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Hirogen Lockbox Discussion.

miirikmiirik Member Posts: 483 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=1085941

Hirogen Lockbox

Grand Prize: Hirogen Hunter Heavy Escort (comes with Enhanced Inertial Damper Field Universal Console, essentially do a swift 180 and receive buffs)

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Alpha Deception Field Universal Console
Mirror ships:
1) Fed: Mirror Universe Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
2) KDF: Mirror Universe Negh'Var Heavy Battlecruiser
3) Rom: Mirror Universe Dehlan Warbird Retrofit
Genetic Resequencer Traits:
Ground Traits:
1) Hunter Instincts (Each time you are Flanked, you receive a short duration Dodge bonus.)
2) Pack Leader (You and nearby teammates have an increased chance to Expose, and increased Expose duration.)
Space Traits:
1) Intimidating Strikes (Your torpedo hits have a chance to render your target Confused for a short duration.)
2) Hot Pursuit (All of your Mines have their pursuit distance doubled.)
Destabilized Tetryon Weapon Pack
25,000 Fleet Credit Bonus Pool
5,000 Fleet Credit Bonus Pool
10,000 CXP Bonus Pool
2,000 CXP Bonus Pool
100 Fleet Mark Bonus Pool
Dilithium Mining Claim Package: VIP Customer
Dilithium Mining Claim Package: Preferred Customer
New: Reputation Mark Bonus Pool (will offer an additional 20% Marks any time you receive a Reputation Mark as a reward. At this time, this includes Omega Marks, Romulan Marks, Nukara Marks and Dyson Sphere Marks. You will always receive a minimum of 1 bonus mark while this pool is active.) Both a 100 and a 500 Reputation Mark Bonus Pool are being added as an addition to this list of bonuses available.

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Apex Heavy Battlecruiser (Comes with Photonic Decoy Swarm Universal Console)

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Item Set:
1) Long-Range Destabilized Tetryon Heavy Cannon
2) Tethered Quantum Mine Launcher
3) Threat Analysis Matrix universal console
2 pc. bonus: Boost to tetryon damage and flow capacitors skill
3 pc. bonus: Tetryon Sniper Blast from Long-Range Destabilized Tetryon Heavy Cannon
Hirogen Enchanced Battle Armor

Note: Hirogen vessels benefit from Sniper Synergy when equipping all 3 pieces of this set, allowing them to cut the energy drain associated with the Sniper Blast in half.

Note: Hirogen vessels possess a passive form of stealth known as Long Range Sensor Masking.

Note: Equipping both of the Hirogen consoles from each ship will increase the bonuses received when initiating the sudden reversal maneuver allowed by the Enhanced Inertial Damper Field. Bonuses to damage output and defense will both double in intensity with both systems installed.

Note: In addition the canonical ?rusted? look, they also have access to 2 additional material options: a ?clean? look and one modeled after the ground armor you?ll read about below.



Discussion! Personally I kind of like the ships, more than the voth ships at the very least. I just can't decide which of the 2 I like more.
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Comments

  • anothervisitoranothervisitor Member Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    My only concern is that some of this stuff might be OP. Especially to shift more keys in the beginning. They usually nerf it a bit later.
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  • miirikmiirik Member Posts: 483 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    anothervisitor wrote: »
    My only concern is that some of this stuff might be OP. Especially to shift more keys in the beginning. They usually nerf it a bit later.

    I couldn't care about ground traits, though that confusion chance to torpedos does seem quite strong.

    I'm also interested in what the other ship materials look like.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Personally i think it is mediocre at best.
    I've seen people comment about the 12km shots and stealthy behavior, but neither is really useful. 12Km range only comes into play in PVP and anyone who has played PVP knows how difficult it is to stay in range while the weapons charges its shot.

    Stealthy behavior is not bonus whatsoever since stealth is already the new standard in pvp.

    Overall the only real reason i see for getting the box is the Hirogen armor (stealth detection) and if you happen to fancy how the hirogen vessels look.

    Best to stay far away from the content of this box as far as i am concerned.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    It's all very PvP centric. That is troubling for two reasons;

    1.) For the most part, they're effectively dumping on the majority of players (i.e. the players who PvE rather than/more than PvP) in order to promote these PvP centric items.

    and;

    2.) It's very likely that these things are going to further unbalance an already badly unbalanced PvP experience.
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    questerius wrote: »
    Personally i think it is mediocre at best.
    I've seen people comment about the 12km shots and stealthy behavior, but neither is really useful. 12Km range only comes into play in PVP and anyone who has played PVP knows how difficult it is to stay in range while the weapons charges its shot..

    not to mention... its ONE WEAPON, its not like it lets the Entire ship fire at that range... you really think one weapon slot firing earlier than the rest of your weapons will be that much of a gamechanger?
  • wrenfuwrenfu Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    other than the innate stealth bonus (which will still be useful against those 20km borg lances if they can't target you), its not all that pvp centric and that stealth bonus is a freebie anyways, not taking up a console slot or anything
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  • sevenatsevenat Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    It's interesting, i don't care for the ship aesthetics, the consoles are interesting, and the traits are interesting. The other lockbox stuff is on par, depends on if you like that or not. I like the boxes, i like the randomness, but that for the most part you get something useful, even if its just something to sell on the auction house.

    The 'sets' are fine too, it makes it interesting, take the set and do less damage output(maybe), but have unique effects that may compensate for that. It's the difference between flat damage and Critical Hit damage(sorta in comparison).

    User preference. and allows for customization, nothing wrong with any of the approaches, just makes you more unique. (i'm assuming the damage or trade offs are worth it, not sure)
  • alfamegaalfamega Member Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    nothing of this can convince me.
    escorts don't need that turn around stuff, they already so nimble that can turn on a dime. cruisers don't need it either due to broadside.
    12 km isn't an advantage, one weapon even with strong attack is nothing.
    mines and traits for them won't make mines more useful. one faw or scatter and they are gone for good.
    signature masking in a game with battle cloaks is just laughable.
    booby-trap console is a gimmick.
    ground set toggle is nearly the same as of shattering harmonics side effect and i bet it will have short duration and a looong cooldown. at least armor looks nice.
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I dunno, I kind of like it. Sweet rewards, and the content indicates that a PVP revamp might be coming. I'll definitely check it out.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,502 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The only thing i may pick up from the exchange is the armor and that is because my klingon tac already uses the Hirogen rifle
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • miirikmiirik Member Posts: 483 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I also just realized they haven't shown the hirogen ship bridge interiors.

    Now I am even more intrigued.
  • kestrelliuskestrellius Member Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I'm glad that tetryons are getting some love.

    So as I understand it, tetryon visuals are being updated. Is this correct? Or is it just one specific group of tetryon weapons available from the lockbox?
  • anothervisitoranothervisitor Member Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kestrellius wrote: »
    I'm glad that tetryons are getting some love.
    They will get a lot of love from my Recluse soon. :D
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    kestrellius wrote: »
    I'm glad that tetryons are getting some love.

    So as I understand it, tetryon visuals are being updated. Is this correct? Or is it just one specific group of tetryon weapons available from the lockbox?
    New Hirogen Tetryon visual effect. :P
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  • kestrelliuskestrellius Member Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yes, but for all tetryon weapons or just special ones?

    Also, not that I'm complaining, mind you; we have enough red/orange weapons as it is, but weren't Hirogen ships weapons canonically red? I think they looked kind of like the Tyken's Rift beam. I also think I've had this conversation before somewhere, but whatever.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well I'll make money off of it, but actually using this stuff? The mirror ships might be okay but another escort and cruiser, meh. The console seems like it'd only be useful in Kerrat. The traits, okay a confusion torp-spread is neat but in practice most enemies just have too many HP and too high a science resistance for that to be more than cute. The weapons might be interesting but since most significant enemies are huge bags of hull a little extra shield drain isn't going to account for much. The stealth-sight on the ground armor might be interesting if enemies were actually cloaking and not using 'cloaking' as an excuse to just spawn right on top of you. So mechanically its all very style yes practical no.

    On the plus side, PVPers are used to being gouged on everything, so we can at least make use of that. :D
  • rcainxrcainx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The MU ships looks OP to me instead lol, for a F2P player
    Token/normal/old MU ships never had such a "creative" loadout
    Klingons never had a cruiser with LTC sci
    Feds only have them as C-store ships or payed ships
    MU Dhelan serves as a very good destroyer as it seems When did they ever have an escort with LTC+LT engi?


    Meanwhile i think the space traits looks like funn
    Does anyone know the exact stats to the Intimidating strikes trait?
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  • bobiwanbobiwan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rcainx wrote: »
    The MU ships looks OP to me instead lol, for a F2P player
    MU Dhelan serves as a very good destroyer as it seems When did they ever have an escort with LTC+LT engi?

    Mogai. Like all other mirror ships, it's a swap of boff and console layout to another ship.
    The Mogai has always had that layout.
  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    tenkari wrote: »
    not to mention... its ONE WEAPON, its not like it lets the Entire ship fire at that range... you really think one weapon slot firing earlier than the rest of your weapons will be that much of a gamechanger?

    Well, its certainly possible. From what I've read about pvp, having 2 or 3 of these ships on a team seems like a huge advantage. If your other teammates are knocking down shields and keeping the enemy from moving around too much, you're in a prime position to do quite a bit of damage if you can coordinate an attack like that. That's what this game needs more than anything, and desperately; tactical thinking. Forcing players to think about how to attack and how to defend, rather than just charging in and trying to do the most damage in 1 go.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Didn't have much luck with this lockbox except 1 trait and 2 hirogen guns. And not sure if it's on purpose, but to me the guns look like they were not textured.
  • grinningsphinxgrinningsphinx Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rcainx wrote: »
    The MU ships looks OP to me instead lol, for a F2P player
    Token/normal/old MU ships never had such a "creative" loadout
    Klingons never had a cruiser with LTC sci
    Feds only have them as C-store ships or payed ships
    MU Dhelan serves as a very good destroyer as it seems When did they ever have an escort with LTC+LT engi?


    Meanwhile i think the space traits looks like funn
    Does anyone know the exact stats to the Intimidating strikes trait?



    10% chance for a 3 second confuse... so far it will work with any torp ive seen sans the breen cluster.
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