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Hostile Fleet Takeover?

psptack40psptack40 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Fleet System and Holdings
I created a Fleet a few months back but havent been playing it much for awhile..i get a message from one of my membes about how he "accidentally" has taken over my fleet..which he doesnty have permission or the supoosed ability to do. After investigating , i figure out what hes really tried to do is take the fleet over from me..some how hes also put another guy in a "provisional" fleet commander which he shouldnt have the rank or ability to do either. I wrote to the GMs and was told theres nothing they can do and i cant kick them or demote them...and it also says that i can change anything for 2 weeks...does anone know what in they did to make this happen or how i can fix the problem and kick them both out of my fleet...Please help
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  • sandormen123sandormen123 Member Posts: 862 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    psptack40 wrote: »
    I created a Fleet a few months back but havent been playing it much for awhile..i get a message from one of my membes about how he "accidentally" has taken over my fleet..which he doesnty have permission or the supoosed ability to do. After investigating , i figure out what hes really tried to do is take the fleet over from me..some how hes also put another guy in a "provisional" fleet commander which he shouldnt have the rank or ability to do either. I wrote to the GMs and was told theres nothing they can do and i cant kick them or demote them...and it also says that i can change anything for 2 weeks...does anone know what in they did to make this happen or how i can fix the problem and kick them both out of my fleet...Please help

    If you create a fleet, and then just 'abandon' it, do not get surprised that someone will take over.
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  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If you or any leader does not log in for a set period of time, the system is set up that the next active ranking person can claim leadership of the fleet. In other words, everything is working as intended. You weren't active in your fleet so someone else claimed it.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    psptack40 wrote: »
    I created a Fleet a few months back but havent been playing it much for awhile..i get a message from one of my membes about how he "accidentally" has taken over my fleet..which he doesnty have permission or the supoosed ability to do. After investigating , i figure out what hes really tried to do is take the fleet over from me..some how hes also put another guy in a "provisional" fleet commander which he shouldnt have the rank or ability to do either. I wrote to the GMs and was told theres nothing they can do and i cant kick them or demote them...and it also says that i can change anything for 2 weeks...does anone know what in they did to make this happen or how i can fix the problem and kick them both out of my fleet...Please help

    This is your own fault mate. If a fleet leader goes a month with out logging in, then the game then gives the next highest ranking member the option of assuming leadership. This is to stop fleets from dying when the leader stops playing. Also the reason that you can't do anything for two weeks is because this new guy has begun the process of removing you from command, the only way you can undo this is by getting another leader to reinstate you.

    Bottom line, if you wanted to be a fleet leader you should have looked after it better. Based on what you have said, I think this guy is right to get rid of you.
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  • startrekronstartrekron Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    psptack40 wrote: »
    I created a Fleet a few months back but havent been playing it much for awhile..i get a message from one of my membes about how he "accidentally" has taken over my fleet..which he doesnty have permission or the supoosed ability to do. After investigating , i figure out what hes really tried to do is take the fleet over from me..some how hes also put another guy in a "provisional" fleet commander which he shouldnt have the rank or ability to do either. I wrote to the GMs and was told theres nothing they can do and i cant kick them or demote them...and it also says that i can change anything for 2 weeks...does anone know what in they did to make this happen or how i can fix the problem and kick them both out of my fleet...Please help

    Once you take leadership of the fleet you must log on with any one of your characters of the highest rank once every 30 days or the first person of the next highest rank to log in is given control of the fleet. The fleet member you speak of was the lucky or unlucky person who got control of your fleet and isn't to blame. That person can reinstate you to full leadership after the two week timer expires.

    As a fellow fleet leader of about 3 1/2 years, my advice is to talk to this guy to see what his intentions are then plan accordingly. I'd say given the fact that he contacted you means he's not going to be a **** about this, so calm down.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    startrekron wrote: »
    Once you take leadership of the fleet you must log on with any one of your characters of the highest rank once every 30 days or the first person of the next highest rank to log in is given control of the fleet. The fleet member you speak of was the lucky or unlucky person who got control of your fleet and isn't to blame. That person can reinstate you to full leadership after the two week timer expires.

    As a fellow fleet leader of about 3 1/2 years, my advice is to talk to this guy to see what his intentions are then plan accordingly. I'd say given the fact that he contacted you means he's not going to be a **** about this, so calm down.

    If the op is on a two week cooldown timer that means that the new guy is actively trying to demote him, so I doubt talking is gonna help. To be honest I hope he doesn't get reinstated. Better he learns his lesson.
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  • startrekronstartrekron Member Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    peetapipmac wrote: »
    If the op is on a two week cooldown timer that means that the new guy is actively trying to demote him, so I doubt talking is gonna help. To be honest I hope he doesn't get reinstated. Better he learns his lesson.

    No I think once someone else gets the fleet the previous fleet leader is put on the 2 week cooldown. If the new leader was trying to steal the fleet he wouldn't be dumb enough to let the OP know BEFORE the timer was up, by the way the is quite obvious.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    startrekron wrote: »
    No I think once someone else gets the fleet the previous fleet leader is put on the 2 week cooldown.


    It doesn't. I've taken over a fleet from an inactive leader since the new system came in. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.
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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    One more reason why "fleet up with strangers" is not a viable solution for small fleets running up against the massive barrier of project costs.
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  • cincyman39cincyman39 Member Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    As a fleet leader you should have never gone mia. That fleet member did nothing wrong you were gone he took command and decided to demote you. The system is in plce for a reason and your seeing it.

    I guess you think since you founded that fleet that your members should come to a stand still on projects while you decide weather or not to log in sorry but the current system dont support your ideal.

    I think it was great he got a hold of you and let you know he took command that tells me he had no shady intentions. I say move on start another fleet you may have blown your trust with the current fleet but next time put forth a little more effort in logging on and i promise you it wont happen again.
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    hanover2 wrote: »
    One more reason why "fleet up with strangers" is not a viable solution for small fleets running up against the massive barrier of project costs.

    Only if you don't look after your fleet properly.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I find it interesting that the op hasn't commented since he started the thread. I'm sensing a habit.:rolleyes:
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  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I don't think this guy is cut out for fleet leadership, except maybe of a fleet that consists only of him.
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  • kiethblacklionkiethblacklion Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hmmm...Our fleet leader has gone a month or so without logging in but none of us have been given the option to take over...interesting that is built into the system.

    I do find it a bit harsh that everyone is jumping down this guy's throat. He didn't say he hadn't played for a few months because he wanted others to do the work. Its possible real life obligations distracted him from playing. I have gone months without playing due to college or family responsibilities.

    Obviously, this wasn't something he knew could happen (the system letting someone else take over). It seems to me that most of the replies came from fleet veterans and it appears to me that this guy isn't a vet when it comes to handling fleets. Maybe a little more understanding replies would be better instead of chastising him like he's some fleet bum.
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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    peetapipmac wrote: »
    Only if you don't look after your fleet properly.
    :rolleyes:
    Don't sell me the extra chore of babysitting strangers so they don't pillage my fleet as a benefit.

    I should not have to do that to access any part of the game content.
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    hanover2 wrote: »
    :rolleyes:
    Don't sell me the extra chore of babysitting strangers so they don't pillage my fleet as a benefit.

    I should not have to do that to access any part of the game content.


    You don't have to babysit anyone to effectively run a fleet. (even of strangers) Just make sure that you are logging in regularly and have decent system set up. It's not really that hard.
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  • jonpark020979jonpark020979 Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    After a long absence I was asked to take command of a old fleet I left over a year ago, by the new commanding officer. Once I was given command the former commanding officer started to complain about how we stole the fleet from him and now since he put the fleet in and this is his words stasis for when he decided to return and we made the move to remove him and reactivate the fleet can he go to cryptic and have the fleet disbanded? We followed all the "fleet removal rules" so as far as I am concerned we never stole anything from him.

    One other thing he pmed a member of the fleet and started to verbally insult her and berate her, what should I do about that as well.
  • fudgemonkfudgemonk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonpark020979 wrote: »

    One other thing he pmed a member of the fleet and started to verbally insult her and berate her, what should I do about that as well.

    put him on ignore.
  • jonpark020979jonpark020979 Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Already had them do that

    I just wanted to know if he could get the fleet disbanded even tho we followed the rules? He can't correct?
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  • jonpark020979jonpark020979 Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    So then it sounds like we did everything right and he has no case
  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonpark020979 wrote: »
    So then it sounds like we did everything right and he has no case

    That is correct. He hasn't a leg to stand on. The fleet is yours now, just let him fume by himself.
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    jonpark020979 wrote: »
    So then it sounds like we did everything right and he has no case

    Dont worry about it Cryptic will NOT do anything about what they call "Fleet Politics". Which is exactly what this is. The fleet is yours and he has no recourse to get it back (unless you invite him back), or to get it disbanded.
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