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As I have been lvl 50 for about 4 days now, I'm finding the end game to be a bit of an uphill battle. The amount of different types of resources needed is daunting. I know I could get a leg up if I dropped mad cash on game but I rather not do that, not to mention I can't but maybe there is a way of getting ahead in one area of the game. Does anyone have any good advice for maybe sales on the exchange or how to be effective on the exchange? I don't mind grinding either, if its fun. What grinding out there is the most effective for EC, Dilithium, or drops? Also, does anyone have advice about lockbox keys, would like to get some but almost 2 million EC seems pretty high for me right now and everything else I have seen says don't use Zen to buy keys?
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For me, it's flying certain ships and making them work. It's cruising around in a less-popular ship and enjoying it. Some people play Foundry, some play PvP, and some people put themselves in the DPS rat-race.
But for basics, you might want to start with the Omega Reputation. You get plenty of dilithium, vendor trash (stuff you can sell that you pick up), and gear as you progress. There are chat channels like PublicEliteSTF that you can join to jump in on games so that you don't have to do public queue.
So, what do you want to do? What's your favorite part of Star Trek?
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Focus on improving your reps.
Run lootomatic 3000 in the foundry every day.
Doff. There are lots of.guides out there.
I would ignore keys and lock boxes for at least a month as a new player.
Getting ahead in this game is pointless. Enjoy where you are at and enjoy the ride.
As in the game of Life, this is a valid question, to which I would respond:
Ahead of What?
My advice, which should be taken with a ginormous grain of Salt:
Play the game to enjoy the game. Don't play to 'win' - there is no 'win'; there is only 'fun' (as long as it isn't at the expense of others' 'fun').
Many guides out there to increase your 'fun', your understanding of the game, your expertise in different areas - but don't let them interfere with having fun.
The game is relatively easy. ie, Everyone that tells you that the Galaxy class starship is 'suxxorz' - TRIBBLE them, play it anyway, if it gives you fun. [granted, I wish some ships (like the Galaxy) were better, but I digress. :P ]
Here in this reddit post I placed a large, messy list of links - guides I've used and continue to use. Enjoy, and again I apologize for sullying the internets.
http://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/1yineh/help_with_endgame_goals/
Have fun!
It seems the vast majority of your most active players (forum regulars) hate the idea... and while that's a small subset of the playerbase, I think it's an important constituency.
THE PLAYERS DO NOT WANT THIS.
Honestly, grinding at level 50 doing foundry farming missions is stupid. Because all the stuff you will get, you cant sell it on the exchange. Not unless you sell it for ridiculous prices. And you get almost the same about of EC just selling em to the vendor..
Just doing the normal run a normal day and selling all the stuff u get you will gather the same ammount or even more than doing grinding missions..
If im not getting more than 50% of the original price on the exchange, i just sold the item at the vendor.. there is no point really on doing farming foundry missions. I will never understand the people who does that lol.
If you want ec, just gather dilithium, and then exchange for zen and buy master keys. That is the fastest way to gather huge ammounts of ec without wasting time.
That is as well the better way to buy master keys. I will NEVER pay 2 million of Ecs to buy a master key, its stupid lol. But some people does that, well if you have millions and millions of EC, you can waste 2 on a master key, but its ridiculous.
The prices on the exchange are so high, that some things are just impossible to buy if you dont want to look like a dumb person lol.
But is the way this game works. Grinding and grinding. Everything is so expensive that you need months to gather any resource you want. And thats the way cryptic wants it as well, the more time you need the more probabilties are that you will buy at some point zen here and there, and a lot of people will think the same way.
2. Acquiring Dilithium: Voth ground battlezone is a good way to do this, as are the STFs as altechachan mentioned
3. Reputation: Dyson reputation is the easiest and cheapest to complete and has helpful rewards, and you'll be rolling in dyson marks anyway if you're spending a lot of time in the Voth battlezone. Omega reputation has very nice set rewards, and once again you'll be acquiring plenty of omega marks since you'll be running STFs for the dilithium anyway, so you're killing 4 birds with 2 stones by playing STFs and battlezone a lot. These should probably be your first 2 reputations to focus on.
4. EC: The looting foundry missions, or fleet actions with a lot of enemies (SB24, Gorn Mine Field, Crystal Entity, Fleet Alert, Starbase Defense etc.) and pray that you get plenty of Shield/Deflector/Engine/Warp/Singularity core drops because those are the most valuable to sell to a vendor (don't discard in your replicator unless you have to free up emergency space for more loot; in which case save the mentioned gear for lass and ditch cheaper stuff first). At the same time, if you place first in some of the fleet actions (notably the first 3 I mentioned) there's a chance that you can get some nice purple XI gear that will also sell well on the exchange, again making your use of time more efficient.
5. Doff. Max out your commendations to unlock more assignments, do the assignment chains. The doff system is a valuable stream of income both from assignment rewards (dilithium, items, fleet marks), and from acquiring valuable purple doffs from lucky drops that sell for millions on the exchange. This can take a while, especially doing every one of the colony chains, but is well worth it in the end. Additionally these shiny doffs will help out the rest of your gameplay with active and passive modifications to your combat abilities.
6. Find a fleet like mamif3 said. Any good fleet worth its salt will help you advance, or at the very least team up and play the end-game content to make things easier for the rest of your advancement. Also they'll have shiny gear. Mmmm delicious shiny gear.
You've noticed that there's quite a lot of stuff at level 50. Don't try to grind it all at once. Focus on a few areas and apply your energies there, then the next thing, and the next thing as you get better at doing it all or as you finish one area and are able to focus on another. (Like, you can leave the Nukara reputation for last as it doesn't have any must-have rewards that you'll want asap.)
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-You probably own a cell phone, which is basically portable entertainment. You probably pay $30+ a month for this "service", if not more. This is as much or more than a sub to STO.
- you probably sometimes go out to eat, to the tune of $20- $50. This is as much or more than a new ship.
- you probably have cable tv, also entertainment, and also as much as a STO sub.
- you apparently have internet, which is as much as STO.
Or in a nutshell, $25 for some entertainment is not an insane use of money in today's world. Its one *cheap* night out (probably alone), or a ship you could enjoy for 6+ months in this game. If you had a night out with a date, you could probably buy everything you would ever need in STO for cash -- certainly all you need for months (a ship, EC cap, maybe shared vault, etc, say $50 worth).
As for getting ahead, its a slow process but that is the game: if you had it all in a week, then what? Work on all 4 reps every day; just getting those on the 20 hour cooldown should keep you busy. Can't afford it? sell vendor trash while you earn something --- do a rom rep daily tour for loot, do a KDF defense for dil, etc. Raise an epohh. Do some STFs normal mode. Do something that is fun and stop worrying about getting ahead.
dude, lockboxes are a loser's game. The odds of getting something nice are like 1 in 100 or worse.
The good news is that gear moves from ship to ship, mostly (a few things are tied to a ship type like specific hangar pets or consoles). And you can get a bunch of cheap ships to mess with, then buy the one you like best, check out some mirror ships, for example, and do the next freebie (should be in the spring?).
In all seriousness run Omega ques on normal difficulty (once a piece) the drops are a good value to sell to a vender and will get you enough marks/ec to start a few Omega Rep projects. Once you feel comfortable try them in elite, right away if you like (but if you do that try to go with friends rather than a random group, some people can be quite rude if you miss the optionals)
I already cut the cable cord, was paying $130 a month.
Yeah this last freebie didn't help me much, as my main is an engineer but I have a science officer that has the ship but not lvl 40 yet. Is the science destroyer considered a tier 5 ship though?
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So its at the same level as my Sovereign class ship I have right now anyway. Its hard to see that difference between T5 VA and T5.5 VA, how can you tell this? I've been using this site:
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship
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So to use your Sovereign example, there is a T5 RA ship you get for free. You can buy a T5 VA Regent version from the C-Store that comes with a special torpedo. You can also buy a T5 Fleet version from the Fleet Store which comes with extra an Console slot and buffed stats.
I do not understand the tiers really. Its a 9 console ship, so its not the top tier, regardless. The store versions are top tier. Being able to use it at 40 is a clue.
One console and a little bit of armor and shields is not going to make or break you though. You can use the cheap and free ships to see what you like, so you buy the best one for your style.
Plenty of people play 9 console ships due to lack of funds. They are quite capable of doing anything in the game apart from top tier pvp, which to be brutally honest with you will not be accessible to you for many months at the earliest unless you dump more than a little money (NOW we are talking MAD money, you could drop $500 getting set up for pvp, buying ships just to get a console, buying keys for lobi for toys, etc).
Run Step Between Stars (the Tuvok mission) three times. Get three of the 4 pieces to that set. You've now got a purple mk xii engine, shield and deflector. Easy peasy and a start.
Then when you start your reputation grind, the two that are easiest are the Dyson rep (it's easiest to complete), and the Omega Rep (it's still the one most people queue up for the quickest). Try to get some insight from friends or fleetmates on how the Borg STFs go, and then do them on elite till your eyes bleed.
After that, it's really up to you on how you want to continue. Understand that it's a long road of many different grinds. Just do enough of what you enjoy and don't get burned out. And there's a ton of good advice in this thread so I'd follow that stuff too.
I just thought I'd point out that for a brand new level 50, the Solonae set is super easy to get 3 pieces for and that's a great start for end-game.
I agree, its purple gear that can be had rather easily and better than green drops.
But that means doing an annoying (and long) mission over and over for gear that... boosts your aux power.
The solanae deflector isnt bad. I would then mix things up a bit, rather than repeat that mission, go get the jem-H impulse engines. Those add weapon power, much more useful. I would then re-run the low level mission to get the paratrinic shields, which have a massive capacity at mark XI and will do until you get a fleet shield. The purple free shields are rather poor.
Follow that if you want by running a mission to get weapons, for example one of them gives blue XI disruptor-plasma hybrid cannons that will do until you get top items, others have beams, there are several decent free blue XI weapons you can grind by repeats. There is another purple set from the breen quest line. But purple or blue, look thru the rewards to find what fits your needs because you will be using most of it for several months, and you can earn most of it in 1-2 days --- all 100% free.
Adquiring master keys is easy. Do what i said in my previous post, gather 8000 refined dilithium (8500 if you are in a fleet) with 2 toons. Then trade that dilithium for zen. You can buy 1 master key with that. So, every day you can gather about 120-125 zen doing that. A master key costs 125 zen. Piece of cake. If you have 4 toons, you can buy 2 master keys.. and so on.
Now , the problem start when you want master keys, you want gear, you want dilithium, you want ec and you want everything.. its just not possible. Because STO is not designed for it.
Plus, if you are in a fleet you will need some dilithium and fleet marks and something else to spare.. in the end, you will need every resource you can gather.
In the end, you will need even a lot more dilithium than the quantity you can refine, and you will be even using the dil-zen-dil trade system again to gain even more dilithium.. but this is the way it works. You need patience, A LOT of it.
There are three thing you need to ask yourself before you go down the Alt. character road is two things.
1. Do you have the time to do it?
2. Do you want to do it?
3. Is it worth it?
If you answer no to anyone of those question's then don't make an Alternate.
Yes, you can use them to give resource's to your main character. However, that is time consuming if you are going to do Daily's with both your main and your Alternate. Not to mention your going to have to level up that Alt to a level were they can be useful farmer character to you. That is going to take time and work.
However if you do think you can handle a second character I can offer this advice.
I don't know what you rolled for your first character so I'll just say this. If your first character is a Federation Captain, make the second a Romulan. If your first character is a Klingon make the second a Romulan.
Note: If you have a Romulan then make a character on the side your Rommie's with.
I say Romulan's because the Battle Cloak's are fun, and they can side with either the Klingon's or the Federation. That mean's you can help out a fleet; if you have one, and still experiment with new build's and classes outside of whatever your first made. Plus, you have new content to go through not forcing you to have to replay the same mission's all over again. You can play a new character on the opposing side to. However, if you ever look to join a fleet having two character's on the same side will be more useful.
Otherwise, I say just have fun. Find a good build and a ship you enjoy and make it work. Seem's like you don't have the EC/Zen so don't get caught up in DPS number's. Your not going to get all purple gear right away and you don't need to push for it like a lunatic. Rare/Blue is more than than enough to get the job done until you can get purple gear.
I already did this, day I hit 50 too. My weapons are my worst gear and consoles.
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Actually did just that.
Main Fed Eng.
Alt Rom Sci
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