Some Ships need Rescaling.

daedalus304 · February 2014

For a while now I've been fine with the Jemmy Dreads being smaller than the Dominion Battleships, I have been fine with that, mostly because I thought of the player ship size and how it would have been a problem.

But now the Scimitars and D'Dex's are out and availible to players, both are larger than the Jemmy dread.

http://www.windforcer.de/sto/comparisontest5.jpg

that scale is something we should try to adhere to in this situation, the Jemmy dread is especially the largest of all availible ships regardless of the chart, the show displays this as well. but now they can be bigger without causing too much havoc.

also the Scimitars are not supposed to be as big as D'ds

gonjaa · February 2014

daedalus304 wrote: »

For a while now I've been fine with the Jemmy Dreads being smaller than the Dominion Battleships, I have been fine with that, mostly because I thought of the player ship size and how it would have been a problem.

But now the Scimitars and D'Dex's are out and availible to players, both are larger than the Jemmy dread.

http://www.windforcer.de/sto/comparisontest5.jpg

that scale is something we should try to adhere to in this situation, the Jemmy dread is especially the largest of all availible ships regardless of the chart, the show displays this as well. but now they can be bigger without causing too much havoc.

also the Scimitars are not supposed to be as big as D'ds

Based on that pic the Scimitar is about as big as the D'd, its just that the d'd is longer and the Scim is wider and taller which is what we see in game

daedalus304 · February 2014

still the jemmy dread has always been too small, and much smaller than the jemmy battlecruiser which in game is classified as a dominion battleship.

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azurianstar · February 2014

Na, nothing wrong with ship scaling. We had posts like this in the past and we had people from the ship team tell us they use accurate measurements provided by CBS.

daedalus304 · February 2014

azurianstar wrote: »

Na, nothing wrong with ship scaling. We had posts like this in the past and we had people from the ship team tell us they use accurate measurements provided by CBS.

well for one I know that's wrong simply from the NPC Dominion Battleship compared to the Jem'Hadar Dreadnought carrier, the battleship is modeled after the battlecruiser so it's kinda off a little.

Also the scaling is definatley off if the Dreadnought is smaller than a Ddex, before the scimitar and rommie faction, people said the size would be impossible and too big, all I'm saying is these ships need to be a bit bigger, not canon sized but a teeny bit bigger.

reximuz · February 2014

Star Trek was never perfect when it came to scales, the "look" of a shot was always more important. And of all the shows DS9 was the worst when it came to that.

That said, all the capital ships in STO are within canon ranges, and all the shuttles, while larger than scale for visibility, are in scale to each other.

tekehd · February 2014

Based on canon sources the Jemmy Dread should be roughly the same length as the tip to tip wingspan of a Scimitar.

Never parked my scimitar wing tip to nose agaisnt a Jemmy, so uncertain how close it is.

lordlalo · February 2014

daedalus304 wrote: »

For a while now I've been fine with the Jemmy Dreads being smaller than the Dominion Battleships, I have been fine with that, mostly because I thought of the player ship size and how it would have been a problem.

But now the Scimitars and D'Dex's are out and availible to players, both are larger than the Jemmy dread.

http://www.windforcer.de/sto/comparisontest5.jpg

that scale is something we should try to adhere to in this situation, the Jemmy dread is especially the largest of all availible ships regardless of the chart, the show displays this as well. but now they can be bigger without causing too much havoc.

also the Scimitars are not supposed to be as big as D'ds

The vet ships are also supposed to be a little bigger to if I recall correctly. As it stands right now the vet ship's windows are so microscopic you need FXAA and AAx8 to see them.

wufangchu · February 2014

in the television show, Picard could have parked his Galaxy in the open space of a D'Dex between the wings, and in the movies, th3e scimitar was over twice as long as a valdore. Since the valdore is roughly on scale with the Sovereign, that would make the scimitar roughly half again as large as it is now, and the d'dex almost a third. However, In game that would be ridicules. The scimitar in the movie also had 52 cannon on it. In game, that would be ridicules. Theres more than one reason why scaling is done the way it is, and although we may not like it those reasons are usually valid and help to add too the game rather than take away from it.. OH, and the borg cube would be at least square of its current size, and defenses.. wheres the fun in a suicide run you know you cant win???

Here's an interesting size comparison between the scimitar and the enterprise.. please remember that since it is in the distance, the scimitar appears smaller than it would if it was next to the enterprise..
http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100225100561/memoryalpha/en/images/9/94/Scimitar_Predator.jpg

The D'dex is longer than the scimitar by about a third, but they have the same thickness in height. Your Dreadnaught, is about two thirds again as big as a d'dex, or, damned near as big as the game version of earth space dock.

[Deleted User] · February 2014

You get a much better scaling between the Enterprise-E and the Scimitar during the ramming scene:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Battle_in_the_Bassen_Rift?file=USS_Enterprise-E_and_Scimitar_following_collision_extraction.jpg

Some Ships need Rescaling.

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