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Dat TBR DOff doe

praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
edited January 2014 in PvP Gameplay
I'm thinking of maybe coming back, seeing as how there's now a glimmer of hope that we'll get some more maps or something.

Before I do, though, I was wondering about that TBR DOff that switches it around so that it pulls rather than pushes. Any decent? Does it work well?

And on a side note, for the 6th DOff slot, do you have to have T5 Dyson Rep or is that a Fleet thing?
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  • caeloaeturnumcaeloaeturnum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    praxi5 wrote: »
    I'm thinking of maybe coming back, seeing as how there's now a glimmer of hope that we'll get some more maps or something.

    Before I do, though, I was wondering about that TBR DOff that switches it around so that it pulls rather than pushes. Any decent? Does it work well?

    And on a side note, for the 6th DOff slot, do you have to have T5 Dyson Rep or is that a Fleet thing?

    It's funny that you post this now. I just (30 minutes or so ago) got done seeing if it was worthwhile. From my understanding of the description it sounded like it would be 50% push and 50% pull, or no net movement. Boy was I wrong. I used it in CE and it pulled quite a few Tholians right on top of me. I removed it ASAP. I was thinking of using it, plus a photonic shockwave for a nice combo, but I'm still undecided. So in short, it works very well at pulling things very close to you.
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    caeloaeturnum wrote: »
    It's funny that you post this now. I just (30 minutes or so ago) got done seeing if it was worthwhile. From my understanding of the description it sounded like it would be 50% push and 50% pull, or no net movement. Boy was I wrong. I used it in CE and it pulled quite a few Tholians right on top of me. I removed it ASAP. I was thinking of using it, plus a photonic shockwave for a nice combo, but I'm still undecided. So in short, it works very well at pulling things very close to you.

    I'm planning on pairing it with GW3 and EWP.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    the doff is awesome. its practically a brand new station power. perfect if all you want to do is deal damage with it, and for a hold seems to work better then a normal TB some times. unless your ships real big and as it pulls them up against you, it pulls them out of your cannon arc. helps to be reversing wile using it.

    or vacuuming people into an EWP your laying as well. it essentially guaranties anyone within 5 of you is gonna get stuck in it.


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  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    the doff is awesome. its practically a brand new station power. perfect if all you want to do is deal damage with it, and for a hold seems to work better then a normal TB some times. unless your ships real big and as it pulls them up against you, it pulls them out of your cannon arc. helps to be reversing wile using it.

    or vacuuming people into an EWP your laying as well. it essentially guaranties anyone within 5 of you is gonna get stuck in it.


    6th doff is from the spire fleet holding

    This. It absolutely burns hull, and turns you into a mobile grav well. I use it all the time in PvP. It's splendid for yanking people out of arc, into hazards, etc.
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  • ankokunekoankokuneko Member Posts: 318 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    or you can use a 300 particle gen sci ship and 0 in graviton and have the tractor beam version of FAW
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  • pokersmith1pokersmith1 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Both my kdf and fed sci uses it. It's a little bit more effective in fed toon since it got 5 sci console vesta, but either way it's awesome on both toons.
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  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ankokuneko wrote: »
    or you can use a 300 particle gen sci ship and 0 in graviton and have the tractor beam version of FAW

    Hah, that's kind of funny actually. Aux to Batt, high PartGens and maybe Tac Buffs for an even better FAW.
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Praxi!

    Just to fix something: TBR DOFF does turn that into a pull instead of a push, but only at 50% effectiveness. Still awesome though to drag people around.

    Also, science ships are gonna get a boost soon with secondary deflectors. It'll only be on one ship (per faction) to start, but that is being added this week to at least get put into the game.
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  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    From what I have seen playing around with it the best use is with eject warp plasma.

    Yes as the first response mentioned its not going to be a good idea in Crystaline entity. It does work alright in Infected STF with GW and Eject Warp plasma on ships that can do that. Just get some speed up and drag NPCS in.

    PvP wise its a mixed bag. DONT is right about the dmg you will get the dmg up as you won't push people away as often. However it is sometimes a massive liability. Pulling a couple high dmg escorts on top of you in a PvP match is a bad situation to be in. lol

    Its a fun doff and I think that pretty much sums it up. Sometimes better then none doffed version sometimes much worse... it does pretty much change the skill completely. Fun for what it is.
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  • pokersmith1pokersmith1 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ankokuneko wrote: »
    or you can use a 300 particle gen sci ship and 0 in graviton and have the tractor beam version of FAW

    It already is a sci version of FAW. Once scrambled, you are liable to pull your own teammates and allies into the silly EWP and GW goop. Always keep a copy of ST handy for such occasions :D
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  • rudiefix1rudiefix1 Member Posts: 420
    edited January 2014
    TBR pull + EWP + CPB + PSW + web mine spread + clustertorp
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    mimey2 wrote: »
    Praxi!

    Just to fix something: TBR DOFF does turn that into a pull instead of a push, but only at 50% effectiveness. Still awesome though to drag people around.

    Also, science ships are gonna get a boost soon with secondary deflectors. It'll only be on one ship (per faction) to start, but that is being added this week to at least get put into the game.

    Second Deflectors are not a myth!? That would be awesome, be it slightly OP, I fear.
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  • tmichctmichc Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Second Deflectors are not a myth!? That would be awesome, be it slightly OP, I fear.

    Nope, they're not a myth. I refer you to the following screenshot:

    4th Anniversary Sci/Tac Ship (from the 'ship-builder' blog)

    They could be OP, but we will see.

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    Edit: By the looks of it, those Dyson tac/sci ships come with a 3-piece set of deflector, cannons and Sing/Warp core... Could be interesting, depending on set boni.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I just want to say that that DOff makes flying this ship in Ker'rat a hell of a lot of fun. :cool:
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Getting dragged all over the place gets... tiresome
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I love this doff. It's brought new life to my old nebula and science odyssey. Pack on one or more Dyson science consoles and it can do some crazy good damage. I even put a chronoton torpedo in the back so I can TS anyone with high ID.

    Before you all laugh at the Science Odyssey thing...It's great for pug matches because I can have CC with GW, TBR and EWP. I can sport some team heals, and I can be tanky myself in addition to having the cruiser commands.


    Just remember, APO makes one immune to the pull and PH makes one immune to the pull and damage so timing is really important. It also can only pull 3 objects, so spam can make it totally useless. Also, it tries to pull on dead ships too, even photonic ones, which can be really annoying. So for me, in my science ships, I just PH or if that's on CD I use an engine battery and use Photonic Fleet so the TBR grabs them instead of me.
  • antoniosalieriantoniosalieri Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    rmy1081 wrote: »
    Also, it tries to pull on dead ships too, even photonic ones, which can be really annoying.

    Watched someone pull 3 or 4 exploding voth ships onto themselves the other day and die... it was amusing.
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  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    antoniosalieri wrote: »
    From what I have seen playing around with it the best use is with eject warp plasma.

    Yes as the first response mentioned its not going to be a good idea in Crystaline entity. It does work alright in Infected STF with GW and Eject Warp plasma on ships that can do that. Just get some speed up and drag NPCS in.

    PvP wise its a mixed bag. DONT is right about the dmg you will get the dmg up as you won't push people away as often. However it is sometimes a massive liability. Pulling a couple high dmg escorts on top of you in a PvP match is a bad situation to be in. lol

    Its a fun doff and I think that pretty much sums it up. Sometimes better then none doffed version sometimes much worse... it does pretty much change the skill completely. Fun for what it is.

    Hate to say it, but probably better w/Theta, and AMS (& w/e evil mines you want). For example:

    TR3, VM1 (after Theta kills crew), AMS (the placate will keep them from shooting you), TBR2, ES1, followed up w/TB1 and SS1 to really annoy them. Toss in power debuff torp(s) and placate proc w/KHG shields to really annoy them. Don't forget those annoying web mines ... all kinds of disables/drains/placates/scrambles. 3x tech doffs w/single aux2batt build to get those uptimes higher 1x grav, 1x vm, 1x tb. So um yeah ...
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    looks like I need to try an a2b particle gen vesta again, sounds like this doff is a perfect match for it. It will be able to use GW, TBR3, and EWP all at global, and might as well throw in iso charge for more fun.
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  • rmy1081rmy1081 Member Posts: 2,840 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    marc8219 wrote: »
    looks like I need to try an a2b particle gen vesta again, sounds like this doff is a perfect match for it. It will be able to use GW, TBR3, and EWP all at global, and might as well throw in iso charge for more fun.

    yeah it's pretty fun in a vesta. Using the push console with Doffed TBR is crazy funny.

    Speaking of which. That console is a good counter to Doffed TBR ;)
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