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Cryptic, is there ANY future for CRAFTING ?
preiko
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Crafting
As Star Trek Online started 4 Years ago, IT was there.
never perfect, of course
It gave us all a opportunity to gain Equipment,
= just for Data Samples and specific Item, later that changed in to "Schematics"
Many of us saw the opportunities, like "AEGIS SET"
And we could not wait, what would be the next big crafting item ?
There was the "Delta Flyer" of course, i have to mention that
BUT since then you just added the
--> "Common Unreplicateable Materials" = 10 Dilithium
--> "Uncommen Unreplicateable Materials" = 1000 Dilithium
And added the "Dilithium Store"
THIS killed Crafting once and for all
The Dilithium Store is a great thing, don?t get me wrong,
but why should any one spend hours of grinding Data Samples
even gathering and spending Dilithium for this "un-replicateable Materials"
When have to you could just buy the same stuff from the Dilithium Store.
But that is the Past
We need another Crafting Window
other Items
Ideas are welcome
here are my Ideas
Reduce the cost of "Uncommen Unreplicateable Materials" at least by half
or place them somewhere so we can search it, or a daily crafting mission
to get some
- Give us Mark XII Purple Stuff to craft
- add Warpcores / Singularity Cores
- Add in craftable "Ship Devices" and "Ground Devices"
(take the one that are already exist)
- obviously PLEASE upgrade the AEGIS set to Mk XII standard (maybe a little bit extra ^_^ )
- Craftable Exocomp duty Officer // craftable Android Bridge Off. & Duty Off.
- "Craftable Only" Weapon Modifier
==> like the [RCH] = recharge one from the Mission " Forging Bonds"
- Idea - let us use the Crafting system to Change modifiers on items
- Let us use the Crafting system to Design our own Deflector / Armor
No offense! But most of your Set deflectors are a mess
- Maybe give us a craftable Ship, i think something like the Tuffly Freigther
with a crafting Console on it, [You could use some ships that are already exist and make them playable]
idea .. interior map ... let us crafting a ship map for our ships
you know when you enter the turbo lift a new window pops up
that says Cargo bay / crafting area
Okay, the Community shall speak,
what do you think about crafting ?
do you want a revamp ?
Or is it TRIBBLE from the past we no longer need because we have the Reputation system.
As Star Trek Online started 4 Years ago, IT was there.
never perfect, of course
It gave us all a opportunity to gain Equipment,
= just for Data Samples and specific Item, later that changed in to "Schematics"
Many of us saw the opportunities, like "AEGIS SET"
And we could not wait, what would be the next big crafting item ?
There was the "Delta Flyer" of course, i have to mention that
BUT since then you just added the
--> "Common Unreplicateable Materials" = 10 Dilithium
--> "Uncommen Unreplicateable Materials" = 1000 Dilithium
And added the "Dilithium Store"
THIS killed Crafting once and for all
The Dilithium Store is a great thing, don?t get me wrong,
but why should any one spend hours of grinding Data Samples
even gathering and spending Dilithium for this "un-replicateable Materials"
When have to you could just buy the same stuff from the Dilithium Store.
But that is the Past
We need another Crafting Window
other Items
Ideas are welcome
here are my Ideas
Reduce the cost of "Uncommen Unreplicateable Materials" at least by half
or place them somewhere so we can search it, or a daily crafting mission
to get some
- Give us Mark XII Purple Stuff to craft
- add Warpcores / Singularity Cores
- Add in craftable "Ship Devices" and "Ground Devices"
(take the one that are already exist)
- obviously PLEASE upgrade the AEGIS set to Mk XII standard (maybe a little bit extra ^_^ )
- Craftable Exocomp duty Officer // craftable Android Bridge Off. & Duty Off.
- "Craftable Only" Weapon Modifier
==> like the [RCH] = recharge one from the Mission " Forging Bonds"
- Idea - let us use the Crafting system to Change modifiers on items
- Let us use the Crafting system to Design our own Deflector / Armor
No offense! But most of your Set deflectors are a mess
- Maybe give us a craftable Ship, i think something like the Tuffly Freigther
with a crafting Console on it, [You could use some ships that are already exist and make them playable]
idea .. interior map ... let us crafting a ship map for our ships
you know when you enter the turbo lift a new window pops up
that says Cargo bay / crafting area
Okay, the Community shall speak,
what do you think about crafting ?
do you want a revamp ?
Or is it TRIBBLE from the past we no longer need because we have the Reputation system.
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(UFP) Ragnar
we know them from the Missions:
"Enterprise B" [Temporal Ambassador]
"Obelisk" [Sphere of Influence]
"Dyson" [Step between Stars]
I haven't bothered do any crafting myself, cause I once heard the rumor of a revamp and I'm still waiting.
You beat me to it. It's being revamped. The OP needs to cool down and wait for it.
You still might be able to find rechargable shield batteries on the exchange. I still have a few that I'm keeping for any future characters.
receipts should be top notch. XII stuff with customization is a "must have". no discussion about it. every modern games allow to customize every possible attribute.
also cost table is outrageous. for example aegis set meant to be "starter friendly" set and for leveling. yet that high dilithium cost make the price of several millions, which for a player that started to play a week ago is just unaffordable. by the time he can buy aegis most probably he already hit level 50 and farmed enough marks and reputation to buy any X set from rep system.
then the ways to acquire materials are totally unproductive. mission replay means up to half an hour for dozen samples. doffing system 5-10 a day per possible assignment and also about an hour to fly around the universe to seek them. both completely unacceptable in therms of time/reward.
the best way to do it is like its done in guildwars2. you get up to 10 materials per node, there are dozens nodes per map. moreover you actually do not need to farm the nodes at all, you can just disassemble any drops you get back in to materials it consist of. disassembling isn't for free, but those special tools are really very cheap to get. in star trek we have the replicator, just make another mode for it, instead of returning EC you pay small amount and get the samples.
in my opinion it should work that way:
ordinary samples and traces should be available from from replicator disassembling.
(there are several top 10 games where its standard since several years)
more nodes per map, better earnings per node, better results per time investment.
(c'mon, in wow i get by back pack full in an hour or so)
doff system gets own window/tab special for material gathering where you can specify exactly what do you want to get.
(kotor as the best known example)
consumable stuff exclusively build via crafting, aka "buff food", with additional effects like plasma burn strength, not limited to the ground devices only like now. unlimited use stuff like everlasting hypos/batteries/components and team buffing as most expensive one.
(pretty much standard for every game. really nothing annoys more then hypos/batteries/components running out int the middle of a mission. the heck make them cost per use just as the already existing one would cost, but make them everlasting.)
craft-able anything up to XII grade.
(also a standard of several games)
any white/green use only normal samples, just different amount of them.
blue use in additional small amount of particle traces.
purple use dilithum or faction marks.
fleet grade stuff use fleet marks/dilithium and can only be build on respective fleet base engineering consoles and bound to character. most important, price should cheaper then premade one, otherwise no one will even touch it.
i would go even further and allow fleet grade stuff be sold to other fleet members for fleet credits/dilithium.
most stuff with exception of fleet grade stuff should be craftable anywhere via crafting window.
(also a standard of several games, great "quality of life" improvement)
main goals are:
full player driven economy.
producing stuff up to purple grade for selling.
everlasting market for buffing consumables.
cheaper and customizable fleet grade assets and everlasting consumables bound on pickup as a reward to leveling the crafting, like profession bonus.
btw. it would also be a big help to evolve market system to allow specific flag driven browsing. something like when you go to category "ship weapons" you get additional dropdown where you can select a flag "single beam" and "disruptor" and "ctrh" and get only those listed after hitting the "search". this will also greatly reduce database load since unwanted queries will be reduced to nearly zero.
same for bridge officer where you can select race, traits and wanted skills. really, nothing annoys more then spending hours to find a BO3 boff.
Too many materials, they all look the same, then on top of that you need schematics, still not sure where those are from, or how I turn particle traces and artifacts into hypos and guns instead of using construction materials, or why I go to a gigantic archive to do it instead of some kind of fabrication-oriented replimat, and then once I've done it for 6 months and become a master, I could've just got better stuff from... well, anywhere else.
Also, give aegis a warp core. A nice speed boosting one. Moar evasion.
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Keep in mind that when Cryptic 'revamped' crafting for Champions Online they removed it entirely.
Yes, seriously. Poof! All gone. Nothing to craft at all anymore period.
So I wouldn't be wishing too hard for that revamp.
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It would need a entire overhaul to do though, and the focus of the game would probably shift from reputation grinds and lockboxes to crafted equipment, and there would probably be a significant dilithium and lobi investment involved so maybe I actually don't want it revamped this way
Personally, I'd love to see it where you can craft white quality items for a nominal cost of common materials. Then, upgrade that white item with a Green Modifier ([ACC], [DMG], etc.) with uncommon materials and a small amount of dilithium.
Then, you can upgrade that green item with a trade-off Blue Modifier(increase firing arc by 15 degrees, but deals less damage - or more damage for less arc, etc.) with rare materials and a moderate amount of dilithium. This would greatly allow players to customize their equipment and bring in new tactical options without heavily imbalancing things with more power creep.
Lastly, you could upgrade a blue item with a proc-based Purple Modifier(chance for a shield to 'harden'/increase resistances on hit, the [BORG] proc for weapons, etc.) by using a lot of dilithium and exotic resources(BNPs, Cyber Implants, Fleet Buff Provisions, special alien-themed lockbox modules, etc.).
Unfortunately, It probably wouldn't be compatible with existing items and something like that would undoubtedly be a nightmare for the database.
-- and no, craftable doffs would not make them over-powered. Limitations can easily be placed on what can be crafted.
They changed it?
I used Aegis set from lvl 10 to 50 when i leveled my rommie.
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