that we have not used so far. (Mainly you wouldn't feel the effects of 1G or more, so you can speed up or slow down without the negitive effects of that.)
I think in a world like this, I would setup a salvaging company for space junk. All those old sattellites should bring in a good cost of return right? lol
I would live on Earth and just work in space, then visit the other places to say I been then and done that.
Well yes, but if you have inertial dampers then you probably have propulsion good enough that a trip to Mars or Venus will take only a few days as well. Even a 1g constant-acceleration spacecraft can reach Neptune in under four weeks. Anywhere in the solar system would thus be as quick to reach as anywhere on Earth was right before the advent of air travel--and you could literally "tour all of the planets in 80 days", to paraphrase the title of a certain Jules Verne novel.
You could be a marine biologist. Some of the stuff at the bottom of the ocean rivals a lot of aliens seen on TV.
I'm considering it. Unfortunately I currently live in the middle of the North American continent, and my relationship with bodies of water is not the best. We'll see.
Visit, yes. Staying long periods, no. Space must have beautifiul things to see, but Earth has so many more that we don't value because we take them for granted; they are normal. Sure, loking at Earth from the moon may be a beautiful site, jumping around as we could almost fly a lot of fun, but then what? Where is the smell of earth after the rain? A rainbow? A sunrise or a sunset (like on the planet's surface, obviously)? The smell of food, flowers, the taste of so many things, getting in you car and just driving around no where in particular listening to music, etc, etc, etc. So many, many, many things.
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Live and work in space would be my choice. As far from the bulk of humanity as possible.
Meaning how long it takes to get from place to place.
Earth to the moon would be 2 hours.
Earth to Mars about 2 months
Earth to Venus about 2 months.
This would be the new times over what we have right now. Does this make a differences in your mind?
It would depend on what level of comfort those commutes would be as well. If it was with a bit of maneuvering room, like the shuttle in 2001 (see 6:00 mark)or the 2001 gerbil wheel it might be okay. If you travel in a capsule like an Apollo mission, I'd go stark raving mad in 2 months, not to mention the dangerous muscle atrophy.
That said, I'd probably do like others have said an set up an asteroid mining operation. Chances are I could do one without much government red tape as to where I harvested, whereas planet-side, or moon-side, United Nations would probably step in for "environmental" sake.
I'd be interested in Martian colonization as well, just not on the first ship out. Build a few domed/sealed-canyon villages first. A population of 500 or more would be good for not feeling isolated. I'd probably study to focus on using algae and bacteria to generate oxygen for further colonization and the beginnings of terraforming the vast planet. No alien mountain filled with frozen oxygen. We'll have to do it the long, hard way.
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I'd do the same.
That would be one type of ship used, the freighter would be the work horse, and mainly needed to help move cargo from planet to planet or station to station.
I see ship building taking on a whole new level, vs how we see it done today. But if you want a personal craft of your own, you will have to put up 1/2 the cost before any builder makes your ship.
I can also see the cruise liners making small fleets of ships, just to take people around the inner system, maybe they would have stations setup around key points for a tourist photo op, and quick servicing on the cruise ship. Heck I can see these stop offs as a mini-theme park/ hotel place, with a great view just out the windows.
Not every job in space would be for mining, and I can see a ton of people rushing into that field. But then you have the new problem you are facing. Who has the rights to mine in what areas, and for how long can you mine there?
Plus who will enforce such a law in space?
BTW the 2 hour trip to the moon would be faster, but due to Earth Traffic Control, you are under speed restriction due you all the traffic between the Moon and Earth.
i would buy a ticket to a facility that can offer a free ship with plenty of space for 1 person with ftl internet capability, full facilities for living and recreation with a self sustaining energy device and a replicator. the ship has self repair mechanisms and due to the replicator it can construct anything to repair the ship if needed. then all i need to do is go into space near earth and just live there without anyone bothering me and if i wanted a change of view i could move the ship where ever i wanted.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Ooooh, I like this hypothetical.
The mass colonization of space would mean an influx of the general populace. They would need to be conditioned, trained, and taught how to deal with the new dynamics in place. I would want to work with making this transition to space-life easier. This would include physical conditioning as well as mental conditioning.
Can I have a classroom in space?
I want a classroom in space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKMS62GrTI
Is that your core objective?
at this point going up into space and down into the ocean are the 2 frontiers we have yet move into fully. Personally I am of the opinion that the resources available to us in the near earth section of the solar system alone, make it a much more viable place to move into.
Lets face it, in the previous century the expansion of the population of the planet, well its skyrocketed:
http://www.sustainablescale.org/images/uploaded/Population/World%20Population%20Growth%20to%202050.JPG
With that the demand for resources (places to live, things to eat, etc) have also exploded. Moving up would be our next logical step to relax the strains we will continue to undergo.
If I were among the first, it would be as simple as assisting in near earth habitats, for the initial stream of people, basically the first workforce. Because once up there, ice mining, fuel mining, all these things will have to become real because you can only bring so much up with you initially. Eventually you are going to need to turn to the 'local' resources in order to continue expanding. While JJ might think its fine to build a Constitution(ish) class ship on a planets surface, more likely then not any future endeavors into the solar system alone will be launched from near earth orbit or the moon. I would love to be among the first to be out there forging that.
Sadly I dont know this will happen, thanks to our more inwardly looking leadership who don't see the value of looking forward to the future and are more comfortable with looking to their next election.
hawku001x I can see more than dating going on in space.
I would have to say I would Live and Work in space. Hell I could do my current job in space, anywhere there is retail, there is inventory. SKU CHECK!
I honestly like the idea of being away from the billions of people on Earth, so I would be out by Mars or Venus.
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I don't think space travel will ever be as convenient as flying in an airplane, at least not within our lifetime. So anyone who works in space will probably have to live there for months at a time. Hopefully we'll have perfected artificial gravity soon.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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Traveling from Earth to Moon at a constant 1g acceleration would take about 70 minutes each way, not counting liftoff and approach/landing time, so without inertial dampers you aren't going to get transit time below an hour anyway.
Fun trivia: A 1g constant-acceleration (i.e. accelerating about 10 meters per second squared) trip to the Moon would require only about 2.5 times as much delta-v as a minimum-energy trajectory that takes five days, and barely over twice the delta-v of the 60-odd hour free-return trajectory used by Apollo.
Hell yes, yes and maybe.. Though they would have to invent better ways to keep our bodies from degenerating for me to wanna live there.
Until hulkmageddon that is. :P
You could be a marine biologist. Some of the stuff at the bottom of the ocean rivals a lot of aliens seen on TV.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
I think in a world like this, I would setup a salvaging company for space junk. All those old sattellites should bring in a good cost of return right? lol
I would live on Earth and just work in space, then visit the other places to say I been then and done that.