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Soooo many of the ST ep's were on board the ship o u wanna make a new ep give us something on board our ship
this is Trek how many of yall agree with me?
this is Trek how many of yall agree with me?
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Do i think it will happen? Probably not, which is sad really because our ships could be a great setting for a great variety of scenarios
Totally agree, its a big deal for a lot of players but the devs don't trust themselfs to do it right at the moment
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1026301
But kind of doubt they will do anything like this.. despite of awesome fun factor it would add to the game...
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the best they could do is have a generic interior and come up with a reason as to why we are there which is not that different to some of the early missions, but the game is really not set up to handle all the different set ups and have the attack be on our ship.
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I know Cryptic doesn't want to do it unless they can do it right, and there are technical hurdles firmly in the way at the moment.
But if you don't mind pretending that an interior is your ship, even if it doesn't quite match, there is always the chance that someone can build a Foundry mission that will work for you.
It's certainly not trivial, and there are issues getting it to work right, but doable in the Foundry.
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If you guys play the Purity Foundry arc, they use an observation lounge that isn't normally a part of our ship interiors and pass it off as being on board your ship. To me that was perfectly fine as long as you were on board a Federation ship. For Cryptic missions they could use more generic maps. Although I'm sure someone will be mad about it not conforming to what they think the inside of their ship should look like, but personally I'd be fine doing it that way.
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If and when Cryptic does this, though...I will be extremely excited.
So you are making excuses for being lazy and not willing to do work to earn money? I am baffled at this. They are there to do a job, that job is to create content, that requires them to work. 3 factions is not hard, especially when every ship's layout is the same damn layout as the rest of the faction, those unique ships don't get unique layouts hell they only get a bridge LOL for some of those ships costing 300 dollars or so, it's such a rip off to not have rest of the ship open.
Specifically, Character Generation tech...
Think about it for a minute. Our characters are generated "on the fly" by:
Taking a "base" model, modifying it according to player-set sliders.
Cover said model with a player-selected uniform texture, that is colored by player-selection.
Optionally display kit parts, armor, and weapons as additional textures/objects that are referenced by the equipped stuff.
Now, let's apply this kind of a build to a room:
Create a "base" map, possibly adjusting proportions based on the "bridge size" slider.
Cover said model with a "uniform" / wall texture keyed off of the "installed bridge" identifier.
Display props (consoles, tables, boxes, doors, windows, etc.) based off of the "equipped" bridge's identifier or the player's faction flag - depending on how many models for the desired "prop" exists - consoles would most likely be keying off of bridge, while cargo boxes and tables would key off of faction.
Most of these articles exist already as cut/paste assets in the art department, however, they would most likely need to be appropriately labelled and classified (intern work?) in order to fit this modular design system...
Then, a modularly created room would look "appropriate" based off of the props brought in - and isn't 90% of "canon" sets just redresses and new props?
With a bit of interface work, suddenly you can have a lot more options, too. For example, one of my "peeves" is that I equip the reddish galaxy bridge but my hallways are blue. If, instead, someone went through and marked all the walls of those walls to fill with a player-selected color on the Federation texture (much like I can select the color of my Wrath of Kahn jacket), and added a color-picker box that lets me pick my own wall color for the Galaxy bridge, then my "entire ship" has a uniform paintjob... Yet, when I visit Joe's bridge, the walls fill with his color choices much as I see his color choices on his uniform...
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Hmm, this isn't a bad idea. At least this way they would have less work to do. They would only need a few sections that it might randomly rotate through, and then a handful of themes (some of which already exist) for the areas to match the available faction ships and lockbox ships.
And Genesis map generation in the star clusters. Map terrain A, substitute scannable object B, mob type C, etc.
Or the fleet starbase defenses where the starbase changes based upon the level of the person that owns it; and the mob type changes at random.
And the new Step Between Stars mission path randomizer.
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The big issue is non standard bridges, particulary lock box ships with nothing except bridges.
I did suggest a work around a while back.
At level 50 a new rep track, light on effort along the Dyson lines.
The idea is that you, as an Admiral/General mentor a scout ship and her crew.
You'd be building the ship, recruiting and training crew, that sort of thing.
At the various tiers, mini missions would open up on your mentor ship.
An attack on that ship could be one of them.......
...and the mentor ships would be standardised by faction.
I think the solution longterm would be to have maps for all the interior types and then have the perk of using that interior device be to launch that content from your ship whereas otherwise you'd need to find a patrol ship using that interior.
As awesome as it would be to have a boarding action on the wide variety of bridge/interior combinations available (and it would be awesome), I can definitely respect the technical hurdles involved.
If it doesn't have to be our ship, then they could make it part of a Feature Episode. We've certainly had a lot of "and now pilot this new ship" FEs. That way they could control the bridge/interior used.
Impossible to pull off??? Not really. They could easily just make a story mission that has the Feds/Klinks/Rommies testing out a Capital ship based off the Voth tech we face in the solanae sphere (ship from Breach). It could even be destroyed after the mission to prevent having to leave the HUGE ships in game. Then they could just make a three versions for each faction or maybe just two as the Roms have to align to Fed/Klink anyways.
Then after the test vessel gets destroyed, the major factions could scrap the project do to limited resources, etc.. Could be sort of like the No Win Scenerio but for ground combat inside the ship. Lots of ways they could pull this off. Just takes some imagination.
Yes it would be awesome tho.