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Fed Cruiser with 5 Tactical slots
cyberpunk1977
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Hi,
Which Cruisers have 5 tactical slots that a Federation Character can use?
Looking for something comparable to a Scimitar.
Thanks.
Which Cruisers have 5 tactical slots that a Federation Character can use?
Looking for something comparable to a Scimitar.
Thanks.
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closest may be the fleet avenger, fleet excelsior and fleet assault cruiser.
the kdf actually have a 5 tac console cruiser the tac bortasqu'.
IMHO the 5 cannon escorts are pretty slick too.
Andorian Kumari Escort has 5 tac consoles.
Avenger has 4.
Note that the avenger has the cruiser commands which the scimitar does not, which probably makes up for 1 tac console. the avenger is tougher.
The dps gap from rom BOs means even the escort won't beat a scim in almost the same gear (ignore warp core). But it will get close enough to melt things. If you put beams on the scim and cannons at point blank range on the escort, I would not be surprised if they were equal. The escort has one of the worst officer setups in game and while it might match the dps of a scim, it is stupidly fragile.
The new galaxy is not in the class of any of these ships, its just a nice ship but really more of a tank.
I fly a Scimitar and a Mogh. The Mogh isn't far behind with the right setup.
scim is not a cruiser. Roms have zero cruisers (no ship has the commands).
I am not sure how, with the mogh, scim, avenger, etc you can say 5 up front is for escorts. Only the one fed escort (family of 3?) has 5 up front.
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The scimitar SHOULD be a cruiser. Thats the main problem of the op state of that ship. So, what is it, is the scimitar an escort??? LOL. Now, everything makes sense... xD.
Perhaps it should be a cruiser, but it has zero cruiser commands. The same total as the DD and haakona classes. NONE of them have cruiser commands. Specifically the scim also has light armor and shields for a cruiser. Because it is not really a cruiser... ****
What the scim is is a gunship. Its the 500 years from now version of an assault helicopter; a 'gunship'. It is pretty much in a class of its own though you might lump the avenger and mogh in there (those are battlecruisers, and have the commands, so its not quite a match there either).
calling it an escort with that turn rate is also wrong, nor is it a destroyer. It is closest to an assault carrier, maybe.... but that does not quite fit either.
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I am not lobbying for cruiser commands on rom ships. With singularity & cloak it would be a bit much. I am simply making a distinction that just because the scimitar is a fat cow does not make it a cruiser.
The Scimitar is a Warbird.
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Unfortunately Mirror STO focuses heavily on diplomacy, exploration, investigation and tanking, so it's still useless.
In the prime universe version of STO that we play there is no 5 tactical console fed cruiser. The closest you'll get is a Fleet Avenger.
Yep. When people say things like "Cruisers won't have 5 Tac consoles", it's important to understand how the ship classifications were, at least initially, specific to the factions
Feds have:
Escorts
Cruisers
Science Vessels
KDF has:
Raiders
Raptors
Battle Cruisers
Carriers
Romulans have:
Warbirds
Now, as the game has progressed, there's been bleed over between the various factions. Mostly that Feds have gotten everything that used to make the KDF unique (Atrox is a carrier, Avenger is a battle cruiser). Lockbox and most event ships are of course all completely cross faction. When a type of ship is released to the other faction though, it retains its classification and all the bonuses and limitations that apply to it. The Avenger is a battle cruiser, it's a little more frail than a regular cruiser but packs dual cannons and a big whallop. The Atrox is a carrier, not a sci ship, it has two hangar bays and SST, but no sensor analysis. The rules are consistent for the type of ship.
Romulans are something a little different. Romulans have ONLY Warbirds. Most of them, aside from the D'Deridex and Ha'apex have Cdr Tactical. They all have Romulan Battle Cloaks, access to dual cannons, a certain number of universal Boff seats, +10 weapons/+5 engines, and singularity powers. Size seems to inform their hull HP and shield modifier, maybe turn rate, but nothing else. Having all that makes the Scimitar fundamentally different from a Fed Cruiser or a KDF Battle Cruiser. It's something else entirely. A Warbird. A humongous Warbird with even more DPS potential than the others already had, but nonetheless.
In short, pointing to the Scimitar as reason why the Feds would have a 5 Tac console cruiser is irrelevant, because the Scim is not a cruiser. Likewise the Tac Bort is a battle cruiser, that's something other than a regular cruiser in that it's fundamentally more tac oriented. We could make the argument that if the Feds were going to get a battle cruiser in the Avenger, its fleet version should have been 5 Tac consoles, but that ship has sailed. Feds already have the Fleet Defiant, Kumari 3-pack and Fleet Prometheus with 5 Tac, let's let the KDF have something.
I see scimitars with the turn rate of a klingon bop all the time.. seriously. I dunno how, but i see em all the time... thats another BIG problem.