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Half-assing a Half Assed Project (Romulans)

flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
Probably not the most suited title, but at the minute, it's the best one you're going to get.

Before anyone jumps to conclusions and initially thinks "Oh, here's this guy again stating his opinion about a fully independent Romulan faction" you couldn't be more wrong. I've come to accept that the Romulans aren't going to get their true independence, and that any future faction (if we ever get one) will likely follow suit. My problem isn't with that, no.

My problem is with the laziness of the people involved. As far as the Republic storyline goes, I cannot fault it. The same can be said for the ships, equipment and costumes. It would be nice if we had a few more species to choose from, but that's an argument for another day.

I'm here, still annoyed with the bugs and irregularities that exist within this third fraction. I get that all the factions have bugs and problems, but it's the Republic ones that I seem to be noticing more.

@Devs; did you actually test LoR before you unleashed it on us?

* As a Republic player, I would very much like a Republic crew. Why then, am I rewarded with Federation/Klingon Duty Officers? Why isn't there a way to obtain Republic officers only? There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to mix and match out Doffs, but at the same time, for those that wish it, we should be able to have a full set of Republic Doffs.

* Bridge Officers and their costumes. It's obvious that Republic Boffs are coded to a specific faction (FED/KDF) yet nobody (who purchases from the exchange) finds this out until they attempt to modify the attire on said Boff, only to find they can't wear what they might want. Considering most Purple Romulans sell for 700k at the moment (on a good day) that's a lot of money we're suppose to be spending on something we can use as we desire. The amount of EC I've spent on getting the correct Boffs is getting beyond a friggin' joke now.

Please, sort it out. Either make Republic Boffs Universal (the unique costumes included) or change the icon so we can clearly see whether we're purchasing a FED Romulan or KDF Romulan.

* Whilst not essential, I don't appreciate having to travel all the way to ESD (or First City) to obtain a datachip. Place one within the command center. The same goes for the contraband assignment.

It's been around 16 months since LoR was released, and it seems you've done nothing to correct internal problems. Season 8 was highly focused on the Sphere (as was 8.5), Season 9 is going Delta, 9.5 will probably be fixes and content for that. I don't want to be waiting until Season 10 before the Romulans get fixed. I'm not asking for their independence, I'm asking that you correct what shouldn't have been incorrect in the first place. These might only seem like small, insignificant issues to you, but to me (and I'd think many other players) it is a nuisance.

@Gamers, feel free to note down other Team Green bugs (etc) here. See if something can come of this.
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Most of those aren't bugs, they're Working As Designed. What you want is for the design intention to change.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    walshicus wrote: »
    Most of those aren't bugs, they're Working As Designed. What you want is for the design intention to change.
    So you're saying the Devs designed for us (the players) to potentially get screwed over when buying a Romulan/Reman Boff from the exchange? :rolleyes:

    Edit: I didn't name them all as bugs either, I've stated bugs and irregularities. :)
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  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    at the bottom of the exchange you can click a button to only display items YOU can use. Due to the poor visual distinction on BOs that can be of various factions, this is the safe way to buy one without getting the wrong type.
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    I've come to accept that the Romulans aren't going to get their true independence

    3 and a half years it took for the Klingons... so, 3 more years to go... hate to say we told you so, but if you look through old forum posts.... we did actually say a 3rd faction would be half a job like the KDF were (actually, we were less than half).

    Just hang in there buddy, one day, when the next unfinished faction hits the live server, you may be free from Fed / KDF rule ;)
  • kantazo1kantazo1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    The devs already have said the Romulans will never be independent
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  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    As someone who is highly impressed with LoR I have to disagree.

    First there are plenty of options to buy from the Exchange at any quality for Boffs who are reman and romulan. If you want an all romulan/reman crew it's the easiest way.

    Second, the costumes are the same way. Boffs should be locked into their faction costumes so that you can dress them accordingly. Never on any mission but 1 did I see a member of another race take on a costume that would be considered a boff in this game but 1 time when it would have been a serious problem for Major Kira to go as a bajoran officer instead of a star fleet officer to help the Cardassian rebels take back Cardassia from the Dominion.

    All other times they wouldn't be considered boffs by this games standards their appearance would have been akin to the hologram used to make us look like Klingons in one of the early leveling missions not actual bridge uniforms.

    As a federation captain I love how my reman boff my android boff my breen boff and my liberated borg boff all look different from one another (although it is a bit annoying that my lib borg boff can't wear clothing) I've learned to deal with it.
  • sennahcheribsennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    yes the prices for romulan BOFF are insane; this is why i have human and aliens boff in my crew. the real problem is the clothes, when we purchase boff who are not romulan, we should be able to put romulan clothes on them. Because this is boring to see fed clothes in a romulan crew.

    the off-duty clothes should be enabled for the boff; the option exist but it is not enabled.

    if we could replay the tutorial to grab D'vex again, this would be great too
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    * As a Republic player, I would very much like a Republic crew. Why then, am I rewarded with Federation/Klingon Duty Officers? Why isn't there a way to obtain Republic officers only? There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to mix and match out Doffs, but at the same time, for those that wish it, we should be able to have a full set of Republic Doffs.
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    There is?
    Actually Roms have the big advantage of being able to pick up almost twice the amount of duty officers, the romulans and the KDF/fed ones.

    Althouh those are mostly just white ones :(

    * Bridge Officers and their costumes. It's obvious that Republic Boffs are coded to a specific faction (FED/KDF) yet nobody (who purchases from the exchange) finds this out until they attempt to modify the attire on said Boff, only to find they can't wear what they might want. Considering most Purple Romulans sell for 700k at the moment (on a good day) that's a lot of money we're suppose to be spending on something we can use as we desire. The amount of EC I've spent on getting the correct Boffs is getting beyond a friggin' joke now.

    Please, sort it out. Either make Republic Boffs Universal (the unique costumes included) or change the icon so we can clearly see whether we're purchasing a FED Romulan or KDF Romulan

    Thats annoying but costume policy of Cryptic in recent days is questionable at best.

    Originally it was possible to use the alignment costumes, so when picking up a KDF aligned Romulan BO with a Fed aligned Rom, you could use the KDF costume on the bo. That was awesome, fun and didn't hurt anyone.

    Cryptic on the other hand decided that THIS was an issue that needed an emergency fix. So they not only changed this to the current state (instead of investing the resources into fixing actually BUGS....) they essentially broke the editor in the progress.....
    This change was the reason why the KDF characters could not change costumes for month now, which is an issue that is supposed to be resolved today.... but still...
    KDF characters cannot switch costumes ->priority
    Romulan characters can use some costume pieces they shouldn't? EMERGENCY SERVER SHUTDOWN!!!


    * Whilst not essential, I don't appreciate having to travel all the way to ESD (or First City) to obtain a datachip. Place one within the command center. The same goes for the contraband assignment.

    Many people keep asking for that kind of stuff, especially for a Romulan academy. I have to disagree honestly, I think for a lot of stuff, like that one, it is enough to have access to the aligned faction things.
    We already have the situation with the DOs that Romulans essentially get double resources.... also they have already access to aligned and Romulan BOs.... they are in my opinion more then a bit ahead of the other 2....

    What I would like to see is a direct transition point between new romulus and Earth/First City (like the one we had during the anniversary event, just permanent).
    It's been around 16 months since LoR was released, and it seems you've done nothing to correct internal problems. Season 8 was highly focused on the Sphere (as was 8.5), Season 9 is going Delta, 9.5 will probably be fixes and content for that. I don't want to be waiting until Season 10 before the Romulans get fixed. I'm not asking for their independence, I'm asking that you correct what shouldn't have been incorrect in the first place. These might only seem like small, insignificant issues to you, but to me (and I'd think many other players) it is a nuisance.

    Honestly, I still think the KDF is far more broken.....
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    It's been around 16 months since LoR was released, and it seems you've done nothing to correct internal problems.
    It's scary to realize how poor people's memories are. Lor was released on May 21, 2013. It has only been 9 months, not 16. Granted, 9 months is a long time but when you look at all the content that's been released between the 3rd and 4th anniversary there's a lot there.

    2 fes, lor content, dyson zone, fleet holdings, romulan, nukara, and dyson rep changes and additions, and so on.

    I don't think there's another mmo out there that has put as much content into any existing game in 1 year as sto has; and it was all free.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    I don't want to be waiting until Season 10 before the Romulans get fixed.

    Don't worry about that. Using the KDF as a yardstick, you should be worried about whether you'll see any significant action before Season 23.
    stf65 wrote: »
    It's scary to realize how poor people's memories are. Lor was released on May 21, 2013. It has only been 9 months, not 16.

    Nothing out of the ordinary for anyone who's dealt with 5-year-olds. A month after a trip to Disneyland, they're on about how "We haven't been there in, like, foreveeeeeeeer!"

    Pretty much the same thing. Memory skewed by overwhelming impatience.
  • endorfinatorendorfinator Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Lets not forget how broken the timeline is in the game. After five years it is still early 2409 in game, Cryptic needs to rethink that much. Also, the Republic should slowly be gaining more independence as it becomes situated on New Romulus and begins mining and ship building operations.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Lets not forget how broken the timeline is in the game. After five years it is still early 2409 in game, Cryptic needs to rethink that much. Also, the Republic should slowly be gaining more independence as it becomes situated on New Romulus and begins mining and ship building operations.
    The timeline doesn't matter. It's kept vague so that people at all levels can interact with each other and not have to deal with temporal issues. :)

    And the game just had it's 4th anniversary in feb. At best it's 4 years and 1 month, not 5 years.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    3 and a half years it took for the Klingons... so, 3 more years to go... hate to say we told you so, but if you look through old forum posts.... we did actually say a 3rd faction would be half a job like the KDF were (actually, we were less than half).

    Just hang in there buddy, one day, when the next unfinished faction hits the live server, you may be free from Fed / KDF rule ;)
    Hah, whilst it's nice that some people are optimistic about this, I am realistic.

    The Klingons were built from the ground up as stand alone, and thus continue to be. The Romulans were built into the current factions, and thus I cannot see them going their own way. Too much has been invested in their building, and into the fleet system for that to happen now.
    kantazo1 wrote: »
    The devs already have said the Romulans will never be independent
    And if you actually read my first post, you'll see that I am well aware of that, and do not expect it to change. :)
    yes the prices for romulan BOFF are insane; this is why i have human and aliens boff in my crew. the real problem is the clothes, when we purchase boff who are not romulan, we should be able to put romulan clothes on them. Because this is boring to see fed clothes in a romulan crew.
    I support this.
    stf65 wrote: »
    It's scary to realize how poor people's memories are. Lor was released on May 21, 2013. It has only been 9 months, not 16. Granted, 9 months is a long time but when you look at all the content that's been released between the 3rd and 4th anniversary there's a lot there.
    You are correct, I was wrong. I was thinking of Season 7 (New Romulus).
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  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    The timeline doesn't matter. It's kept vague so that people at all levels can interact with each other and not have to deal with temporal issues. :)

    And the game just had it's 4th anniversary in feb. At best it's 4 years and 1 month, not 5 years.

    What temporal issues? Since, our toons really don't impact STO's overall story, we are more like active observers, there is no issue, except for the ones made up in the Dev's noggins.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    What temporal issues? Since, our toons really don't impact STO's overall story, we are more like active observers, there is no issue, except for the ones made up in the Dev's noggins.
    If you check the stardates on your missions you'll see that we're all in different times and progress as you play. If you team with someone above or below you in the mission chain they're actually in a different time period then you are. The stardate for doing 'stranded in space' is different period in time then doing 'the return.' If you team up with a friend to help him get through the first dozen missions you're actually doing things in the past. That's why time is meaningless within the game, and virtually every other mmo I've ever played.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    If you check the stardates on your missions you'll see that we're all in different times and progress as you play. If you team with someone above or below you in the mission chain they're actually in a different time period then you are. The stardate for doing 'stranded in space' is different period in time then doing 'the return.' If you team up with a friend to help him get through the first dozen missions you're actually doing things in the past. That's why time is meaningless within the game, and virtually every other mmo I've ever played.

    Its not a temporal issue. Its just a flashback^^
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Again, our toons are pretty much engaging in a large holodeck. So if you start a toon and don't even go beyond the tutorial and just doff level, no impact and you really don't miss a thing in storywise.
  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    eldarion79 wrote: »
    Again, our toons are pretty much engaging in a large holodeck. So if you start a toon and don't even go beyond the tutorial and just doff level, no impact and you really don't miss a thing in storywise.

    It still should be advanced a little, its unlikely that everything that we as a character has done in game happened in one year.
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