test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

Temporal Cruiser - Premonition Class

kiloacekiloace Member Posts: 488 Arc User
edited March 2014 in Federation Discussion
Minimum Rank: RA (Possibly changed due to vanity items)
Hull: 36,500
Shield Mod: 1.25
Fore Weapons: 4
Aft Weapons: 4
Crew: 600
Consoles: 3, 4, 3
Devices: 4
Boffs: Cmdr. Eng, Lt. Cmdr. Sci, Lt. Tac, Lt. Uni, Ens Uni
Turn Rate: 9
Impulse Mod: .15

EDIT:

Special Prizes! The Ship comes with:

[Ionic Prism Deflector Array Mk XII] - Unique Deflector Dish
Very Rare Ship Deflector Dish

+10% Phaser Damage
+32.8 Starship Flow Capacitors (Shield and Power Drains)
+32.8 Starship Power Insulators (Shield/Power Drain Resist)
+16.9 Starship Shield System (Shield Hit Points)
+8.4 Starship Structural Integrity (Hull Hit Points)
+8.4 Starship Hull Repair (Base Rate and Hull Heals)
Post edited by kiloace on

Comments

  • kestrelliuskestrellius Member Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Meh...the model doesn't look right for a temporal ship. At all. The idea of a temporal cruiser is a good one, though, to be sure.

    Uncharted? So...we go back in time, and team up with Nathan Drake to stop the Iconians?
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    What have we said about stealing stuff from other games? THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Two things.

    1) It's from another game, so the chances of it happening are basically zero.

    2) It's uglier than the Jupiter and the Typhoon combined.
    NJ9oXSO.png
    "Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
    -Thomas Marrone
  • crash490rcrash490r Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I like the idea, but using art from another game is a good way to get your idea in a scrap heap.

    Try coming up with some concept art of your own as a starting point, so if the devs were to look at it, at least they wouldn't have to pay another game royalties for using their design.
    LTS Since 2012
    do1ao9.jpg
  • frosttfishfrosttfish Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I always thought it looked like a dodgey sovereign class, with a purple tube on its back.
  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I dont like the image but i do like the idea of s temporal cruiser
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    2) It's uglier than the Jupiter and the Typhoon combined.

    You take that back sir :eek:.
    22762792376_ac7c992b7c_o.png
    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • arvistaljikarvistaljik Member Posts: 126 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Here's a few pics of a re-modeled Premonition-class made for Bridge Commander:

    Premonition Screenshot 1
    Premonition Screenshot 2
    Premonition Screenshot 3
    Premonition Screenshot 4

    The re-modeled version does look much better than the original from ST:Armada.
  • steaensteaen Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I have no particular objection to the idea of a Temporal Cruiser, but that image is as ugly as sin irrespective of it being another game.

    It doesn't "look" Temporal to me in any way.
  • crash490rcrash490r Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Looks like a Sovvy that someone kitbashed a Luna mission pod onto.
    LTS Since 2012
    do1ao9.jpg
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    My pref would be a Temporal Flight Deck Cruiser.

    Aeon pet. Maybe a Choniton DHC. Based on the Wells/Mobius (ie. no nacelles aside from the kind that go up and down) but basically a bigger, more boat like take on the Wells but with a few very subtle nods to the J.

    Just did some quick counting and at the rate they go through Enterprises, they should be up to the Enterprise-T by the 29th century when it's all timeships.

    Would be fun to see the 29th century Enterprise.

    I think if we're in that RSTUVW phase of Enterprise letters, it would be fun for them to be Greek letters.

    Why?

    1701-Lowercase Sigma would represent both, in theory, the Enterprise-S. But as a geeky math joke, it might also indicate that it's within a standard deviation of the Enterprise. This goes with the theme of a ship called the RELATIVITY and also an era when they run around integrating people and things due to time paradoxes. It's a world where things can be mostly true but not 100% true. By that point, they're dealing with probability so much that a person could be 95% guilty of a crime because they did it in 95% of timelines and 5% innocent because they didn't do it in the other 5%. So there's the joke. It's within a standard deviation of being the Enterprise. It's more or less not another ship. Even better of it's Enterprise +/- Lowercase Sigma. CONFUSION! Yay!

    1701-Tau would be funny because the TAU was a rocket designed to test general relativity.

    1701-Upsilon would be funny because Pythagoras used upsilon (which looks like the letter Y) to represent alternate paths, a fork in the road.

    Phi is used to represent characteristic probability distributions. So... 1701-Phi would be the Enterprise minus all characteristic plausibility. Or maybe ship registries start getting algebraic by the point and you have a ship that's the NCC-Phi Function of 1701, or the characteristic probability function of Enterprises.

    Chi represents the intersection between soul and mind in Plato's worldview. I think you'd be going too far with the symbolism of an Enterprise-Chi (at that point, symbolically, the Federation would become like Q if you decide to adopt Greek symbolism, transcending the physical universe, time, and space for questions outside of all that)

    But these all work for me as late era Enerprise designations so I dig the idea of switching to Greek letters in that RSTUV phase of the alphabet. And it would be perfectly in the spirit of Relativity's mindbending components to have a ship registry that doubles as a mathematical function or equation. It would crack me up to have a character say something like,

    "I'm so and so, captain of what is probably the Timeship Enterprise."
    "Probably?"
    "Nothing about the timeline is certain. But, yes, probably."
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If a Temporal Cruiser is ever added to the game, then it will be just as rare and costly as the Bulwark and JHAS and obtained through the same method. So about 300 to 500 million EC and only available a couple of times each year.
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    You take that back sir :eek:.

    Never! Though I do admit the designs have potential, in their current form they're just hideous. I hope they get polished soon so they don't look so rushed and unfinished.
    Here's a few pics of a re-modeled Premonition-class made for Bridge Commander:

    Premonition Screenshot 1
    Premonition Screenshot 2
    Premonition Screenshot 3
    Premonition Screenshot 4

    The re-modeled version does look much better than the original from ST:Armada.

    That does look better, but I still hate that purple tube on the top. And I agree that it doesn't look temporal at all.
    NJ9oXSO.png
    "Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
    -Thomas Marrone
  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    frosttfish wrote: »
    I always thought it looked like a dodgey sovereign class, with a purple tube on its back.

    I believe the official information that was provided (as limited as it was) indicated that the USS Premonition was a Sovereign Class that had been emergency refit with temporal gear.

    Personally I always thought that the Imperial Class was suppose to be a nod towards the Premonition, which I liked, and designed to look as close to her as possible ^ ^
    "Why all the sales"?

    And a merry freaking Christmas to you too, Ebenezer.
    -jonsills, 'Cryptic Why the sales..instead of Fixing XP leveling and this game?'
  • edited February 2014
    This content has been removed.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Two things.

    1) It's from another game, so the chances of it happening are basically zero.

    2) It's uglier than the Jupiter and the Typhoon combined.

    Nothing is uglier than the Jupiter! :P
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • wolfpack12cwolfpack12c Member Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Issues with this are that
    1: startrek already has a temp cruiser it was called the universe class i.e. enterprise-j(31cnt) and it was bigger then a damn moon
    2: I don't think it will happen for a while due to them already having done a temp lockbox
    3: the ship you put up is a black re skinned sov class so just no

    But I like where your head is at
    -"There is no such thing as an I win button!" "Um, Sir. Whats this button that says (I win) for then?"
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Issues with this are that
    1: startrek already has a temp cruiser it was called the universe class i.e. enterprise-j(31cnt) and it was bigger then a damn moon

    unless there was a mention in that episode that the Ent-J could travel through time, then No, it is not a temporal Vessel. that would be like calling the Gal-X a temporal Dreadnought becasue it was designed in an alternate future and was pressed into service in the prime time.

    Edit: also, the Ent-J is 2 miles long.... hardly bigger than a moon.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Issues with this are that
    1: startrek already has a temp cruiser it was called the universe class i.e. enterprise-j(31cnt) and it was bigger then a damn moon
    2: I don't think it will happen for a while due to them already having done a temp lockbox
    3: the ship you put up is a black re skinned sov class so just no

    But I like where your head is at

    There was never any mention of the J being any kind of temporal ship.

    I always kinda like the Premonition but I do agree it's kinda like a compacted Sovereign with purplish mission pod on the back.
    Can't have a honest conversation because of a white knight with power
  • kiloacekiloace Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    I believe the official information that was provided (as limited as it was) indicated that the USS Premonition was a Sovereign Class that had been emergency refit with temporal gear.

    Personally I always thought that the Imperial Class was suppose to be a nod towards the Premonition, which I liked, and designed to look as close to her as possible ^ ^

    Slightly off topic, but if you can, pic please


    I'm curious :D


    In regards to this thread, virtually everything about the ship stays the same, except I'm drawing up my own design for the ship art (waste of time cuz I don't work at cryptic? Maybe, but I get bored easily. There is always the tiniest chance they take it.) that I will try to post in the OP later on. I've also come up with a few other little things I'll add in the original stat suggestion.
  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Oh my God my eyes just melted... What's the opposite of an Eyegasm?

    The concept is sound I suppose but that ship looks like the love child of Hilary Clinton and Elton John.
    "When people ask stupid questions I feel obligated to give sarcastic answers."

    Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • kiloacekiloace Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Was that necro worth it?


    All seriousness though, I think it might be what I needed to finish the ship sketch
  • samt296samt296 Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    kiloace wrote: »
    Was that necro worth it?


    All seriousness though, I think it might be what I needed to finish the ship sketch

    It's not a necro until its archived... But yes, yes it was.

    I never miss an opportunity to craft a blithering insult to some-one/thing.
    "When people ask stupid questions I feel obligated to give sarcastic answers."

    Keltoi Class... fan design. You KNOW you want one In-game!

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It wasn't a necro at all. It's not considered a 'necro' post until the thread hasn't been posted in a month.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Sign In or Register to comment.