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Jam Sensors/Scramble Sensors - A slight fix is needed
cmdrskyfaller
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Dear Devs,
There is a problem with both of these sci powers.
Jam sensors = single target, 'cannot target me' effect unless X damage is inflicted on target. Target can still target your team-mates. Duration of jam and amount of damage needed to snap the target out of the jam are affected by stats.
Scramble Sensors = AOE effect that causes any enemy vessel caught by it to target their allies. Duration of effect and damage ship takes to snap out of the scramble are affected by ship stats.
The problem these abilities have are:
Jam Sensors: The damage threshold to snap it out of the jam can come from any source. If you Jam a target and your team-mates shoot at it, the damage from your team removes the jam effect that is preventing the target from shooting YOU.
Both Jam and Scramble Sensors: The enemy can still target your torpedoes/mines/fighters/drones. Also, enemy ships using Torpedo Spread and Fire at Will abilities can still hit you.
These problems are particularly problematic and makes the Jam and Scramble almost useless since most NPC ships and players in PVP use Fire at Will / Torp Spread all the time PLUS they can still target your heavy torpedoes, mines and fighters/drones even while they have not reached the damage threshold to release them from the jam/scramble effect.
Please fix it so that:
1- Destructible Torpedoes, Mines and Fighters/Drones can not be targeted by anyone under Jam or Scramble effect.
2- Fire at Will / Torpedo Spread abilities are not able to target the ship that fired the Jam/Scramble attack NOR their Destructible Torpedoes, Mines and Fighters/Drones.
Once that is done, these two abilities will be functional.
There is a problem with both of these sci powers.
Jam sensors = single target, 'cannot target me' effect unless X damage is inflicted on target. Target can still target your team-mates. Duration of jam and amount of damage needed to snap the target out of the jam are affected by stats.
Scramble Sensors = AOE effect that causes any enemy vessel caught by it to target their allies. Duration of effect and damage ship takes to snap out of the scramble are affected by ship stats.
The problem these abilities have are:
Jam Sensors: The damage threshold to snap it out of the jam can come from any source. If you Jam a target and your team-mates shoot at it, the damage from your team removes the jam effect that is preventing the target from shooting YOU.
Both Jam and Scramble Sensors: The enemy can still target your torpedoes/mines/fighters/drones. Also, enemy ships using Torpedo Spread and Fire at Will abilities can still hit you.
These problems are particularly problematic and makes the Jam and Scramble almost useless since most NPC ships and players in PVP use Fire at Will / Torp Spread all the time PLUS they can still target your heavy torpedoes, mines and fighters/drones even while they have not reached the damage threshold to release them from the jam/scramble effect.
Please fix it so that:
1- Destructible Torpedoes, Mines and Fighters/Drones can not be targeted by anyone under Jam or Scramble effect.
2- Fire at Will / Torpedo Spread abilities are not able to target the ship that fired the Jam/Scramble attack NOR their Destructible Torpedoes, Mines and Fighters/Drones.
Once that is done, these two abilities will be functional.
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A well timed scramble sensors on a high DPS fawboat is both extremely lulzy and lethal (to your opponents team)
I reckon youre not placing it at the right times.
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Its not about that. Its about the ship under such effect still being able to hit you and your destructible weapons (torps/mines/fighters) when it LITERALLY should be detecting them as friendly and not be able to target them. Scramble should flip everything blue to red and everything once red to blue. This includes hvy torps/fighters/mines.
FAW boat firing within his circle of friends will still be hitting you and your above mentioned torps/mines/fighters. That is the problem.
That is obvious. However, if you hit a target with jam or scramble sensors and seconds later it uses FAW/Spread to fire on your team-mates you and your high yield torps/mines/fighters will still get hit by that FAW/Spread.
Scramble Sensors should prevent the ability to target ANY target outside of themselves.
Those would be the changes I would make. As is, the skills are fine. Just pay attention.
It means "cant figure out who the heck is friend or foe"
FIRE EVERYTHING!
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
That would be extremely, and i mean EXTREMELY overpowered and bad, especially with the doffed version carried on multiple toons.
No way, it would be literally 100 percent uptime and completely negate a player per sci carrying it. That is just way too harsh, forces an automatic 5v4 scenario.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
Nah, there is that 20 second immunity to the effects when it wears off.
The only thing it would change is your confusion level in PvP, because all targets would simply vanish while under the effect.
This allows a single ship to engage an enemy target that is surrounded by supporting ships (Fedball).
It would certainly be "more" powerful, but as I said in my original post, "If I made any change". I'm not asking for it. I am simply stating how I would have made it work from the beginning.
Even better with stupid Fail At Will Boats when you have dropped Aecton Assimilators all around them. Just sit back and laugh while they go BOOM.
However, there is a much bigger problem with Scramble Sensors. It decloaks enemy units. Because it makes enemies technically the same as friendlies you can see them and target them while they are cloaked.