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shireknightshireknight Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited February 2014 in The Academy
I know The Exchange isn't cheating as such otherwise it wouldn't be in the game however I've just been looking at recruiting a new Bridge Officer and I notice that on the exchange you can buy Very Rare Officers for ridiculously low prices whereas at Space Dock you need to use something called a veteran bridge officer reassignment form which I assume you have to earn through hard graft or you just have to see if you find a good officer by luck while playing yes?

Would you advise a newbie to buy these officers at the exchange or is it more legitimate to get them via the proper game mechanic?
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  • kaiserkactokaiserkacto Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You can also get purple quality brigde officers by doing some doffs assignments. I guess most of those bridge officers on the exchage were acquired that way, and if they don't have the right traits or abilities, they are sold for a ridiculously low prices.

    Especial boffs, however, like the C-Store boffs, or the boffs with rare/useful abilities/traits can be very expensive
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I know The Exchange isn't cheating as such otherwise it wouldn't be in the game however I've just been looking at recruiting a new Bridge Officer and I notice that on the exchange you can buy Very Rare Officers for ridiculously low prices whereas at Space Dock you need to use something called a veteran bridge officer reassignment form which I assume you have to earn through hard graft or you just have to see if you find a good officer by luck while playing yes?
    ....

    Actually, the Veteran BO form was given out during the last STO Currency realignment to players who got badly 'shafted' in the exchange process.. This can be used to purchase a special BO with extra-ordinary Veterans attributes, and is not comparable to your normal Purple BO...

    These Forms are not available through normal game play, though sometimes you can find them posted for astronomical prices on the Exchange...
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The Veteran Reward Requisitions are extremely rare. Even beyond what one one would consider ultra-rare. The Veteran Requisition Forms were only earned by 0.007% of the player population at start of Season 5.
  • shireknightshireknight Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    The Veteran Reward Requisitions are extremely rare. Even beyond what one one would consider ultra-rare. The Veteran Requisition Forms were only earned by 0.007% of the player population at start of Season 5.
    Actually, the Veteran BO form was given out during the last STO Currency realignment to players who got badly 'shafted' in the exchange process.. This can be used to purchase a special BO with extra-ordinary Veterans attributes, and is not comparable to your normal Purple BO...

    These Forms are not available through normal game play, though sometimes you can find them posted for astronomical prices on the Exchange...

    Right so forget recruiting Very Rare officers via Starfleet recruitment officers it's simply not going to happen -got it :)

    You can also get purple quality brigde officers by doing some doffs assignments. I guess most of those bridge officers on the exchage were acquired that way, and if they don't have the right traits or abilities, they are sold for a ridiculously low prices.

    Especial boffs, however, like the C-Store boffs, or the boffs with rare/useful abilities/traits can be very expensive

    Cool, I shall not use the exchange for officers then and try my luck with the doffs assignments, missions and general gameplay instead then :)


    One other question -I don't suppose Bridge Officers and Duty Officers slowly turn into Very Rare Officers as they get more skilled do they?
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  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    One other question -I don't suppose Bridge Officers and Duty Officers slowly turn into Very Rare Officers as they get more skilled do they?


    No they don't.

    But you can sort of do it. You can't change their traits which is one of the thing that make's then VR. But you can train them in certain rare abilities which only show up in VR Boffs. For example, if you acquire a VR BOFF that has a desired ability, but the race, gender,etc. isn't to your liking. You can use the VR boff to train one of your commissioned BOFFs with that skill. That "uses" up the VR BOFF.
  • alexmakepeacealexmakepeace Member Posts: 10,633 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If you want to improve the quality of your boffs, what you do is:

    1. Save the appearance of each of your current boffs and write down their names.
    2. Buy some very rare boffs of the same species and gender as your original officers
    3. Discharge the original officers
    4. Paste the names and appearances onto your new very rare boffs.
    5. Go to the boff trainer on ESD (he's next to the door to sickbay) and train your boffs in the skills that you want.

    Make sure not to discharge an officer until you have their replacement. Some boffs cost more than others, depending on their traits, species, and gender (female boffs are almost always more expensive than male boffs with the same traits and species).
  • acylionacylion Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Right so forget recruiting Very Rare officers via Starfleet it's simply not going to happen -got it :)

    No. You're in fact 100% GUARANTEED to get some Very Rare (purple quality) bridge officers via Starfleet simply from levelling up.

    But you're not going to get the VETERAN type officers. That's different.
    Cool, I shall not use the exchange for officers then and try my luck with the doffs assignments, missions and general gameplay instead then :)

    Correct. You don't need to buy the Very Rare/Purples, if you don't want to. In the long run, you're going to have more bridge officers of that quality than you can personally use.

    That's why there are so many, sold so cheap, on the Exchange.

    But for the same reason, you shouldn't feel bad about buying one if you want it. The main reason people purchase bridge officers is to get a specific type they want - let's say, you really want a Vulcan Male Tactical Officer.

    You might be lucky, and you might get one as a random reward. Or you might not.

    Or you want an officer that comes with a power that's only available on random Bridge Officers - it isn't trainable by a player character or purchasable from a vendor. Like Auxiliary to Structural Integrity Field III or Dispersal Pattern Beta III or something. So that's a reason to buy an officer.

    But if you don't care, then you can just try your luck.
    One other question -I don't suppose Bridge Officers and Duty Officers slowly turn into Very Rare Officers as they get more skilled do they?

    They won't upgrade. The quality colour of a Bridge Officer is mainly determined by the quality of traits - passive skills - that they have. I mean things like "Covert", "Efficient", "Leadership", "Creative", and so on. Your player character has traits as well, if you recall.

    The thing is, traits are a relatively minor consideration. There are very few Bridge Officers available to Federation and KDF characters that have space traits - most of the traits are for ground combat.

    This means that there can be effectively ZERO difference between an uncommon green Bridge Officer and a very rare purple Bridge Officer, if you're only using them to occupy a space slot on your starship. It's likely the very rare purple Bridge Officer only qualifies as purple due to superior GROUND traits - and if you're never beaming down with them on your away team, there's no difference.

    (As a side note, this is why Romulan bridge officers are quite expensive on the exchange, on the Romulan side of the game. Romulans, and Remans, have good space traits. People generally care more about space combat than anything else.)

    There is one other consideration. Purple and blue (very rare and rare) bridge officers generally come with active powers that can't be acquired by other means. I mentioned this earlier. But that's only a factor if you care about those powers in the first place, and in practical terms some are more desirable than others. And of course you can also use the purple or blue officer to train a green officer, transferring the power over - there's no reason to keep the officer around just for that.
  • shireknightshireknight Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Oh wow some really detailed, useful advice guys thank you :)

    and as for this :-
    If you want to improve the quality of your boffs, what you do is:

    1. Save the appearance of each of your current boffs and write down their names.
    2. Buy some very rare boffs of the same species and gender as your original officers
    3. Discharge the original officers
    4. Paste the names and appearances onto your new very rare boffs.
    5. Go to the boff trainer on ESD (he's next to the door to sickbay) and train your boffs in the skills that you want.

    Make sure not to discharge an officer until you have their replacement. Some boffs cost more than others, depending on their traits, species, and gender (female boffs are almost always more expensive than male boffs with the same traits and species).

    this is a genius idea lol :D
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  • freenos85freenos85 Member Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    The Veteran Reward Requisitions are extremely rare. Even beyond what one one would consider ultra-rare. The Veteran Requisition Forms were only earned by 0.007% of the player population at start of Season 5.

    Really? Now i really wonder how i got mine ... was this percentage actually posted somewhere, cause i don't believe it's that low. I heard it was 1% of the playerbase.
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freenos85 wrote: »
    Really? Now i really wonder how i got mine ... was this percentage actually posted somewhere, cause i don't believe it's that low. I heard it was 1% of the playerbase.

    Funny you should ask that. I had to do a lot of hunting to find that post. But here it is. T'was a message from the then Emergency Holographic Executive Producer Stephen Deangelo.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3882094&postcount=1

    And now I reread it in detail. You are almost correct. It was 0.8% of the players got the Veteran BOFF. I was misremembering things myself. I had 5 characters in the 0.007% category.
  • angelphoenix12angelphoenix12 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    Funny you should ask that. I had to do a lot of hunting to find that post. But here it is. T'was a message from the then Emergency Holographic Executive Producer Stephen Deangelo.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3882094&postcount=1

    And now I reread it in detail. You are almost correct. It was 0.8% of the players got the Veteran BOFF. I was misremembering things myself. I had 5 characters in the 0.007% category.

    whatever the case is, it is time to either delete the listing for the veteran boffs, or have them become available to everyone else. to those who say this is for those who have been screwed by the conversion it is time to let that excuse go as well you have had this boff exclusively for 2 years.
  • freenos85freenos85 Member Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    whatever the case is, it is time to either delete the listing for the veteran boffs, or have them become available to everyone else. to those who say this is for those who have been screwed by the conversion it is time to let that excuse go as well you have had this boff exclusively for 2 years.

    Start a romulan. You'll get a veteran for free. This veteran is a little weaker, but you alsways get him.
  • angelphoenix12angelphoenix12 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freenos85 wrote: »
    Start a romulan. You'll get a veteran for free. This veteran is a little weaker, but you alsways get him.

    I got a romulan character. I was talking about the fed and kligon versions.
  • norobladnoroblad Member Posts: 2,624 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    You can also get purple quality brigde officers by doing some doffs assignments. I guess most of those bridge officers on the exchage were acquired that way, and if they don't have the right traits or abilities, they are sold for a ridiculously low prices.

    Especial boffs, however, like the C-Store boffs, or the boffs with rare/useful abilities/traits can be very expensive

    I advise a newbie to understand the system before buying. There are a TON of useless purple quality officers out there, because the mechanic is easy (do a mission, get an officer, at least 2 a week if you wanted to do them all) and the quality is also easy (any purple DO will get you a 33/66 chance at a purple/blue, and if they have the right stats, you can get nearly a 50/50 chance). Until you know what to buy, save your money and use the ones given to you as you level up.
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I post half a dozen purple boffs a week on the exchange. "Rare" is a relative term here. lol
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,459 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    freenos85 wrote: »
    Start a romulan. You'll get a veteran for free. This veteran is a little weaker, but you alsways get him.
    Is Tovan Khev a Veteran? I know he's Purple, but now on the Fed and Klink tutorials you start with a Purple officer as well (Feds get Elisa Flores, Klinks get, IIRC, K'gan - unless it's that other guy whose name escapes me, but I'm pretty sure K'gan is the Purple guy).
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  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    Is Tovan Khev a Veteran? I know he's Purple, but now on the Fed and Klink tutorials you start with a Purple officer as well (Feds get Elisa Flores, Klinks get, IIRC, K'gan - unless it's that other guy whose name escapes me, but I'm pretty sure K'gan is the Purple guy).

    Not Khev, the engineer later on (Spoilers for those who STILL haven't played it: D'vex). He gets the basic versions of the Veteran traits.
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    If you do the right DOff missions, you will never lack for rare and very rare BOs. Feel free to get the ones you need or want off the exchange with no guilt attached.
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  • dathranselanedathranselane Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It's worth noting that Human Bridge Officers get the same space trait, Leadership, at exactly the same value no matter their rarity. So you don't need to buy Very Rare Human BO's for bridge crew if you don't want to; Leadership is the same regardless of rarity.

    Generally, Fed side, alien species are better for ground traits, humans are better for space officers (because of the stacking Leadership benefit). You'll have to experiment to determine which traits work best with your Away Team setup, but Creativity and the various resistance traits are never bad choices.
  • astimingpyleastimingpyle Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Would you advise a newbie to buy these officers at the exchange or is it more legitimate to get them via the proper game mechanic?

    There is no such thing as "more legitimate" between buying Bridge Officers from the Exchange, the C-Store, or any other in game system. If it's a system in the game, use it.

    The Requisition Officer, Elsa Mora, at Earth Spacedock offer a fairly narrow band of Bridge Officers, meaning you may not find the perfect Bridge Officer with all the space and ground traits you might be looking for. So, there is nothing wrong with turning to the Exchange to see if you can find what you are looking for in a Bridge Officer.

    At higher ranks, some bridge officers can be acquired via a Fleet's Embassy. There are also C-Store ones, and some are offered via missions I believe. Which method you choose to acquire them is irrelevant, as long as you are getting the traits and skills you are looking for.

    Two of my Bridge Officers are from the Embassy, the rest are from the Exchange. I've had to get some trained up in the abilities I wanted, which will likely be the case for nearly everyone.
  • bejaymacbejaymac Member Posts: 448 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    1. Save the appearance of each of your current boffs and write down their names.

    Be careful with this one, any non generic outfit parts and the save will be corrupt, even something as simple as the Yesterday's Enterprise belt and chest gear will break the save.
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