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3 Suits + 50 Lobi = EV Suit Good/Bad?

otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Feature Episodes, Events and PvE Content
Any thoughts on this suits vs. any of the normal suits?


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  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The lobi suits combine the special functions of the other suits, provide some extra crit severity and generally upgrade everything else a bit. For 50 lobi this isn't bad, although bear in mind that it's on an EV suit (not the best armor in the game) but for those few times that you need one it's a good suit.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    50 lobi is nothing. I think it's a decent purchase, since this suit combined the 3 Solanae EV suits. Besides, if you're pursuing all 3 Solanae space parts, then you stand to get all 3 of the EV suits anyways. And again, 50 lobi is nothing. I've been getting these for several toons that I've been working on the Solanae set for.

    Edit to add: I concur with the above poster... no EV suit is a replacement for actual body armor, unless you're going somewhere that requires EV suits even for combat.
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  • mikajensmikajens Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    otakuboyt wrote: »
    Any thoughts on this suits vs. any of the normal suits?


    Thanks
    if you're referring to the normal EV suits, then as long as you don't mind the shield/health regen boost you might have on some armored EV suits, the lobi solanae is a very good EV suit to have
  • ijimithyijimithy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I got both, Sentinel and Paladin (really wanted a shield on the Pally one :( ) and I have to say they are the best EV suits I've ever had. What would have been nice is if they had made the Dyson Armor set look like that and I'd have forgotten anything that cryptic had gotten wrong lol. Functionality wise they rock, the tholians had a hard time killing my tac on nukara with it when i had my cycles up :D
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  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Is there some way you can get different suits? I just keep getting the marksmen version.
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    To get the three different versions you have to pick the automated beams for 1st play through, then swarmers for the 2nd and take the voth on unaided for the 3rd, this is how you get all three.
  • drakethewhitedrakethewhite Member Posts: 1,240 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    To get the three different versions you have to pick the automated beams for 1st play through, then swarmers for the 2nd and take the voth on unaided for the 3rd, this is how you get all three.

    Thank you sir.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Nukara Strikeforce Mk XI rep suit is better (not even Mk XII)

    I'm collecting the episode suits for my BOFFs to use on missions that require them. Play the episode until you get the suit, beam out and restart.
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  • atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    To get the three different versions you have to pick the automated beams for 1st play through, then swarmers for the 2nd and take the voth on unaided for the 3rd, this is how you get all three.

    Thank you I didn't know that. I have two of the suites already. So now I'll take on the voth unadied then.
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  • mcduffie369mcduffie369 Member Posts: 787 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I use the upgraded suit for ground pvp. It has a lot of good resists that can keep you from being killed by roots and science spam.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    50 lobi is nothing. (snip) And again, 50 lobi is nothing.
    While it might seem that 50 Lobi is nothing, it is $10-$15 to get those 50 Lobi. That is hardly nothing.

    I am amazed at how quickly Cryptic has turned the player-base into thinking that 800 Lobi - roughly $200.00 - is a good price for a single-character unlock ship or that $12.50 is a good price to pay for a single-character EV Suit. Cryptic's marketing team is awesome and the job they have done on the STO community is worthy of a Nobel Prize. :)
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  • adverberoadverbero Member Posts: 2,045 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    While it might seem that 50 Lobi is nothing, it is $10-$15 to get those 50 Lobi. That is hardly nothing.

    I am amazed at how quickly Cryptic has turned the player-base into thinking that 800 Lobi - roughly $200.00 - is a good price for a single-character unlock ship or that $12.50 is a good price to pay for a single-character EV Suit. Cryptic's marketing team is awesome and the job they have done on the STO community is worthy of a Nobel Prize. :)

    Hehe, pretty much this, Though i have to admit, You can earn enough Lobi for the suits by trading Dilithium quite happily , the 200 needed for the ship, thats another story
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  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    . Cryptic's marketing team is awesome and the job they have done on the STO community is worthy of a Nobel Prize. :)


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  • daggermoondaggermoon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    To get the three different versions you have to pick the automated beams for 1st play through, then swarmers for the 2nd and take the voth on unaided for the 3rd, this is how you get all three.

    Not necessairly right I think as long as you do different each time for the suit, I did 6 toons 3 time each did different each time and got all 3 suits on each
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I don't think it's a good buy since what we need EVA suits for anyhow? I'm still regretting going for the Nukara Ground set on some characters.

    All I see is Perfect World jingling the keys trying to get us to buy a new toy that we never will play with.
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    50 lobi is WAY too pricey. I won't be wasting them on upgrading EV suits which are rarely ever required for anything. The free suits and even the plentiful purple quality random suits are more than capable in that regard. On top of that you're trading in 3 suits you had to play a fairly long mission to acquire (and play it 3x, PER toon). 50 Lobi is an outrageous ripoff price for such a minor improvement on a facet of gameplay that's lackluster, annoying, and hopefully going to be phased out over time.

    The JH set upgrade is also overpriced times 10.

    Each lockbox only gives you on average 4 or 5 lobi. You're opening at least 10 boxes if not more just to get that much. That's 10 keys wasted for a single char-only suit that has limited use and limited appeal over what you already have in your hands (the suits you're trading in).


    It's just more of the money-grab from Cryptic. Don't do it. Don't give them anything. They don't deserve it.
  • johnstewardjohnsteward Member Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    50 lobi equals 10 opened boxes and thus about 10?.
    The old cstore ev suits where 750 zen i guess. So i prefer the 10? lockbox version since it also includes a chance for ships stuff whatever. There is even a small chance to get 50 lobi from 1-2 boxes.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Interesting. I gave up on regular armours and wear EV suits for everything now. No difference on the ground game save that I have a light if it is dark and a breath mask if it is toxic.
    I kinda want an unlock to customize the look. Say go helmetless when not using the breathing gear.

    As to pricing. Everyone thought $5 for a single character EV suit was insane. But by tying the suits to the lobi cartel the price can go up because it is not $10. Lobi is part of the prize, you get doffs, ships, mining rights, even new traits. So it is not viewed as a straight $ -> Lobi transaction and it is more palatable.

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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    capnkirk4 wrote: »
    There's a sucker born every minute. A fool and his money are soon to be parted... etc. The funniest part is, once you do the math, and figure out what people are dropping on this game, listening to Cryptic, cry poor-mouth, and make an endless litany of excuses as to why things can't be done. That's the criminal shame they bear.

    Actually the math is what I can't do. I do not have the variable of what people are dropping money wise and at what rate. Nor do I have their operating expenses.
    Though if it is as much banditry as suggested I think the numbers would cause a riot.

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    feiqa wrote: »
    Actually the math is what I can't do. I do not have the variable of what people are dropping money wise and at what rate. Nor do I have their operating expenses.
    Though if it is as much banditry as suggested I think the numbers would cause a riot.
    I don't think so. Besides, this lobi upgrade is mainly a cosmetic thing anyways. Seriously. Let's take a step back and look at what they really DO.... the same stuff as their free counterparts, but with better stats. The only thing you don't get free is the costume unlock.

    Sooo.... what to complain about? It's a luxury item for players that can afford it. Just like Lockbox ships, but easier to get. As for the inevitable "Cryptic is greedy".... *points at sig*
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    At avg 130 dil per zen, you get 125 zen (required for key purchase) with 16,250 dil. That nets you mostly just 4 lobi (sometimes 5, but usually just 4 -- let's be honest cryptic keeps it at bare minimum 99.99% of the time).

    Divide that by the lobi you get opening a box, and it's 65,000 dil per EACH lobi. Then multiply by 50 lobi and it would cost you 325000 dil to get a single 50 lobi upgrade.

    Ludicrous. It's not a valid option. Lobi are only there so that people spend real world money instead.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    At avg 130 dil per zen, you get 125 zen (required for key purchase) with 16,250 dil. That nets you mostly just 4 lobi (sometimes 5, but usually just 4 -- let's be honest cryptic keeps it at bare minimum 99.99% of the time).

    Divide that by the lobi you get opening a box, and it's 65,000 dil per EACH lobi. Then multiply by 50 lobi and it would cost you 325000 dil to get a single 50 lobi upgrade.

    Ludicrous. It's not a valid option. Lobi are only there so that people spend real world money instead.

    uh, you multiplied when you said "divide that by each lobi".... its not 65,000 dil per lobi. it's about 4063 dil per lobi. and if you got the minimum on each box, it would be 203125 dil for the upgrade.

    now, suppose you get lucky and get 5 lockboxes with 10 lobi in it, which is the max you can get. that would be 1625 dil per lobi at the 130 dil per zen price. with the 50 lobi upgrade theoretically costing 81250 dil.
  • hip63hip63 Member Posts: 106 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    NVM

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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    tenkari wrote: »
    uh, you multiplied when you said "divide that by each lobi".... its not 65,000 dil per lobi. it's about 4063 dil per lobi. and if you got the minimum on each box, it would be 203125 dil for the upgrade.

    now, suppose you get lucky and get 5 lockboxes with 10 lobi in it, which is the max you can get. that would be 1625 dil per lobi at the 130 dil per zen price. with the 50 lobi upgrade theoretically costing 81250 dil.

    Fair enough, you're right I multiplied instead of dividing, but that's till well over 200k dil per char unlock. Hell, that's more than many fleet projects!

    As for "getting lucky"? Forget it. I've opened HUNDREDS of boxes on tribble in a ROW before. Literally hundreds, like 3-4 stacks of keys in a row, stopping only to delete my inventory so I can open more. In that I got all of 1-2 where I "got lucky" with that many lobi. I actually got more primary ship rewards than I did lobi bonuses.

    They do that so you spend real world money on keys to get more lobi.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I'm sitting on over 900 Lobi. How? boxes? no. the last iteration of FE replays. I made enough Lobi off that to buy one of the 800 Lobi ships... Not that I feel like spending it right now.

    Anyways.... I don't feel the need to get one of the upgraded EV suits at all, so I'm going to ignore this the same way I ignored the stasis pistol.

    I mean really.... I don't get the logic behind the "OMG Cryptic is greedy!" type posts at all. It's a luxury item.... you don't need it at all.... ever. Thus the cost is only relevant if you are willing to pay the cost to buy it.
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    In about 5 different threads you are rallying to Cryptic's defense at a furious pace there. Might want to slow down a little, fanboi.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rodentmaster wrote: »
    In about 5 different threads you are rallying to Cryptic's defense at a furious pace there. Might want to slow down a little, fanboi.

    I assume this is directed at Markhawkman?

    Guess what. I agree with him. The game is made by a for profit company. They are entitled to that profit. And looking at the items. No I do not think running a mission three different ways and paying 50 lobi is too much for such a suit. I think it is cheap compared to other items.

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