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oracion666oracion666 Member Posts: 338 Arc User
Curious to know if its been talked about concerning the ability to change your species. I'm considering picking up the life time sub in the near future, and would like to change over to the liberated borg, but don't want to grind my way up with a new toon.
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It has been talked about. At some point it was "maybe", at another point it was "no".... and I don't know the current stance on it.

    The problem that was mentioned is that this would TRIBBLE up the costumes.... which I can't really see as a problem, with the changed species IMO the costumes had to be deleted and... thats it...
  • historiphilehistoriphile Member Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    oracion666 wrote: »
    I'm considering picking up the life time sub in the near future, and would like to change over to the liberated borg, but don't want to grind my way up with a new toon.

    I have the same reason for being able to re-species a character. I became a lifer more than a year later, but I have a human character I'd love to be able to turn into an assimilated Borg.

    I'd be happy if they would even turn 'Assimilated' into a trait, and then multiple species could be liberated and use the Borg costume options -- I mean, why are those costume items limited to playable characters who are either appearing human, Romulan, or Klingon? What good reason is there that I can't have a playable Benzite with an assimilated appearance, or Ferengi, Gorn, Reman, etc. etc.
    It has been talked about. At some point it was "maybe", at another point it was "no".... and I don't know the current stance on it.

    I think I remember it complained that it didn't seem 'canon', too. Let's examine Star Trek canon, shall we? Space hippies; Abraham Lincoln; Spock's Brain; and didn't Janeway and Paris turn into quadrupedal reptiles, copulate, and then turn back into humans without any apparent harm done?

    But surgical alteration and genetic manipulation are also well within canon, too, and more than adequate as an explanation if anyone is really THAT uptight/literal.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Canon: because Humans flying Breen/Cardassian/Hirogen/etc. ships, with mix and match crew from enemies of the Federation (perhaps with the exception of Remans), and mass murdering fleets of starships single-handed is canon. The "canon" argument has already ceased to be an effective argument at this point.

    I say species and career change tokens should be allowed!!! :D
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Still waiting for it, yes.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It should be noted that "Species Retrain" doesn't make much sense. You can't "retrain" your species, as you're born with it. I would personally call it "Mutation Token" or something or other.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    oracion666 wrote: »
    Curious to know if its been talked about concerning the ability to change your species. I'm considering picking up the life time sub in the near future, and would like to change over to the liberated borg, but don't want to grind my way up with a new toon.

    The issue has come up a bunch of times.

    The problem appears to be that Cryptic make a lot of money out of character slots and respecing species willy nilly could interfere with that.

    However, it strikes me that a major time people want to respec species is when they get an LTS and want an existing characters inventory and history as a liberated Borg.

    So, why not give out with an LTS one token that lets you do just that.

    No cstore version, not more than one per faction.

    But LTSers get to convert one toon per faction to liberated borg.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Well the "canon" argument hardly holds Imo.

    This game is... well... that game should be about our CREWS not one particular person.

    Species Retrain: "Another officer takes over the previous captains post", not "Genetic engineering".
  • dukeskyloaferdukeskyloafer Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    [...] and didn't Janeway and Paris turn into quadrupedal reptiles, copulate, and then turn back into humans without any apparent harm done?

    Technically, I don't think they could be considered quadrupedal, since their back legs were just stumps or flaps. They just drag their bodies around by their front legs. That probably supports your point even more.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    skollulfr wrote: »
    yup, both kirk and troi have been romulan.

    i think cryptic are worried about all the humans turning themselves into cat people.

    Well a human "costume" shouldn't be usable then any more.
    Canon: because Humans flying Breen/Cardassian/Hirogen/etc. ships, with mix and match crew from enemies of the Federation (perhaps with the exception of Remans), and mass murdering fleets of starships single-handed is canon. The "canon" argument has already ceased to be an effective argument at this point.

    I say species and career change tokens should be allowed!!! :D

    I think that is all much more realistic then a t5 connie...^^
  • resoundingenvoyresoundingenvoy Member Posts: 439
    edited February 2014
    There is also the question: If you can swap race at will (or for a fee) within the game, What's the point of selecting one? It becomes as meaningless as changing a uniform's color. If there's no meaning to it, why ask anyone to bother with it at all?

    My two cents? If your that attached to changing races, make a new character. Even if you don't want to point to real money into the system, it's not that difficult to horde enough dilithium to trade for in game coins.
  • lowy1lowy1 Member Posts: 964 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    The issue has come up a bunch of times.

    The problem appears to be that Cryptic make a lot of money out of character slots and respecing species willy nilly could interfere with that.

    However, it strikes me that a major time people want to respec species is when they get an LTS and want an existing characters inventory and history as a liberated Borg.

    So, why not give out with an LTS one token that lets you do just that.

    No cstore version, not more than one per faction.

    But LTSers get to convert one toon per faction to liberated borg.


    Easy, sell a C-Store item that is once per character and like 2500 Zen. People still pay for character slots and Cryptic gets paid for the species transfer.

    They could also do a career retrain, which IMO would be nice. This could be in the C-Store as well. You can't train a Lib Borg Engineer in DEM 3 if you're not an Engineer.
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  • cptstark1cptstark1 Member Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Species Retrain would be awesome, just sayin.
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