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sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
edited February 2014 in The Academy
Just a quick question here, but why oh why can the account bank hold a maximum of 500 million energy credits? When the Energy credit cap is 1 billion? Can the account bank be altered as to allow the full 1 billion to be stored in there?
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My guess is that they don't want to deal with too much data going from account to another. That's why they put a limit on mail attachments.

    It isn' tlogical, per say.. But that's how MMOs work.
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    daqhegh wrote: »
    My guess is that they don't want to deal with too much data going from account to another. That's why they put a limit on mail attachments.

    It isn' tlogical, per say.. But that's how MMOs work.

    The OP wasn't talking about transfers between different accounts or the mail system.... ;)

    I too find it odd that a character can have more "money" on him than an actual bank.....
  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The account bank should be able to hold more then that I think your talking about the deposit amount.

    Never mind you are right i logged in and checked it is only 500,000,000 allowed kinda dumb.But i think the fleet bank unlimited.
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Here's a better question: Who actually has that many credits? Maybe a very few of us, sure. But I doubt it's enough to make this conversation worthwhile.
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  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    daqhegh wrote: »
    Here's a better question: Who actually has that many credits? Maybe a very few of us, sure. But I doubt it's enough to make this conversation worthwhile.

    People that scam others in the exchange have that kinda money.
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  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I tend to dump mine into stuff for new toons before I can get that much.
  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    xcom43 wrote: »
    People that scam others in the exchange have that kinda money.

    To assume that anyone having so many ec is a scammer is rather bold. I never scammed anyone and still reached the account bank limit. :rolleyes:
  • empireofsteveempireofsteve Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Last year I got a Jrm attack ship in three doff packs. I traded it for 80 new packs. Each time I got at least one ship pergroup of packs, sometimes two. I made a LOT off of doing that with no actual money. The ooriginal ones were from my monthly stupid.
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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    xcom43 wrote: »
    People that scam others in the exchange have that kinda money.

    I resent that comment! I've never scammed anyone in game or real life for that matter. Ask anyone in game who knows me and they'll tell you the same. That everything I've got I've worked my TRIBBLE off for. I've picked up some bargains across the exchange from time to time. I've even gone as far as buying up items that are priced below 50% of the vendor value and turned them over to the vendor. I doff every four hours on the dot without fail, constantly run dailies and stuff like STF's and yes I've even sold fleet marks from time to time.
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  • trycksh0ttrycksh0t Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Given what banks have done in recent years, would YOU trust them with that much currency?
  • crappyturbocrappyturbo Member Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Good point trycksh0t.
  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    It must be very hard for you to sit in your chair to use your computer what with all that butthurt you are suffering from. :P

    Dude way don't you freaking grow the hell up.
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  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    First off let me say i have played the game for three years in a row and deiced to take a break for a while.

    And i know how the exchange works.Ok

    I am one of the first few that are founders.

    I understand if there are Special items that go for a large amount of EC I understand that ok.

    But there are people out there that are selling stuff like common and uncommon stuff that drop in missions and selling it for 40 or 50 million on the exchange.Now telling me that this not ripping people off.

    I am not saying every body is ripping every body off in a away every body is but in a sense most of these higher priced items are being sold bye Gold spammers or are just being put in exchange for extra storage be leave me i have done this my self a couple of times.

    Hell i sold fleet ship module to night for 6.5million mainly due to the fact the highest price in the list too night was 7.5million.So i sold my item a little quicker then they probably put the item back up for sell at a higher sell price.

    But any away be for i ramble on here you get my point.On what i am talking about.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    xcom43 wrote: »
    But there are people out there that are selling stuff like common and uncommon stuff that drop in missions and selling it for 40 or 50 million on the exchange.Now telling me that this not ripping people off.
    I am not really certain what your point is. If someone is willing to spend 40-50 million on some Common/Uncommon item then it obviously has value to them. If no one is buying the items at that price then it obviously has no value at that cost.

    If you sold your Fleet Modules for 6.5 million ECs and you were happy with that price what do you care if someone else buys it and re-lists it for 7.5 million? You got what you wanted out of it. How is it cheating if you are happy and someone else also tries to make themselves happy? If you feel cheated then sell for a higher price yourself.
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  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well that was my point really in many ways i do and don't care.Depends on the item i want or some body else wants is all.But you do got to admit there are items on the exchange right now that are too far high priced at the moment.But most likely they will drop in time till the next time the event shows up.

    And to get back on to topic here.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    xcom43 wrote: »
    Well that was my point really in many ways i do and don't care.Depends on the item i want or some body else wants is all.But you do got to admit there are items on the exchange right now that are too far high priced at the moment.But most likely they will drop in time till the next time the event shows up.
    The prices on the Exchange generally represent a value someone is willing to pay. As I said above, if no one is willing to pay 40 million for something then the price will be reduced.

    Every market, real or gaming, lives in a state of equilibrium: balanced around what someone is willing to pay. It is not fair to blame the sellers for the prices if people have no impulse control and are willing to pay the price.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    There are also people that use the exchange as temporary storage, and they use those ridiculously high prices because they know that no one will buy them. This happens in every MMO that has a version of the exchange.
    I understand that. I just do not understand how that has any impact on the Exchange or what people are willing to pay?

    If I do a Search for Purple Acc x3 Photon Torpedoes and I see 325 being sold for 1 million ECs each and 50 being sold for 200 million ECs I am clearly not going to buy the ones for 200 million. It does not take Sherlock Holmes to recognize what items are in "storage" in the Exchange. :)
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    xcom43 wrote: »
    First off let me say i have played the game for three years in a row and deiced to take a break for a while.

    And i know how the exchange works.Ok

    I am one of the first few that are founders.

    I understand if there are Special items that go for a large amount of EC I understand that ok.

    But there are people out there that are selling stuff like common and uncommon stuff that drop in missions and selling it for 40 or 50 million on the exchange.Now telling me that this not ripping people off.

    I am not saying every body is ripping every body off in a away every body is but in a sense most of these higher priced items are being sold bye Gold spammers or are just being put in exchange for extra storage be leave me i have done this my self a couple of times.

    Hell i sold fleet ship module to night for 6.5million mainly due to the fact the highest price in the list too night was 7.5million.So i sold my item a little quicker then they probably put the item back up for sell at a higher sell price.

    But any away be for i ramble on here you get my point.On what i am talking about.

    you obviously have no idea how it works at all, its called supply and demand.
    it does not matter how items are marked up as being common uncommon rare what matters is how often they actually make an appearance in game.
    you could have an item marked very rare that everyone and their mum owns and you could have an item that is marked common that is in fact very rare.
    this is what sets the price of an item, if you have an item that there are loads of and you are trying to sell it for 50mil you wont get very far as there will be 100s of others selling the same for 100 - 200 ec.
    whenever I sell an item I look to see what the lowest price is, if the price is low and there are a lot its obvious I wont get much either, if the price is high and im after a quick sale I will put it on for slightly less then the lowest, if there are one or two fairly low but after that the price shoots up I might hang on and see what happens before i list it.

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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Hang on a minute!

    We're all going off topic now. The original comment was about the fact that we can only hold 500mil ec in the account bank. I didn't mention anything about using the exchange as storage space or anything like. All I was asking is if there are other people frustrated by this limit and if so can they say so on here. Now as per usual its gone off on a tangent we people ranting and raving about lack or storage. Hell all Ive got in my bank/inventory is items that I need/use granted I've got a few that I'm holding onto until their value rises but if push comes to shove and I desperately need the storage space I'll start moving stuff around between toons and maybe even make use of a couple of my fleets restricted bank tabs.
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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    On the topic here.

    I guess that the 500 million ec limit is due to the same number on the Exchange. Maybe it was put there before the max amount any character could have at any time was still 500 million. Not sure if that ever was the case.

    But personally, I don't worry about it. With the rate I'm spending EC for my fleet, I only once managed to get 12.3 million ec on my account bank. That's right, I'm poor :D. And still I manage to enjoy the game! What does this learn me? I don't need hundreds of millions of ec in this game!
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  • sqwishedsqwished Member Posts: 1,475 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    rahmkota19 wrote: »
    On the topic here.

    I guess that the 500 million ec limit is due to the same number on the Exchange. Maybe it was put there before the max amount any character could have at any time was still 500 million. Not sure if that ever was the case.

    But personally, I don't worry about it. With the rate I'm spending EC for my fleet, I only once managed to get 12.3 million ec on my account bank. That's right, I'm poor :D. And still I manage to enjoy the game! What does this learn me? I don't need hundreds of millions of ec in this game!

    Just out of curiosity I'm wondering what level your fleet holdings are at the minute?
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  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I am pretty close to the 10 million EC cap in F2P. I have been considering paying to increase the cap to 1 billion EC, but has that cap truly been reduced to 500 million? While 500 million is still a lot, it is half of the supposed limit as stated in the Zen store.

    I don't want to go off tangent, but I am not allowed yet to start my own thread. How long before a new player is able to start a thread? I think it has been about 29 days for me....

    Anywaste, regarding the exchange... How long does an item stay on the exchange before it get's returned to you? It seems to be a bit inconsistent. For example, I listed something for sale on the Exchange on day 10. It did not sell so on day 25 I took it off to reduce the price by about 10% and it sold the next day. However, twice I listed items after day 10, but I believe I received an e-mail before day 25 stating that the item did not sell and was sent back to me. I say "believe" because I have a habit of quickly clicking the delete button. Anyway, I checked both my inventory and bank and those "returned" items were not in there. I checked the exchange and those items have definitely been de-listed.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    I am pretty close to the 10 million EC cap in F2P. I have been considering paying to increase the cap to 1 billion EC, but has that cap truly been reduced to 500 million? While 500 million is still a lot, it is half of the supposed limit as stated in the Zen store.
    They are discussing the Account Bank cap, not the Gold Subscription Character cap. The Account Bank is limited to 500. Gold Characters can still have 1 billion.
    I don't want to go off tangent, but I am not allowed yet to start my own thread. How long before a new player is able to start a thread? I think it has been about 29 days for me....
    I believe it is 30 full days or buying something from the C-Store with money.
    Anywaste, regarding the exchange... How long does an item stay on the exchange before it get's returned to you? It seems to be a bit inconsistent. For example, I listed something for sale on the Exchange on day 10. It did not sell so on day 25 I took it off to reduce the price by about 10% and it sold the next day. However, twice I listed items after day 10, but I believe I received an e-mail before day 25 stating that the item did not sell and was sent back to me. I say "believe" because I have a habit of quickly clicking the delete button. Anyway, I checked both my inventory and bank and those "returned" items were not in there. I checked the exchange and those items have definitely been de-listed.
    I really do not remember. Hopefully someone else can answer that.
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