This just further reinforces my opinion that PVPers are having trouble finding enough people to play with, hence why they're endlessly trying to get non-PvP players to be their target practice.
You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
This just further reinforces my opinion that PVPers are having trouble finding enough people to play with, hence why they're endlessly trying to get non-PvP players to be their target practice.
Lol many trekkies have only played sto and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anyway, pvp is dead, like this "game". And no, childs doesnt play this game, mostly nerd old men that likes to collect lock boxes, fill their reputation proyects, and dress their virtual barbies. But of course, they like to talk about maturity.
Lol many trekkies have only played sto and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anyway, pvp is dead, like this "game". And no, childs doesnt play this game, mostly nerd old men that likes to collect lock boxes, fill their reputation proyects, and dress their virtual barbies. But of course, they like to talk about maturity.
It is children no childs, I am old but no nerd, my wife makes sure of that. I don't collect lock boxes, I don't like projects and the only Barbie I like to undress is my wife.
You claim to understand, yet still you make these threads which clearly suggest otherwise.
You say "make your voices heard" to a crowd whose thunderous silence cannot be ignored. We've made our voices heard: we don't care about PvP, that's why we're the "PvE Community" you keep (desperately, based on the frequency of your "This is directed to people who don't PvP, so please don't move it to the PvP area" threads) trying to get over to your side.
We've made our voices heard, they say "You go knock yourself out. We'll be over here doing our chosen thing."
How many times do we need to "make our voices heard" until you get over yourself, get over your personal vendetta to fill the PvP queues with new rookie cannon fodder, and stop ignoring them?!
If you don't give pvp communities a chance, it never will happen.
They burned the chance a LOOONNNGGG time ago for me, when they claimed that they had the right to cry "NERF" and their opinion was the only one that mattered, because the PvE players had "no clue".
That day, when I saw the first of those posts, and they continued to pop up, along with the b*tching I mentioned above, I lost every drop of respect for them.
No... the PvP'ers have to go...
Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
They burned the chance a LOOONNNGGG time ago for me, when they claimed that they had the right to cry "NERF" and their opinion was the only one that mattered, because the PvE players had "no clue".
They burned the chance a LOOONNNGGG time ago for me, when they claimed that they had the right to cry "NERF" and their opinion was the only one that mattered, because the PvE players had "no clue".
You can't stereotype the entire PvP playerbase just because they get bugs fixed. Every person in the game is different in the same way that every person in a given country is different. Judging an entire group on a stereotypical clause is completely unbecoming of a Star Trek fan.
PvErs only bring up issues that negatively affect them. If it weren't for PvP players reporting bugs on the positive side; such things might never get brought to the devs attention.
Should I mention that Cryptic plans to place some heavy emphasis on improving PvP over the course of the next year? The shuttle PvP queue was only the beginning. There's nothing you can do about it, we are here to stay .
A lot of people need to get over themselves, seriously.
Ok you PvP, great so do I.
Ok you PvE, great so do I
None of yall are special snowflakes, so quit crying at the other party saying they are the cause of everything.
The whole game is busted balancewise. No one camp has a shiny clean slate either, quite frankly I find threads like this to not only be complete stupid, but also completely pointless and divides the whole playerbase.
Especially for those of us that do BOTH THINGS EQUALLY AND EQUALLY WELL.
it really grinds my gears when me, a person that fought their TRIBBLE off to get faw fixed via testing and constant posting to the devs for the PvE community, gets thrown into the camp that gets things "nerfed"
No. I work towards getting things fixed. You think I like it when my stuff gets screwed up cause of X Y or Z?
No, so get over yourselves, both PvP and PvE elitists. Seriously, it got old 10 years ago in other games, and its well tiring here as well.
Also, OP, if any of these people wanted to PvP they would. PvP is its own thing and those of us that partake in it, will. It takes a thick skin at times and not everyone has it. A simple word or mock can ruin someones entire experience forever. Dont expect to come to the masses looking for people to shoot at, theyd be in the queues with you already.
Encourage with a channel or avenue and they will come, but dont go bugging them.
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I don't think the PVP has to go, they are here, they are part of the game but they need to understand one thing, we know you are here, we know you want to be here but we also want to be LEFT the hell alone!!! We don't want to PVP, we know what PVP is, PVP games are all around out there and we don't care about it.
Y'know, back when you started doing these, there was some good, some useful things in them and some honest discussion was had. The more and more you make of these threads, the less actually useful it becomes because you simply bug and annoy people by more or less saying the same thing over and over again.
You are basically trying to make yourself as some bastion of PvP. You feel that YOU know the way to do it, but all you do is talk. Until you actually help people out, you really aren't doing anything. It also doesn't help you only reply and even acknowledge only the feedback you want to acknowledge.
You can talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
I understand how you feel, and that is why I am no longer a part of the ground pvp fleets. They can be very hard to deal with. However, that is no reason why you can not participate on your own terms.
I am participating on my own terms. My terms are that I don't PvP.
Given at one point we heard from a Dev that they could remove PVP entirely and it wouldn't effect the overall log ins. I'll repeat what I send then to make my voice heard
Do it. Remove it and reuse the assets elsewhere. Don't waste time and money on something that clearly is wasted.
I enjoy STO PvP on a good day. Not all PvP players are the same. Not all forum posters are the same. But it appears the negative and insulting ones tend to gank the forums in the same manner they complain about PvPers in game. How ironic. Ground PvP can be great fun, and if season 9 is really PvP season as hinted in interviews...
The one and only way to ground pvp is within a fleet where some rules can be applied
Pug ground pvp i dont reccomend there are too many races kits and builds than make most other nothng but a target
ground pvp is more broken than space pvp is and is a universal bad taste in mouth to all but the most elite ground players
its not fun its patethic
Jellico....Engineer ground.....Da'val Romulan space Sci
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Annoyed crowd tired of repeated broken-record threads from the same OP wanting the same thing over and over and over and over asking the same questions over and over and over and over as if somehow he'll one day get a different set of answers than the answers he now gets as reliably as the weather on the Moon.
Interesting vid, a bit strange, but thanx for doing it and attempting to promote pvp :P Although you are completely wrong saying damage means anything on ground :P
To the people against it... well give it a shot, you might actually enjoy yourself
Lol many trekkies have only played sto and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anyway, pvp is dead, like this "game". And no, childs doesnt play this game, mostly nerd old men that likes to collect lock boxes, fill their reputation proyects, and dress their virtual barbies. But of course, they like to talk about maturity.
So, you play this game, what does that make you, internet tough guy?
Your Avatar tells me that you were playing dress up with your virtual Elf Ken.
Interesting vid, a bit strange, but thanx for doing it and attempting to promote pvp :P Although you are completely wrong saying damage means anything on ground :P
To the people against it... well give it a shot, you might actually enjoy yourself
I have tried it. I used to do it all the time waaay back when...when it was the only real way to level a KDF character. It got real old when some of the more 'dedicated' pvp crowd would use exploits to win (not mechanics working as they were supposed to at the time, but things that had unintended consequences). Add in the behavior of people who thought that winning a virtual match somehow elevated them to...something, and gave them the mistaken impression that they were sufficiently awesome to denigrate everyone else.
Aside from that, doing the same maps over and over, got just as repetitive as any PvE.
I have PvPed in other games that did it better, or were dedicated to PvP. PvP here was always a sideshow, and not the main event.
Lol many trekkies have only played sto and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anyway, pvp is dead, like this "game". And no, childs doesnt play this game, mostly nerd old men that likes to collect lock boxes, fill their reputation proyects, and dress their virtual barbies. But of course, they like to talk about maturity.
Pot calling kettle. This is pot calling kettle. We have an update regarding your coloration, over.
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This just further reinforces my opinion that PVPers are having trouble finding enough people to play with, hence why they're endlessly trying to get non-PvP players to be their target practice.
^^^^^ This....^^^^^ This... and ^^^^^^ This.
Haha.
Lol many trekkies have only played sto and doesn't know what they are talking about.
Anyway, pvp is dead, like this "game". And no, childs doesnt play this game, mostly nerd old men that likes to collect lock boxes, fill their reputation proyects, and dress their virtual barbies. But of course, they like to talk about maturity.
It is children no childs, I am old but no nerd, my wife makes sure of that. I don't collect lock boxes, I don't like projects and the only Barbie I like to undress is my wife.
That was meant for the OP.
I'm sorry that you ran into those players. I don't like them either.
That's the ticket!
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You claim to understand, yet still you make these threads which clearly suggest otherwise.
You say "make your voices heard" to a crowd whose thunderous silence cannot be ignored. We've made our voices heard: we don't care about PvP, that's why we're the "PvE Community" you keep (desperately, based on the frequency of your "This is directed to people who don't PvP, so please don't move it to the PvP area" threads) trying to get over to your side.
We've made our voices heard, they say "You go knock yourself out. We'll be over here doing our chosen thing."
How many times do we need to "make our voices heard" until you get over yourself, get over your personal vendetta to fill the PvP queues with new rookie cannon fodder, and stop ignoring them?!
They burned the chance a LOOONNNGGG time ago for me, when they claimed that they had the right to cry "NERF" and their opinion was the only one that mattered, because the PvE players had "no clue".
That day, when I saw the first of those posts, and they continued to pop up, along with the b*tching I mentioned above, I lost every drop of respect for them.
No... the PvP'ers have to go...
And this, with emphasis.
PvErs only bring up issues that negatively affect them. If it weren't for PvP players reporting bugs on the positive side; such things might never get brought to the devs attention.
Should I mention that Cryptic plans to place some heavy emphasis on improving PvP over the course of the next year? The shuttle PvP queue was only the beginning. There's nothing you can do about it, we are here to stay
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Real join date: March 2012 / PvP Veteran since May 2012 (Ground and Space)
Ok you PvP, great so do I.
Ok you PvE, great so do I
None of yall are special snowflakes, so quit crying at the other party saying they are the cause of everything.
The whole game is busted balancewise. No one camp has a shiny clean slate either, quite frankly I find threads like this to not only be complete stupid, but also completely pointless and divides the whole playerbase.
Especially for those of us that do BOTH THINGS EQUALLY AND EQUALLY WELL.
it really grinds my gears when me, a person that fought their TRIBBLE off to get faw fixed via testing and constant posting to the devs for the PvE community, gets thrown into the camp that gets things "nerfed"
No. I work towards getting things fixed. You think I like it when my stuff gets screwed up cause of X Y or Z?
No, so get over yourselves, both PvP and PvE elitists. Seriously, it got old 10 years ago in other games, and its well tiring here as well.
Also, OP, if any of these people wanted to PvP they would. PvP is its own thing and those of us that partake in it, will. It takes a thick skin at times and not everyone has it. A simple word or mock can ruin someones entire experience forever. Dont expect to come to the masses looking for people to shoot at, theyd be in the queues with you already.
Encourage with a channel or avenue and they will come, but dont go bugging them.
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Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
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As I said in this thread:
sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1006041
You are basically trying to make yourself as some bastion of PvP. You feel that YOU know the way to do it, but all you do is talk. Until you actually help people out, you really aren't doing anything. It also doesn't help you only reply and even acknowledge only the feedback you want to acknowledge.
You can talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk.
There, I made my voice heard. Again. Happy?
Do it. Remove it and reuse the assets elsewhere. Don't waste time and money on something that clearly is wasted.
Pug ground pvp i dont reccomend there are too many races kits and builds than make most other nothng but a target
ground pvp is more broken than space pvp is and is a universal bad taste in mouth to all but the most elite ground players
its not fun its patethic
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
More accurately:
Annoyed crowd tired of repeated broken-record threads from the same OP wanting the same thing over and over and over and over asking the same questions over and over and over and over as if somehow he'll one day get a different set of answers than the answers he now gets as reliably as the weather on the Moon.
To the people against it... well give it a shot, you might actually enjoy yourself
Been there, done that, you're wrong. :P
Indeed... Far far faaaaaaar from it. Ground PvP is even worse than Space PvP and that is an accomplishment.
So, you play this game, what does that make you, internet tough guy?
Your Avatar tells me that you were playing dress up with your virtual Elf Ken.
And no, this game isn't dead.
I have tried it. I used to do it all the time waaay back when...when it was the only real way to level a KDF character. It got real old when some of the more 'dedicated' pvp crowd would use exploits to win (not mechanics working as they were supposed to at the time, but things that had unintended consequences). Add in the behavior of people who thought that winning a virtual match somehow elevated them to...something, and gave them the mistaken impression that they were sufficiently awesome to denigrate everyone else.
Aside from that, doing the same maps over and over, got just as repetitive as any PvE.
I have PvPed in other games that did it better, or were dedicated to PvP. PvP here was always a sideshow, and not the main event.
Pot calling kettle. This is pot calling kettle. We have an update regarding your coloration, over.
Who ordered the fire at will? :rolleyes:
Seriously guys, this was a simple enticement to PvE players, not a parade. Stop acting so childish and throwing this thread off topic.