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rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
edited February 2014 in PvP Gameplay
So I cant name names of course, nor would I since id get every excuse in the book, that being said...

I know of about 3-4 high end PvPers in the space arenas that always seem to magically appear opposite of the same 3-4 players that literally never move or do anything in a match.

It is plainly obvious. those of you that I am addressing. that you do it to force a 5-4/4-3 advantage in numbers, gimping the opposing team.

Dont try to say youre not either, it is literally always the same couple of people that do it, and stupidly they always use the same couple of alts via name and @handle.

Ive been noticing it for months now, and frankly its pretty lame, just saying. Do you need to outnumber your opponents to win? Or do you just like to farm yourself?

Also, if there is a TOS issue regarding multiple accounts, can anyone clarify it for me, id gladly submit a report on it with all the data ive collected.

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  • brandonflbrandonfl Member Posts: 892
    edited February 2014
    So I cant name names of course, nor would I since id get every excuse in the book, that being said...

    I know of about 3-4 high end PvPers in the space arenas that always seem to magically appear opposite of the same 3-4 players that literally never move or do anything in a match.

    It is plainly obvious. those of you that I am addressing. that you do it to force a 5-4/4-3 advantage in numbers, gimping the opposing team.

    Dont try to say youre not either, it is literally always the same couple of people that do it, and stupidly they always use the same couple of alts via name and @handle.

    Ive been noticing it for months now, and frankly its pretty lame, just saying. Do you need to outnumber your opponents to win? Or do you just like to farm yourself?

    Also, if there is a TOS issue regarding multiple accounts, can anyone clarify it for me, id gladly submit a report on it with all the data ive collected.

    :)

    Dilithium farming would be my guess as to the reason. That's not an excuse, just an observation. I don't approve of alt-farming public queues in any way. They could just as easily set up a private match.

    If they are indeed doing this just to achieve a numerical advantage, then yes, by all means report them. They are exploiting and most likely botting.
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  • mancommancom Member Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Wouldn't it be just as likely that the queue puts them on the same team as the AFK player? Or is this about full groups queueing against some AFK characters?

    I think I don't quite understand the problem (or rather: how one can reliably make this happen, if it is really happening).



    But I have noticed that the shuttle PVP queue tends to put me and "Will the real MT please stand up" on opposing sides. Since that is one of the better shuttle players, I call hax and demand easier matches!
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  • teuteburgteuteburg Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Hi!

    There is no need to say something, just report them.
    This behavior should not be tolerated.

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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    deokkent wrote: »
    Errr... There are easier methods of dilithium farming. So I have to ask, what the eff is the point?

    They can't wait for the double trinket weekend turn in ? lol
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    No, these guys arent doing it to dilithium farm. One of the main culprits is also a chronic abuser of the logout to avoid death feature.
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  • spencerb96spencerb96 Member Posts: 248 Media Corps
    edited February 2014
    Encountered that person earlier in a match that you were in aswell. Such a pain. Managed to get em once atleast :/
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    spencerb96 wrote: »
    Encountered that person earlier in a match that you were in aswell. Such a pain. Managed to get em once atleast :/

    Yep, that guy is one of them. He doesnt always get his alt in, but whenever he does he literally only ever shoots it.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The entire thing is really stange... I honestly and still trying to understand what the point is ?

    Better ways to farm.... If all he does is shoot his alt, Why ?
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The entire thing is really stange... I honestly and still trying to understand what the point is ?

    Better ways to farm.... If all he does is shoot his alt, Why ?

    To win at all costs. Give oneself an advantage via numbers. There are people out there like that I guess. Goes hand in hand with logging out to avoid death, throwing a fit in zone when one loses a match, etc.

    But its not just one person, i know at least three different ones, and possibly a fourth but I dunno if ive seen that one enough to be certain. They do however all behave differently. One of them specifically talks a LOT of trash.
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  • nagrom7nagrom7 Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    That sounds.... quite sad actually

    Maybe you should just give them a hug, sounds like they need it :(
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    To win at all costs. Give oneself an advantage via numbers. There are people out there like that I guess. Goes hand in hand with logging out to avoid death, throwing a fit in zone when one loses a match, etc.

    But its not just one person, i know at least three different ones, and possibly a fourth but I dunno if ive seen that one enough to be certain. They do however all behave differently. One of them specifically talks a LOT of trash.

    You see what I'm saying though...

    Why que... then que your alt... hoping you get on opposite teams. Which you have no control over.... Then when you do get in a match against your alt do nothing but shot at them.

    It doesn't make any sense at all really... 1 from one side does nothing but shot at the other from the other side ? Does his alt just die instant like so he farms his alt for 15 kills as fast as he can... then I understand he trying to farm dilihtium. Which is why I always tell everyone reward for PvP are stupid. Still there are so many easier ways to farm D if you are douchy enough to be dual boxing.... it still boggles my head. :)

    Only thing I can think of ... The Games RP guys are trying to troll PvP... cause they feel slighted by Space Orthodontists or something. I'm sure some how this involves a disco ball, and some bell bottoms.
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  • notrealednanotrealedna Member Posts: 1,028
    edited February 2014
    I was here angry that pretty much all my friends no longer play pvp or log in game.Now I know what I have to do.... play with myself :D
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited February 2014
    Ah ha ha ha this is hilarious.

    Also stop referring to them has high end or good PvPers. Start referring to them as nobodies, non persons etc. Shun them and report them, stand as a community against losers like this.

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  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nagrom7 wrote: »
    That sounds.... quite sad actually

    Maybe you should just give them a hug, sounds like they need it :(

    ^ This. Quite sad indeed.
  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You see what I'm saying though...

    Why que... then que your alt... hoping you get on opposite teams. Which you have no control over.... Then when you do get in a match against your alt do nothing but shot at them.

    It doesn't make any sense at all really... 1 from one side does nothing but shot at the other from the other side ? Does his alt just die instant like so he farms his alt for 15 kills as fast as he can... then I understand he trying to farm dilihtium. Which is why I always tell everyone reward for PvP are stupid. Still there are so many easier ways to farm D if you are douchy enough to be dual boxing.... it still boggles my head. :)

    Only thing I can think of ... The Games RP guys are trying to troll PvP... cause they feel slighted by Space Orthodontists or something. I'm sure some how this involves a disco ball, and some bell bottoms.

    Well if it's FvK you would have a good chance of getting it on the opposite team. Certain times of the day the queues are pretty empty and there seems to be only 1-2 matches going on.

    The only thing I can think of why someone would do this is to get easy kills to win. For some people only winning is fun. Plus, that dude gets free dilithium to buy keys.

    I say report him. He's double dipping and ruining the game for other players.



    I've seen weirder things in MMO PvP. I once had a guy in another MMO wait 12 hrs for me to log on just to spawn kill me as I was logging in because I killed him trying to kill me. That's pretty darn OCD.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    No, these guys arent doing it to dilithium farm. One of the main culprits is also a chronic abuser of the logout to avoid death feature.

    You should fraps it, and report it.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If he shoots himself repeatedly, I'd probably cloak and demorecord
  • onlyslightlybentonlyslightlybent Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bpharma wrote: »
    Ah ha ha ha this is hilarious.

    Also stop referring to them has high end or good PvPers. Start referring to them as nobodies, non persons etc. Shun them and report them, stand as a community against losers like this.

    I support that. They need to be shamed.
  • mindsharpmindsharp Member Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Never seen this happen, but sounds boring. I guess some peeps are easily amused.

    At any rate, you should definitely fraps it and post link so we can all laugh at him. :D
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bpharma wrote: »
    Ah ha ha ha this is hilarious.

    Also stop referring to them has high end or good PvPers. Start referring to them as nobodies, non persons etc. Shun them and report them, stand as a community against losers like this.

    This is the utopian society of the United Federation of Planets. This is not dystopian society of Oceania. Double-speak is outlawed here, there are no non-persons. However, there are sore losers, egotistical maniacs, cowards, bug exploiters, dilithium farmers, and hobos. If someone is warping in an alt on the other team; it's highly likely an entire premade is in on the trick.
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  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited February 2014
    This is the utopian society of the United Federation of Planets. This is not dystopian society of Oceania. Double-speak is outlawed here, there are no non-persons. However, there are sore losers, egotistical maniacs, cowards, bug exploiters, dilithium farmers, and hobos. If someone is warping in an alt on the other team; it's highly likely an entire premade is in on the trick.

    Lol sorry, just something from Red Alert 2 where Yuri declares another general a non-person :P

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  • nandospcnandospc Member Posts: 1,260 Arc User
    edited February 2014
  • voxlagindvoxlagind Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I know that forum rules don't allow is to call out other players by name, but assertions like this need to be supported with much more information than "I'm not naming any names, but...."

    And quite honestly, if nothing more than that can be provided, it serves no purpose other than to give the cynical another claim to make when they think they have been slighted.

    No matter how respected OP is, we as a community need to take these factless allegations and completely disregard them. No good can come from dwelling on this subject.
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    deokkent wrote: »
    Chill, he's asking questions how to handle this situation.

    Pretty much, i dont even know if dual accounts are even allowed. The tos isnt exactly clear on that.
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  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    While I'm not so sure it's against the TOs to have an alt account, I think it is to use one to get around a ban. If it's the person I think you're talking about, I'm fairly certain he was banned after going into a mad rage after being blown up, screaming obscenities and launching into a racism filled tirade. Really rather frightening really. That is unless cryptic doesn't permanently ban racists, which I think would reflect badly on them as a company.

    It certainly sounds like the same classless cretin.
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  • angiewilliamsangiewilliams Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    orondis wrote: »
    While I'm not so sure it's against the TOs to have an alt account, I think it is to use one to get around a ban. If it's the person I think you're talking about, I'm fairly certain he was banned after going into a mad rage after being blown up, screaming obscenities and launching into a racism filled tirade. Really rather frightening really. That is unless cryptic doesn't permanently ban racists, which I think would reflect badly on them as a company.

    It certainly sounds like the same classless cretin.
  • twamtwam Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Pwe csm's can't permaban a thing they tried but failed hard to do so.

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    I think you'll find that the ToS actually does provide for permabans - if you got a temporary ban that mainly suggests you hadn't crossed that line.

    As to the second part, I hope you're using dynamic (ISP-side) IP and MAC adressess if making claims like that - it's child's play for any half decent support operator to just look those up and close all accounts linked to them.

    You also seem to take a certain joy or pride in having been banned. I don't really get that - but that's just me.
  • angiewilliamsangiewilliams Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
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