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So... Questions of the week!
Question 1:
Are you a fullout pay2winner/grind2winner? Honest answer!
pay2winner = Pay for your respecs, ships, toys
grind2winner = Ample daily time to grind your rep and passives out, the opposite of being a busy daddy i.e. :P
If your answer is yes, you may also call yourself a proud contributor to keeping this game rolling! So there is no shame in being honest here
Question 2:
How do you think being a full grind/pay2winner affect the balance of PvP when it comes to comparing it with a non-pay/grind2winner?
Options: Insignificant, Average, Extreme
Answer 1: I am a fullout pay/grind2winner, and you?
Answer 2: Extreme!
Discuss
Question 1:
Are you a fullout pay2winner/grind2winner? Honest answer!
pay2winner = Pay for your respecs, ships, toys
grind2winner = Ample daily time to grind your rep and passives out, the opposite of being a busy daddy i.e. :P
If your answer is yes, you may also call yourself a proud contributor to keeping this game rolling! So there is no shame in being honest here
Question 2:
How do you think being a full grind/pay2winner affect the balance of PvP when it comes to comparing it with a non-pay/grind2winner?
Options: Insignificant, Average, Extreme
Answer 1: I am a fullout pay/grind2winner, and you?
Answer 2: Extreme!
Discuss
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Only pay for lockboxes and ships I like.
Though right now none of my ships run more than one P2W console including lobi store consoles.
get out of the forums and log a heal. i hear on hilberts thing, that in 3 years you never logged 1 heal. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
A little bit of both. I like to win, and I wouldn't play a game like this if I didn't have time and money that I was willing to spare. That said, I don't buy everything, I don't trade Zen for dil unless it's speculative, and I only grind what I need to be competitive. I do like farming EC and I do a bit of Exchange 'grinding' but I'll do that in any MMO.
As for your second question, I suppose 'Average' would be the best answer. Very skilled players who have been around the STO block are still more than capable of competing at a very high level without having ground themselves into dust. When speaking of two players who are equal in skill and experience, each reputation tier and each piece of fleet/rep gear does add up to a cumulative disadvantage for the 'have-not'.
Full fat "Pay to winner".....
Pretty much this for me.
As for question 2, I think that it has an average impact. I have a fleet mate who does not pay a cent but will grind dil on 10 different alts to change into zen and buy what he wants. He has one of the most devastating Avenger PvP builds I've run across.
I also have a fleet mate who has no problem opening up his wallet to get zen to get what he wants in the game. He is one of the best PvP escort captains we have in our fleet. He is also a pretty decent sci healer as well.
Given those two extremes, I'd say P2W stuff has an average impact on the PvP meta-game.
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Grind.
Extreme.
I played with an alt with no rep, rep gear or fleet gear. While I wasn't useless, I had to keep in mind that I was an awful lot squishier than my mains and was doing considerably less damage (no romm boffs, no damage buff rep passives, no elite fleet shields, no borg 2-piece set). Similarly when fighting another player without elite fleet shields, my DHC wielding ship will generally just rip through their shields in seconds.
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Can we dub this the "grab my package" maneuver?
If your fleetmate is grinding for $$ it's still pay for power, he's paying w/time and trading time for $$ w/someone else. He's paying for power w/time.
Take all new level 50s out fit them w/white gear/doffs/no rep and play 10 matches vs a team fitted the same. Then take all level 50s w/full rep, gear, ships et al and tell me the meta is the same.
Edit: Bought a lifer account which has pay for power benefits. Grinding comes and goes and usually something to do while I wait for queues to pop.
Edit2: Pay for power has extreme impact on balance.
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Make sure to pick up the green one now too, u know. the hirogen trap lol
Theoretically it could make you stronger if you have GDF after
Honest answer, Q'apla!
Always the questionable and sceptical!
As far as rep grinding is concerned I will grind out t2 space passives quick if they are good and eventually t4 passives, but I won't stress over doing t4 fast. As for t5 rep like quantum singularity manipulation I wont grind to t5 for just that, my KDF main still doesn't have it but my Romulan alt has it only because I use the t5 rep gear.
The pay items only mean you get end game items faster. Not a problem for me, as I can get great equipment regardless. The items really don't mean you win instantly. How you play is 90% of a fight.
I dont use p2w lockbox c*** nor rom ships, i want to spend less every time new p2w alien nonsense ships are released. But i still threw money on respecs or fleet modules when i didnt had enough dil or credits.
So i'm a bit of both, but once i'm forced to move to an alien ship (almost all Starfleet and KDF ships are obsolete now) i'll just stop playing the game.
Question 2 :
Extreme, mostly because of equipment. But what i hate the most are those non faction godships flying around with much better stats than bigger real warships (poor escorts).
About your second question: I think P2W has a pretty big impact on PvP if you pull out all the stops, say a full premade using 3 Wells with TIF. However, moderate P2W, while still offering an advantage, is fine. I mean, if we don't pour any cash into the game, we wont have any PvP to play anyway.
Not to mention I'm Allergic to the word Grind. I prefer to play a game where Its fun, and the rewards are easy to reach with out having to feel like its another job. Or where it isn't an obvious grind.
Also it doesn't help that STO NEEDS a good crafting system. And it just doesn't have one where I can go around, get the materials I need, and Craft maybe something PVP worthy.. Or maybe even Craft the parts needed to assemble a ship.
Alright, I'll stop before I get blaimed of trying to thread jack lol.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
But even so it a person is paying why should they have better stuff than a person who makes absolutely NO CONTRIBUTION to the game? No welfare in gaming lol. The staff has to be paid or no content, no game.
Yes I feel for people in games where you can buy more powerful equipment. But then I think, hey I am actually supporting the game and if everyone got the same thing for nothing then I want everything free as well.
In a free market (we all love to scream that America is a free market and corporations are people), in a free market people are going to buy better stuff and people with out money has to make due. It is cruel but it is real life. The more money a person has the better stuff they will buy.
I do not understand this mentality that everything should be free and everyone should have everything and pay nothing for it. This from the same people who scream socialism when people like me want to see affordable health care and better jobs and more money for the poor. Then come to the game screaming because they had to pay for something LMAO.
So yeah hate me. I spend lots of money on different games and if I see something that will make me stronger I will buy it and not loose a night's sleep over it. Why because without people like me, the game closes and no one plays. Unless someone can show me how to put on a major MMO with out paying their staff, buying or renting servers, having internet providers, programmers, janitors, electricity and a building or three to house the company.