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In terms of overall damage and usefulness what are the best energy weapon types? By types i mean Phaser, Tetryon, Polaron, Plasma, Plasma/Distruptor, things like that.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Anti-proton is usually first choice for damage since it's proc happens every time you crit. However, if you can't crit too often, it becomes useless. At this point you'll probably want to consider disruptor for the -resistance proc.

    Though, chances are your crit chance is higher than 2.5% (the proc chance) so AP will probably work best.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The most important point: All weapons (given same mark and rarity) have the same base damage. Therefore the only real difference is the special proc each weapon has (each with only a small chance to apply):

    Phaser - disable subsystem
    disruptor - resistance debuff
    antiproton - crit damage

    Tetryon - shield damage
    polaron - drains energy

    plasma - hull damage (least useful in PvP due to inherent plasma resistance of most endgame sets)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Schneemann wrote: »
    The most important point: All weapons (given same mark and rarity) have the same base damage. Therefore the only real difference is the special proc each weapon has (each with only a small chance to apply):

    Phaser - disable subsystem
    disruptor - resistance debuff
    antiproton - crit damage

    Tetryon - shield damage
    polaron - drains energy

    plasma - hull damage (least useful in PvP due to inherent plasma resistance of most endgame sets)

    It should be noted that not all procs deal equal damage either.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Another note, AntiProton weapons have no proc at all. They simply have increased ctrd.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Idali wrote:
    Another note, AntiProton weapons have no proc at all. They simply have increased ctrd.
    That's technically a proc--since CrtD only activates on a critical.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Anti-Proton would probably be one of the best choices. Besides the little details of what everyone talks about, it's also the one weapon type people defend against the least. With phasers and disruptors being the energy type people defend against the most. Especially in terms of resistance building armor consoles.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Schneemann wrote: »
    The most important point: All weapons (given same mark and rarity) have the same base damage. Therefore the only real difference is the special proc each weapon has (each with only a small chance to apply):

    Phaser - disable subsystem
    disruptor - resistance debuff
    antiproton - crit damage

    Tetryon - shield damage
    polaron - drains energy

    plasma - hull damage (least useful in PvP due to inherent plasma resistance of most endgame sets)

    Actually the Polarized Tetryon weapons from "The New Link" Cardassian quest have a 10% chance each to proc their anti shield effects
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    My beam boats use Anti-Proton. My Klingon uses a mix of Tetryon and Polaron.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    It depends a bit on the ship you fly and what you are doing.

    For the MVAE and Galaxy X (Dreadnaught) the best bet is usually Phasers so that in the first case you maximize your pet's strength and between you have a huge chance to Proc. With the Galaxy X you want to increase the power of your Lance.

    With the Guramba you want to go Disruptor for the same reason the Galaxy X goes Phaser.

    With all other ships it is generally a toss up between two types: Antiproton which give the highest personal DPS or Disruptors which will lower enemy resistances allowing you to get more damage out of EVERYTHING including your torps, pets, sci abilities, warp plasma, and any team mates firing at the target.

    Tetryons are decent but their inability to do anything extra to the Hull makes them lack-luster and against Player ships like Cruisers you will find them next to useless. Polaron are OK if you are running a heavy power drain build but otherwise their proc is not that noticeable and generally Phasers get the desired result quicker. Plasma is just USELESS. Its proc is so immensely weak that Antiproton easily kicks its butt and now many people have Plasma resists thanks to the STF sets.
  • darthjoker1darthjoker1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It depends a bit on the ship you fly and what you are doing.

    For the MVAE and Galaxy X (Dreadnaught) the best bet is usually Phasers so that in the first case you maximize your pet's strength and between you have a huge chance to Proc. With the Galaxy X you want to increase the power of your Lance.

    With the Guramba you want to go Disruptor for the same reason the Galaxy X goes Phaser.

    With all other ships it is generally a toss up between two types: Antiproton which give the highest personal DPS or Disruptors which will lower enemy resistances allowing you to get more damage out of EVERYTHING including your torps, pets, sci abilities, warp plasma, and any team mates firing at the target.

    Tetryons are decent but their inability to do anything extra to the Hull makes them lack-luster and against Player ships like Cruisers you will find them next to useless. Polaron are OK if you are running a heavy power drain build but otherwise their proc is not that noticeable and generally Phasers get the desired result quicker. Plasma is just USELESS. Its proc is so immensely weak that Antiproton easily kicks its butt and now many people have Plasma resists thanks to the STF sets.
    You state plasma is useless, but yet I have seen some of the highest DPS in the game coming from plasma. Only antiproton has beat it. Plasma and disruptor run neck and neck. Not sure were you get your info, or the build you have tried with plasma, but I have hit 20k dps with my plasma build.
  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You state plasma is useless, but yet I have seen some of the highest DPS in the game coming from plasma. Only antiproton has beat it. Plasma and disruptor run neck and neck. Not sure were you get your info, or the build you have tried with plasma, but I have hit 20k dps with my plasma build.

    well, as that was posted 2 years ago.... it's "a little" out of date.

    just like necro posting was "so yesterday":P
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The only difference between a weapon and another is the proc. Antiproton deals more damage, but in the "real" world, i noticed they are really more useless than any other weapon.

    Just go for the weapon type you like the most, or just for their proc. If you have a science ship, you need weapons with high accuracy, so quantums will work great. For example, thats the only reason to choose one weapon or another, but not the damage. The damage is almost the same in all weapons.

    I dont see too many phaser users in the game, they probably think phasers are weak, again. They are exactly like disruptor beams, plasma beams and any other beam in terms of dmg lol. The only diff is the proc.

    I have disruptors and photons on my klingon toon, for example with no any special reason, just because i like the visuals of photons and i want a classic klingon ship, not carried with rare weapons like chronitons or other weapons like transphasics that are really far from a classic klingon weapon. And thats the build i am trying to boost. And i dont care if anti proton deals more damage lol, cuz fortunately that doesnt matter in this game.

    Plasmas are the most dangeours torps in the game, a single high yelded plasma can even drain half of the ship's hull points.

    BUT, high yielded plasmas against shields are useless. Thats the reason, plasmas sometimes are really dangeorus or sometimes are just regular weapons. Thats the reason the AI always use tractor beam on you and after that they release the high yield plasmas. Because by that time your shield should be down and if you dont scape, your dead.
  • ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    it's also the one weapon type people defend against the least.

    Ummm, sry but no.

    APs are so widely used in pvp that i wouldn't go into pvp without a Shield with AP res bonus.
    In addition, its hull damage is almost equal to other types since everyone nowadays uses Neutronium Alloys that improve ALL Damage Res.
    I would personally say Disruptor/Plasma-Disruptor, since they're most useful in various uses, in pve as well as pvp.
    Additionally, disruptor proc also buffs other weapons when procing, as well as your teams damage against the debuffed target.

    3rd advantage is the higher diversity of Disruptor type weps (Standard, Nanite, Elachi, Spiral wave) compared to APs
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    when this post was started 2 years ago...most of the info was actually correct. LOOK at the date before necroing the **** out of something...the game moved on, so should the forum users.
    Go pro or go home
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Lol, im not going to look at the date everytime i write in a post. The threads that are necro should be just removed from the active forum. Its not my fault that cryptic forum admins are not doing that.
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    when the author of a thread is called "archived post" you just know you are going to necro it.

    also when the fool of the day is quoting this infamous Mr. archived post, you know this thread is older than your grandma!
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  • jockey1979jockey1979 Member Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Lol, im not going to look at the date everytime i write in a post. The threads that are necro should be just removed from the active forum. Its not my fault that cryptic forum admins are not doing that.

    This ^^

    What is wrong with an auto delete for threads over 6 months old ???

    Most MMOs information is out of date in a few weeks, so 6 months should be more than enough time to save anything.
  • eardianmeardianm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Lol, im not going to look at the date everytime i write in a post. The threads that are necro should be just removed from the active forum. Its not my fault that cryptic forum admins are not doing that.


    Props to you, shining paragon of accountability.
  • terragosaterragosa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You state plasma is useless, but yet I have seen some of the highest DPS in the game coming from plasma. Only antiproton has beat it. Plasma and disruptor run neck and neck. Not sure were you get your info, or the build you have tried with plasma, but I have hit 20k dps with my plasma build.

    AP is by far the worst damage type nowadays.
  • paxfederaticapaxfederatica Member Posts: 1,496 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    This ^^

    What is wrong with an auto delete for threads over 6 months old ???

    Most MMOs information is out of date in a few weeks, so 6 months should be more than enough time to save anything.

    Indeed, most other message boards I've used over the years don't care about necros, or even encourage them, so the boards don't get cluttered with dozens and dozens of old threads on basically the same topic just sitting there.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Indeed, most other message boards I've used over the years don't care about necros, or even encourage them, so the boards don't get cluttered with dozens and dozens of old threads on basically the same topic just sitting there.

    going into that is discussing moderation. out here any thread not shown activity beyond a certain amount of time is considered a dead thread and any further replies on it after that time means its been necro'd, moderators dont like it and if you wanted more accurate answer to your question in any event you should of started a new thread up.
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  • snoggymack22snoggymack22 Member Posts: 7,084 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jockey1979 wrote: »
    What is wrong with an auto delete for threads over 6 months old ???

    Most MMOs information is out of date in a few weeks, so 6 months should be more than enough time to save anything.

    In this game, I'd say most great information has been lost or mangled.

    An example: Auto deleting old threads would prompt even MORE people to unknowingly equip EPS Flow Regulators thinking they did something useful to energy drain on multiple beams firing. (See my sig link for why that's bad information ... it's a link to an old thread).
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    In this game, I'd say most great information has been lost or mangled.

    An example: Auto deleting old threads would prompt even MORE people to unknowingly equip EPS Flow Regulators thinking they did something useful to energy drain on multiple beams firing. (See my sig link for why that's bad information ... it's a link to an old thread).

    You think eps transfer is useless for beams....

    I think your a tad outdated man. They aren't the most optimal but they still help the overcapping
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You state plasma is useless, but yet I have seen some of the highest DPS in the game coming from plasma. Only antiproton has beat it. Plasma and disruptor run neck and neck. Not sure were you get your info, or the build you have tried with plasma, but I have hit 20k dps with my plasma build.

    Ensign, send a message to Cryptic Command: we have engaged the Necro.

    Darthjoker1, seeing that this was your first post on the forums, let me enlighten you. Neither Cryptic, neither Perfect World and neither the players like necro threads. Necro-ing is posting in a thread that has been inactive for at least 30 days. This one was more than a year inactive.

    If you wish to continue talking about the subject, start a new thread.


    I'm expecting a mod to close this thread down in a matter of hours.
  • osiabunnyosiabunny Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    So according to this thread, Anti Protons got fixed? I remember when their proc did not happen at all making them the worst damage type to get.

    Also people damn you if you post a subject already in the forums, then damn you if you necro the subject. WTF people, be consistant. Stop condemning people for posting in the forums.
  • killdozer9211killdozer9211 Member Posts: 919 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    How do people even find threads to necro? You have to dig a corpse up before it becomes a Frankenstein, you knew what you were doing when you posted.
  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2014
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Hey hey now!

    BAD ZOMBIE BAD GO BACK TO THE GROUND!

    Seriously folks, if a thread hasn't been responded too in 30 days please don't bring it back up :( If you feel you need to continue the thread by all means make a new one! :)


    PS - Ya know you guys could oh i dunno contact a mod instead of actually replying TO the necro post ;)
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